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daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:45 PM Apr 2015

Want to see some GOP heads explode? Barbara Lee for VP

Think about it.
East/West
Wall Street/Oakland
Elite/Populist
Puts a black woman next in line for Presidential succession.

I've never heard anyone field Barbara Lee's name before, but she has a lot of cred for voting the People's way around here. Perhaps she just lacks exposure to larger Stateswoman-making opportunities.

She could balance the ticket without making it look like Hillary needs a man.

Thoughts?

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Want to see some GOP heads explode? Barbara Lee for VP (Original Post) daredtowork Apr 2015 OP
Isnt she the lone vote against Patriot Act? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #1
I think so too daredtowork Apr 2015 #3
yep NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #5
I think it was the Iraq invasion that she voted against arcane1 Apr 2015 #4
No she voted against the use of force authorization csziggy Apr 2015 #9
And patriot act, right? this is from my link NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #10
She voted against the Patriot Act but she was not a lone vote against it csziggy Apr 2015 #11
OK, thanks NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #12
I'd rather see her run for the top spot, but I'd settle for VP! arcane1 Apr 2015 #2
While I would also prefer Lee over Hillary any day daredtowork Apr 2015 #14
They would never run a two-woman ticket NV Whino Apr 2015 #6
Perhaps daredtowork Apr 2015 #8
AGree, but in reality to win the WH a Latino male is likely NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #13
I also like Julian Castro daredtowork Apr 2015 #15
No, and that has been a big problem NV Whino Apr 2015 #16
Thank you for putting that marginality in kind/flattering terms daredtowork Apr 2015 #17
she is in my top 10 list gwheezie Apr 2015 #7
Bump - as alternative to mere Oligarchy Theater daredtowork Apr 2015 #18
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
4. I think it was the Iraq invasion that she voted against
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:49 PM
Apr 2015

Though she likely voted against that abominable Act too.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
9. No she voted against the use of force authorization
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:24 PM
Apr 2015

Lee is notable as the only member of either house of Congress to vote against the authorization of use of force following the September 11, 2001 attacks.

H J RES 64 YEA-AND-NAY 14-Sep-2001 11:17 PM
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.
NAYS 1 --- Lee
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll342.xml

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
11. She voted against the Patriot Act but she was not a lone vote against it
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:39 PM
Apr 2015

66 Democrats voted against the Patriot Bill, Lee among them.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll398.xml

Barbara Lee is noted for being the lone vote against the authorization of force bill and your first post in this sub-thread was about a lone vote against the Patriot Act.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
14. While I would also prefer Lee over Hillary any day
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:49 PM
Apr 2015

I could be reconciled to Hillary as the Democrat nominee if Barbara Lee was the VP pick AND she was assured of domestic policy-shaping influence/power and a mandate to undo the damage that the previous Clinton era wrought. A HUGE PUBLIC MANDATE to signal the poor will no longer be the easy scapegoats of politics, but rather the foundation stone in rebuilding American communities.

A two woman ticket can't succeed? How sexist is that? Why not? Hillary and Barbara Lee could prove that society has matured beyond that point - that we just skipped over the step where we could only tolerate one token woman at the top. Society has never rejected a ticket with 2 men on it.

Besides, these days a woman making it to the top is...meh. Two women would be something different: something epic: something worth fighting for.

Barbara Lee provides the social voice and, frankly, color, Hillary is missing. That's a perfectly balanced ticket. But if that was the ticket: two women, a Clinton, an authentic black progresive woman from California vs. Texas Oil Money, Lobbyists of the Super Rich, Ayn Rand Fanboys, TV Megachurch Ministers, and Tea Party Wingnuttery -- the next election could be as close as we ever get to WWIII without using nukes.

Kind of awesome if you think about it. Quick someone design the video game. :p

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
6. They would never run a two-woman ticket
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:54 PM
Apr 2015

We need her in the (now) House and (future—I'm hoping she takes DiFi's place, assuming that Dino ever retires) Senate.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
8. Perhaps
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:20 PM
Apr 2015

but this is also sounding like a "keep the woman in her place" line. We need more woman in the pipeline whi can ALSO be alternatives to Feinstein.

Have we ever kept a man back by saying "we need him in the House/Senate" like we did with Warren and now Lee? We needed tge luttle woman in the kitchen, too.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
15. I also like Julian Castro
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 08:02 PM
Apr 2015

But Barbara Lee has a wider range of experience, and just as holding up Hillary as the first (token) female President won't win the election, throwing in a Latin male won't win the "diversity" vote. In fact if he doesn't bring the right political stuff to the ticket, he will seem like yet another pathetic effort at "triangulation" engineered by pollsters and focus groups, ultimately withlut a soul.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
16. No, and that has been a big problem
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 08:11 PM
Apr 2015

Raiding the Senate to fill cabinet positions, or whatever. Frankly, we lost the Senate (and governors) because Obama raided it/them for cabinet positions. Most of those men and some women should have stayed in the house or senate or as governors.

I, personally, have no problem with a two-woman ticket, but I do not represent national demographics. This is called politics, where you play the odds and percentages; what will win and what will not. Like it or not, I (and it would seem) you, are marginal votes. In other words, they don't give a shit about us. They have to go with (as much as possible, and still satisfy the fringe) mainstream choices. Two women on the ticket is sensory overload for the mainstream.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
17. Thank you for putting that marginality in kind/flattering terms
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 08:45 PM
Apr 2015

I still wonder if the opposition to such an unexpexted, ostensibly unviable, yet undeniably powerful pairing might energize the campaign to fight for it. That's what took Hillary by surprise in 2008 -people fought for Obama.

People weren't going to fight for Third Way Hillary then, and they aren't now. Hillary's campaign is fueled by money. I'm willing to bet even Skinner's sudden appearance and endorsement has something to do with funding for DU. The amount of fake enthusiasm drummed up over the last 24 hours feels like the attack of the Pod People/Stepford Dems.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
7. she is in my top 10 list
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:07 PM
Apr 2015

To run for president. The 1st person I actually campaigned for was Shirley Chisholm. Shirley paved the way for strong women who take tough votes. I would love to see Lee on the ticket. She is one of the people I admire on congress and there ain't that many of them

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
18. Bump - as alternative to mere Oligarchy Theater
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:32 PM
Apr 2015

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