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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:25 AM Apr 2015

You will NEVER want to buy a bag of supermarket salad again: How migrant farmworkers are treated

How migrant farmworkers picking vegetables for major stores are treated like 'slaves' and live in filthy conditions

* Salads sold in UK are grown by workers 'denied basic hygiene facilities'

* Employees use bushes near where vegetables are being grown as toilets

* Some live in filthy shacks made of wood and plastic sheeting near fields

* Claim to be sprayed with pesticides and be left unpaid for hours worked


Mistreatment allegations: Workers picking food for Agroherni in Spain which supplies top UK supermarkets



The revelations will horrify millions of customers of British supermarkets, all of which tell consumers their food is produced ethically and that workers are treated fairly.

A firm that supplies salad and vegetables to Marks & Spencer, Waitrose, Sainsbury’s, Tesco and Asda is among those accused of using mistreated workers. Some workers say they have developed horrific sinus conditions and bronchitis as a result of being sprayed with the pesticides while producing the vegetables in the fields of Murcia.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3039046/Read-never-buy-bag-supermarket-salad-farmworkers-treated-like-slaves-live-filthy-conditions-major-stores-promise-inquiry.html
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You will NEVER want to buy a bag of supermarket salad again: How migrant farmworkers are treated (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
Thanks for sharing. mylye2222 Apr 2015 #1
De rien, ma chère. Comment va ? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #3
crap. Does this apply to organic brands carried in the supermarket? merrily Apr 2015 #2
Personally, I'm not at all sure that the 'BIO' label Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #4
Thanks. At some point, someone needs to make a list of what I can eat that is healthy and merrily Apr 2015 #5
You know, I'm just about at that point... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #6
I talked big, or keyboarded big, but the truth is, I would have a very hard time merrily Apr 2015 #7
OK, I'll admit it. I sometimes hanker after Fritos. Can't get them over here in France, so have to Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #8
Does Amazon ship to France? merrily Apr 2015 #9
Prohibitively expensive. LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #10
Maybe one bag, as a special treat for your birthday. merrily Apr 2015 #11
Long wait...that's next November! LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #12
Here is Earthbound Farms promo video GreatGazoo Apr 2015 #28
Where is a Chavez anymore? merrily Apr 2015 #35
I don't buy bagged salds to start with and migrant workers have been screwed for years. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #13
I prefer not to, but sometimes it IS a time saver. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #16
And as soon as it sits on the shelf too long, the grocery store throws it out. Quantess Apr 2015 #14
Egregious, flagrant waste. Agree. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #15
It really is all about capitalism. Quantess Apr 2015 #18
^^^AMEN to this^^^ Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #20
"Capitalism results in exploitation and waste" handmade34 Apr 2015 #32
I HAVE NEVER been able to eat this crap onecent Apr 2015 #17
Whether chopped up and bagged or sold whole, the labor Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #19
Thanks for posting! Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #21
You got it, Steve my friend! I was hoping you'd happen on this. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #22
Send me a PM anytime about a post Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #23
Will do, now that you've given me 'permission'. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #24
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #25
This is medieval. Crapping in the fields where they stand? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #26
Food co-ops, farmer's markets - LOCAL FOOD gollygee Apr 2015 #27
Unfortunately, farmer's markets are not springing up Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #29
Did you see that I live in Michigan gollygee Apr 2015 #33
Unfortunately, co-ops are few and far between here, and are prohibitively expensive... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #34
Boston has farmer's markets from May to November. merrily Apr 2015 #36
There seems to be something political going on. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #38
If a brand bought only from farms that treated their workers well greymattermom Apr 2015 #30
You and many of us, greymattermom. Just like I buy Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #31
We've taken to growing our own salad greens and herbs hydroponically in our basement. woodsprite Apr 2015 #37
I rent a 50² meter (150 ft.~) flat on the 4th floor! LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #39
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
3. De rien, ma chère. Comment va ?
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:33 AM
Apr 2015

De l'escalvage moderne ? Je dirais plutôt médiévale ! Et, c'est la même scandale in France.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. crap. Does this apply to organic brands carried in the supermarket?
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:30 AM
Apr 2015

(Sorry if the article says that, but I am way too tired right now to read it.)

Between palm oil and pesticides and carcinogenic chemical additives and and and, organic salad mix is one of the few things I enjoyed that I felt fine about from both a health standpoint and an environmental standpoint.


 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. Personally, I'm not at all sure that the 'BIO' label
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:35 AM
Apr 2015

(as organics are called in France) guarantees that these practices aren't going on.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. Thanks. At some point, someone needs to make a list of what I can eat that is healthy and
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:13 AM
Apr 2015

environmentally friendly and socially responsible. Someone who specializes is that kind of thing, as part of what they do for a living or an extensive hobby.

Even a cantaloupe can be contaminated. Otherwise, people might just finally throw up their hands and eat whatever they feel like eating.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. You know, I'm just about at that point...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:17 AM
Apr 2015

of throwing up my hands and 'eating whatever I feel like eating.'

Within reason and with moderation, of course! LOL!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. I talked big, or keyboarded big, but the truth is, I would have a very hard time
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:29 AM
Apr 2015

going back to foods that list one potentially carcinogenic chemical after another on the ingredient list. Even when I make up my mind I am going to grab a bag of Fritos for once, something stops me.

