Confused Hillary accidently utters line from Goldman Sachs speech while speaking in public.

[Scuba]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/hillary-clinton-iowa-campaign-trail-policy-agenda-117005.html#ixzz3XT0hi2Bh

“Slowly over time, it’s become more difficult, more expensive, more red tape, unnecessary regulation that has put a damper” on economic growth, she said.

[Renew Deal]

1. Please post the speech you are referring to

[jtuck004]

18. Speech? More like Jamie Dimon's lifestyle, the thieving bastard. n/t

[tridim]

2. C'mon, she's just concerned about her son-in-law's hedge fund.

Typical stuff, everybody does it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. So you countenance lying?

Typical stuff, everybody does it.

[tridim]

5. Uhm, no.

What are you talking about?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. The Original Poster falsely claimed that Hillary Clinton was quoting Goldman Sachs, ergo:

Confused Hillary accidently utters line from Goldman Sachs speech while speaking in public.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/hillary-clinton-iowa-campaign-trail-policy-agenda-117005.html#ixzz3XT0hi2Bh

“Slowly over time, it’s become more difficult, more expensive, more red tape, unnecessary regulation that has put a damper” on economic growth, she said.

RenewDeal pointed out his or her prevarication(s)



Lying about one's opponents is a very bad look, very bad...

[SidDithers]

10. The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary...

and neither minds making shit up to try to make her look bad.

Sid

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. I find lying about people , be they private or public persons, patently offensive...

I find lying about people , be they private or public persons, patently offensive, and it is incumbent upon me to call it out, regardless of the source or target.

[Scuba]

19. What lie?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. Let's do this slowly...

Confused Hillary accidently utters line from Goldman Sachs speech while speaking in public.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/hillary-clinton-iowa-campaign-trail-policy-agenda-117005.html#ixzz3XT0hi2Bh

“Slowly over time, it’s become more difficult, more expensive, more red tape, unnecessary regulation that has put a damper” on economic growth, she said.

-Scuba

I googled the entire line:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%E2%80%9CSlowly+over+time%2C+it%E2%80%99s+become+more+difficult%2C+more+expensive%2C+more+red+tape%2C+unnecessary+regulation+that+has+put+a+damper%E2%80%9D+on+economic+growth%2C+she+said.&oq=%E2%80%9CSlowly+over+time%2C+it%E2%80%99s+become+more+difficult%2C+more+expensive%2C+more+red+tape%2C+unnecessary+regulation+that+has+put+a+damper%E2%80%9D+on+economic+growth%2C+she+said.&aqs=chrome.0.69i59.1682j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

Where is the citation that she is quoting, or uttering lines from Goldman Sachs?

[Scuba]

30. The line would have been in Hillary's speech to Goldman Sachs, which was of course not public.

Your inability to get satire does not make me a liar.

[SidDithers]

38. Ah, the old "I was only joking" fall back...

Weak sauce.

Sid

[pipoman]

45. scuba and I haven't agreed on a lot of things

And while a bit ambiguous, I took it as satire, that l I NE sounds as if it could have been in Hilary's speech to one of the corporate partners on Wall Street....

[Orsino]

49. Come on, dude. This is deflection.

A line like that is calculated to please vulture capitalists. The OP is spot on in identifying this as a right-wing pander.

If Clinton had not actually said those same words in a more private address to Goldman-Sachs, that's irrelevant to the point being made. The quote seems an inexcusable lapse, if our future nominee is really running on, for instance, fighting inequality.

Please don't call the OP a lie, because it isn't.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. So you are clairvoyant?

What's the numbers for Powerball?

[maddiemom]

52. I've TAUGHT satire...

And I don't "get" this "fake headline" as satire.

[Scuba]

54. You may have taught satire, but you haven't learned it.

[H2O Man]

62. I've taught intuition.

It's satire. And obviously so.

[maddiemom]

87. UH...Misleading, more mean-spirited (although, yes, much satire comes from mean spiritedness) but

still should be FUNNY. Most Importantly, you're taking off from no real point of reference. You came out with a completely out of context "headline." Thus the first puzzled questions as to what you were referring. Satire must spring from some CONTEXT(or maybe you could explain the context to me). This is why it isn't funny or timely, only mean-spirited. OF COURSE (as Cenk would say) I enjoyed your defenders below, agreeing with your sentiment, but clueless as to what defines satire (or perhaps El Rushbo is the greatest satirist of our time)!

[Historic NY]

69. Your forgot the "thingy" in your zeal to critique

[GoneFishin]

77. I took it as satire. This quote sounds like pandering to people who make more money when

there are no pesky regulations to abide by.

I guess it could also be a speech by a lobbyist for Goldman Sachs.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

78. Some of us got it, Scuba.

[daleanime]

17. So any/all concerns, worries, distrust....

is simply hatred?



I'm so relieved.

[SidDithers]

21. Is that what I said?..nt

Sid

[daleanime]

22. It was a question....

right? Does that mean the answer is no?

[SidDithers]

24. LOL. That wasn't a question...

It was an attempt to attribute something to me which I hadn't said.

At least be honest about your intent.

Sid

[daleanime]

28. So that wasn't my reaction to your post?

Good thing I have people like you around to tell me what I'm really thinking.



Please take your own advise. Have a good day.

[SidDithers]

35. If you want to ask me a question, ask an honest question...

the "So you ..." debate tactic is so worn and dishonest that it's laughable on its face.

Sid

[daleanime]

88. "Do you really believe that any comment that isn't positive....

results from hatred?"

"Must any questions addressed to you be approved by you in order to receive an answer?"


"What's with all the projection?"


Remember, please feel free to insult me in any fashion you like. As if you need permission. But once your done, try answering the questions. You might find that kind of honesty refreshing. After all you've called me dishonest twice now, it would seem that you value honesty in some fashion.

If you didn't you wouldn't have used that as an insult, right?

[SidDithers]

89. " So any/all concerns, worries, distrust.... is simply hatred? "...

That was your original "question", which truly wasn't a question at all.

That's how you started this subthread. You made an assumption and tried to deliberately misinterpret what I'd said.

If you'd been honest from the beginning, perhaps we could have had a discussion.

But you weren't.

So we won't.

Sid

[daleanime]

90. In post #24 you said that wasn't a question....

but now it is? I'm afraid that's the only honest answer, in fact the only answer, you've given is that we won't have a discussion. That I can agree with. As to the question of my 'honesty', I always consider the source.

[druidity33]

96. Sid never answers anything

in more than 7 words... and an emoticon or two. Expect nothing more and you won't be disappointed!

[daleanime]

97. I noticed....

plenty of responses, no answers.


I should know better. But I think it's best not to change yourself because of others.

[tridim]

32. I'm neither, I am a Democrat and I don't hate anyone.

I made up zero shit to try to make her look bad. I responded to a quote.

Do you deny that her son-in-law is a hedge fund manager funded by the same TBTF financial institutions that fund her campaign?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. As we get further away from the quote falsely attributed to Secretary Of State Clinton

Do you deny that her son-in-law is a hedge fund manager funded by the same TBTF financial institutions that fund her campaign?

Maybe you should embrace Scuba's approach; just accuse your interlocutors of not being able to decipher lies, errrrrr, satire.

[pipoman]

42. I would change "fringe left" to "center left"...just for accuracy...

[SidDithers]

47. No, I think the statement is accurate as is...nt

Sid

[bvar22]

95. Some members here brand anything even slightly to the Left of Reagan....

.... to be "Fringe Left".
That tells us more about where he sits on the political spectrum than anything else.

[YOHABLO]

105. Oh hell, center left is now repubican lite. I'm a Social Dem, I guess that just makes me left.

If I am ''fringe'' then there's a lot of us ''fringe'' out here.

[imthevicar]

50. and the older

Liberal Left Find her.........Distasteful? no, Bugger that! we hate her too.

[SidDithers]

51. At least you're honest...nt

Sid

[customerserviceguy]

106. And the adoring masses

that will go to the polls in November, 2016, to "be a part of history, in electing the first woman President" don't care what either group thinks or says about her.

Yes, she's inevitable, and no, I don't have to like it, just live with it, and its consequences. All we can do is hope that the Repukes figure out that Jebbie is their only survivor, gets the nomination, and the Repuke turnout in 2016 won't keep the House and the Senate GOP.