Maybe today.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. OK, I'll admit it. I sometimes hanker after Fritos. Can't get them over here in France, so have to
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:31 AM
Apr 2015

settle for second best! LOL!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
10. Prohibitively expensive. LOL!
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:39 AM
Apr 2015

I don't need them THAT much! Nor does my blood pressure (beaucoup salt).

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
28. Here is Earthbound Farms promo video
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:07 AM
Apr 2015

To be organic and GAP ("Good Agricultural Practices&quot certified employees must have access to PortaJohns and hand washing. Preventing cross contamination is a huge priority for produce that will be consumed uncooked.



I used to live near lettuce fields in California. Many workers sleep in their cars or in seasonal shacks. For weeding they get paid by the hour. For harvesting things like oranges or grapes, they get paid by the pound with paper tickets then they trade those tickets for cash at the end of the shift.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
35. Where is a Chavez anymore?
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:36 AM
Apr 2015

People worry about lack of empathy. Having your heart break for someone you never met and can't help hurts so damned much. I wish I could give some of mind to someone who needs some.

PS I was buying Nature's Promise.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
16. I prefer not to, but sometimes it IS a time saver.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:02 AM
Apr 2015

And, yes, migrant workers have been screwed for decades, read centuries.

But, this newest scandal has just broken on British TV. It names and shames the growers, wholesalers, and retailers who claim that their practices are 'humane'.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
14. And as soon as it sits on the shelf too long, the grocery store throws it out.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:52 AM
Apr 2015

People should see what groocery stores throw away!
Fresh looking bags of salad flown in from thousands of miles away get thrown in the compactor, destroyed. Tons, every single day.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
18. It really is all about capitalism.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:36 AM
Apr 2015

Capitalism results in exploitation and waste. Exploit everything you can, throw it away if doesn't look nice enough to get full price for it, etc.

I am not completely against capitalism, but, I wish there were more laws regulating exploitation of workers and animals and the environment, and more incentives to donate leftovers to food banks.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
20. ^^^AMEN to this^^^
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:37 AM
Apr 2015
'I wish there were more laws regulating exploitation of workers and animals and the environment...'

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
32. "Capitalism results in exploitation and waste"
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:22 AM
Apr 2015

yes, but unlike you, I AM "against capitalism" because it "results in exploitation and waste" of the environment, of human energy, of human rights, of our health, of our land, etc,.........

onecent

(6,096 posts)
17. I HAVE NEVER been able to eat this crap
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:32 AM
Apr 2015

since it popped out in the stores...then when restaurants went to this crap, I would refuse the salads when they came to my table OBVIOUSLY bagged shit. Got alot of hateful looks from the waitresses..but people are lazy. When I pay for a salad at a restaurant I expect someone to clean, dice, slice and prepare not pour from a filthy bag.

Kick this up people need to be made aware of this.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
19. Whether chopped up and bagged or sold whole, the labor
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:36 AM
Apr 2015

practices are sadly the same.

You are almost as likely to get a case of salmonella from your whole head of romaine lettuce as from the bagged stuff.

They have to shit in the fields, for god's sake!

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
27. Food co-ops, farmer's markets - LOCAL FOOD
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:03 AM
Apr 2015

salad greens are even grown indoors here in Michigan- I can get local salad greens made by family farms year-round.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
29. Unfortunately, farmer's markets are not springing up
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:08 AM
Apr 2015

on every street corner here in Paris.

I have to get my green stuff at the local supermarket, which is supplied from Spain (and Italy).

Not everybody lives in temperate zones where food co-ops and farmer's markets are feasible.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
33. Did you see that I live in Michigan
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 09:14 AM
Apr 2015

Greens are often grown in greenhouses. Even here in Michigan when it's -17F we can get local salad greens. I don't know if you can get them where you are but they are often available in cold places even in the winter. I do most of my shopping at a local food co-op.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
34. Unfortunately, co-ops are few and far between here, and are prohibitively expensive...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 09:18 AM
Apr 2015

If I wanted to do my grocery shopping at one, I'd have to go all the way across Paris.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
36. Boston has farmer's markets from May to November.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:43 AM
Apr 2015

And, as you know, there is the possibility of an indoor market.

If there are none, given how the French love fresh food, the first markets are likely to do very well financially.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
38. There seems to be something political going on.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:48 AM
Apr 2015

The traditional 'street markets' sell 'fresh produce', but you can never be sure of the 'provenance'. Who actually picked the stuff?

And the 'BIO' (organic) stalls are just too costly for my budget.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
30. If a brand bought only from farms that treated their workers well
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:09 AM
Apr 2015

and advertised it, I would buy it. I'd pay more. Locals can easily verify things with cell phone cameras, so it's easy to check up on them. It would be the costco of salad. Thinking of that, does costco buy salad from suppliers like this?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
31. You and many of us, greymattermom. Just like I buy
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:15 AM
Apr 2015

only free-range eggs now.

I live in France, so I can't tell you anything about Costco, I'm afraid.

woodsprite

(11,913 posts)
37. We've taken to growing our own salad greens and herbs hydroponically in our basement.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 10:47 AM
Apr 2015

We have 3 tiers on our stand, taking up 2' x 4' of floor space. So far, it's been enough for a family of 4, rotating harvest so we have daily greens available. Kinda cool!

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