If we have at least one house of Congress go our way, and I sure don't expect any Hillary coattails, then we've got a chance to deal with her first two years. If not, then I shudder to think of the compromises she'll have to make with the Rethugs to have something to run on again in 2020.

By that point in time, she won't have that "being part of history" thing going for her anymore.

[still_one]

13. Anything coming from Politico should be taken with a large grain of salt.

[tridim]

25. The quote is a direct quote from Senator Clinton.

???

The people who fund Hillary's son-in-law's hedge fund are the same people who fund her campaign. Including Lloyd C. Blankfein from Goldman Sachs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/business/dealbook/for-clintons-a-hedge-fund-in-the-family.html

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. Was she or was she not quoting Goldman Sachs

???

[tridim]

33. Don't care.

I responded to the direct quote from her mouth.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. Well, that's a huge difference than saying she is quoting Goldman Sachs...

Well, that's a huge difference than saying she is quoting Goldman Sachs when it is empirically obvious she wasn't , don't you think?

[Scuba]

56. Only you suggested she is quoting Goldman Sachs.

A "Goldman Sachs speach" is one she gave to Goldman Sachs.

[ieoeja]

75. I assume Clinton supporters are only pretending to be stupid.

Because they could not possibly be as stupid as they have pretended to be in this sub-thread.

I have seen that tactic used many times on political discussion boards. And I have never understood it. "I know pretending to misunderstand something obvious will destroy my credibility in future discussions, but it's worth it to deflect this thread for a brief moment."

[Scuba]

86. It's disruption.

[AllyCat]

76. In what context would this statement from her be a GOOD thing

For the rest of us? Does it really matter if it was from a speech to Goldman Sachs, Iowa, the clown car? No. The quote as it stands is alarming.

[AllyCat]

73. Uh, I think it was onion-style wording, not lying.

If a Democrat says a line like that, those of us who espouse Democratic values get concerned that maybe she was speaking to a group of Wall-Streeters. Not lying, just trying to make a funny out of something very sad.

[leftofcool]

3. How dare she believe that small businesses should get the same breaks as big ones!

[aspirant]

8. How dare she believe

the people's bankruptcy laws should get the same breaks as corporate bankruptcy laws.

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. and she said that?

[aspirant]

36. Did I put them in quotation marks?

Or maybe just following her unnecessary regulation belief just like post#3, what do you think?

[VanillaRhapsody]

37. so the answer is...NO she didn't

thanks for playing...

[aspirant]

46. So the answer is Yes she did

Personal bankruptcy laws have unnecessary regulations that corporate doesn't.

Thanks for your corporate twist.

Oh by the way we have unfinished business, you running away and hiding from the question.

Would you risk your life on a poll, estimate and/or guess?

[Savannahmann]

55. Better, she voted for it as a Senator.

Here's the NY Times report of it as an issue during the campaign for the 2008 Nomination.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/clinton-and-the-bankruptcy-law/?_r=0

At the Democratic debate last night, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said that she “fought the banks” on bankruptcy overhaul. She made the statement as part of her defense for taking campaign contributions from lobbyists and special interests.

Actually, Mrs. Clinton has a mixed record on the bankruptcy bill, which wended its way through Congress over the course of several years, and on fighting the banks, which are a major constituency and major source of campaign contributions in New York.

The bankruptcy legislation was sought by banks and credit card companies, which wanted to make it harder for consumers to use the bankruptcy laws to walk away from their debts.

As first lady, Mrs. Clinton worked against the bill. She helped kill one version of it, then another version passed, which her husband vetoed. As a senator, in 2001, she voted for it, but it did not pass. When it came up again in 2005, she missed the vote because her husband was in the hospital, although she indicated she would have opposed it.

So the one time she's really on record, as a Senator voting on the legislation, she voted for Bankruptcy Reform that screwed the average citizen but protected the banksters.

Here's some more discussion on ^M^E.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/why-hillary-clinton-shoul_b_4293469.html

Hillary Clinton was planning to run for the Presidency in 2008 and she wanted to have Wall Street's backing. 17 Democratic Senators voted outright in favor of this Republican legislation, in order to be able to raise enough campaign cash from the banksters so as to retain their Senate seats. The Democratic 2008 Presidential contenders Senators Chris Dodd and Barack Obama, unlike Senator Hillary Clinton, voted against this Republican bill. Senator Joe Biden was amongst the 17 Democratic whores who voted in favor of it, and this alone should have disqualified him from consideration to become the Democratic Presidential nominee, except that he virtually had to vote for it because he represented Delaware and thus relied especially heavily on credit card companies to finance his campaigns.

I'm sorry if the truth kind of snuck up on you there. Just give it a day and soon you'll forget the ^Truth.

[ND-Dem]

108. thanks for paying attention to the record. it helps cut through the rhetoric.

[BreakfastClub]

7. Obama said it too...

"We're also getting rid of absurd and unnecessary paperwork requirements that waste time and money. We're looking at the system as a whole to make sure we avoid excessive, inconsistent and redundant regulation. And finally, today I am directing federal agencies to do more to account for—and reduce—the burdens regulations may place on small businesses. Small firms drive growth and create most new jobs in this country. We need to make sure nothing stands in their way. "

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703396604576088272112103698

[HereSince1628]

9. IMO small town small business is more threatened by WalMart & Big boxes

of corporate franchises than by red-tape.

She's just repeated a popular meme. Granted it's a meme that avoids a significant problem for small town economies and small town vitality.

But it's a meme that has play among the economic conservative leaning residents of small towns and rural landscapes where the benefits of government go unheralded and the 'impositions' from far and distant bureaucracies are noticed.

The listening campaign of our cH>ampion is going to repeat what's heard.

I suspect we ought to pay attention to track how often these things are consistent with the interests of the folks who're paying for the campaign.

[Enthusiast]

40. +1! Thank you.

[KoKo]

82. ...!

.

[still_one]

11. No offense, but politico, made up of ex-reagan repukes who go out of their way to disparage anything

related to a Democrat.

What does the last paragraph even mean:

"During the roundtable, however, she was looser. She seemed to get a kick out of Bryce Smith, a recent college graduate who purchased the bowling alley he worked at growing up. Before she left, she asked him what the alley’s hours were.
“I’m going to be in Iowa a lot,” she said."

"She is a looser"?????

The author, Annie Karni used to work for the NY Daily News. You know the paper that endorsed Romney over Obama.

In other words, I don't trust politico.

http://www.salon.com/2007/05/04/politico_funding/

Note that Salon article is by Glen Greenwald

[Scuba]

14. "Looser" as in "more relaxed."

[still_one]

15. I read it wrong, thanks. I read it as loser.

[randome]

20. It's still a poorly constructed paragraph.

"...worked at growing up..." ? Lack of editing skills, I suppose.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.[/center][/font][hr]

[still_one]

23. yeah, but I should have read it more carefully. I don't think even an anti-Hillary article would be

so blatant

[Fla Dem]

48. Agree, Politico is definitely a RW leaning tool. nt

[JaneyVee]

16. There are alot of unnecessary red tape on small biz...

I know a lot of small biz owners in NY who are friends and they don't mind the obvious regulations, but the red tape to get something done is sometimes nightmarishly slow.

[Atman]

41. The solution isn't necessarily elimination of the "red tape."

For instance, maybe you're starting a manufacturing business in an old warehouse alongside a river. I live in New England, we have lots of old converted mill buildings with discharge pipes which run straight into local streams and rivers. So someone buying the building might have to deal with "red tape" to prove that his business will not be discharging hazardous waste via the pipes. PIA, "Heck no! I wouldn't do that!" But how do know for sure? Inspections, impact statements, business procedures. "Red tape." Slows things down, and I'm sure the guy just wants to get his business up and running without all the paperwork and hassles.

So what is the solution? Eliminate all regulation and just trust the business? How has that worked out for us so far? Maybe a solution is to stop cutting taxes and eliminating the funds which pay for inspectors and paper pushers, make the process of regulation more efficient, not simply eliminate regulations and hope for the best.

[onenote]

26. Confused DUer thinks Democratic candidate will come out in favor of unnecessary regulation on small

businesses.

I guess we better impeach Obama.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/05/10/executive-order-identifying-and-reducing-regulatory-burdens

[NCTraveler]

44. I now know you are claiming your op is satire.

Because the fact is it is an excellent quote, with the limited context provided. I would watch calling a lady in her sixties confused. Kind of has a stench to it.

[HereSince1628]

65. Or it's a version of the old stand-by "you know, -that- is a rightwing meme"

so popular on DU.

H> is coming from a position regularly described as social moderate -economic conservative.

If there weren't overlap between her views on the interface between government and business with memes from economic conservatives on the republican side once in a while -THAT- would be remarkable.

Team H> is really the only dem campaign in the game, that places ALL attention of dems onto that campaign. That scrutiny is going to generate stories. Not all dems are social-liberal/economic conservatives. Team H> shouldn't expected nothing but favorable puff pieces.

Members of Team H> are going to need to learn to live with the attention given to their success or be driven to adrenal exhaustion well before the national convention.

[Thinkingabout]

53. You link an article without any reference to follow, like the kind of information I read in the

tabloids, do you have a valid link with references?

[PoliticAverse]

103. See the following DU post for context...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026514643

[cali]

57. I want, as someone who does not support Hillary, to dissassociate myself from your

OP.

I think it's shit stirring and bashing.

[Rex]

58. Did she mean Wall Street or small business enterprises?

Be honest here.

[mmonk]

60. Give us the answer if you have it.

[Rex]

61. Small biz, if you go to the link it says exactly who she is talking about.

However Scuba claims this is satire...which I admit goes right over my head at times.

[mmonk]

70. If she really means small business and not subsidiaries of large corporations, good for her.

Our current slow recovery problems nor the collapse in 2008 came from too much regulation or red tape though.

[whereisjustice]

59. Well, look at her, she's a shiny new conservative !

[MineralMan]

63. Bullshit. Here's a link to a DU thread about the context

of what she said. Do you have a problem with helping small businesses to prosper?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026514552

Go to the link above for that context and then consider self-deleting your post. That's my recommendation. This isn't satire, it's misrepresentation of a quote. Please don't do that.

[Orsino]

74. Excessive DEregulation is a much bigger problem.

Minus some context showing our candidate is aware of this, the quote sounds airheaded and inspired by Goldman-Sachs, as noted elsewhere.

I am hoping to be wrong about this.

[Sancho]

64. This OP is misleading...

Hillary was talking with people who own small businesses (at least that was what was shown on the TV).

It's not a comment aimed at Wall Street or capitalistic regulation.

She has noted that in international studies, the US was "46th" in friendliness to start businesses. I don't see any way to ascribe this to capital market controls and regulation in the given context.

The OP is Hillary bashing out of context in my opinion - just like FOX and other misleading reports do. Even though DUer's and many independents would love to see the 1% held accountable, that doesn't change the fact that we also need to support middle class jobs and businesses.

Just like us regular taxpayers, small businesses are not able to avoid and buy their way out of rules and regulations, so they suffer unfairly. The big corporations and their lobby get exemptions and exceptions and simply avoid the rules.

[Ms. Toad]

66. How about self-deleting.

I am NOT a fan of Hillary Clinton, but how about keeping the criticism honest and void of sexism, agism, etc.

I have not seen any sign that Clinton's mental agility is an issue, so making things up out of whole cloth to imply there is a problem is something better left to the folks at FR or CC.

If you just don't like her policies - have at it - but attack policy without the imaginary personal characteristics

[H2O Man]

68. Better yet, let's do

a good, old-fashioned "Civil Defense Drill"!!!!! Everyone -- QUICK!!!!! -- get under our desks!

Seek safety!

[Ms. Toad]

84. Satire has to be on point to be effective.

The April Fool's satire posted on DU about Hillary deciding not to run was on point directed at those of us who really hope for a different candidate. SNL satire of her announcement was on point against Hillary.

The objectionable part of the OP is not - it would have been on point against Reagan who was suffering from dementia and was confused (even though he managed to fool many people). Against Hillary it is just agism, because it is connected to age (generally), not age (as it is impacting her).

[H2O Man]

93. Interesting.

I disagree, to an extent.

Satire isn't "good" if: [a] no one gets it; or everyone gets it.

It is best if some get it, some don't, and of those who don't, some take it seriously.

Just my opinion, of course. I respect others' right to enjoy sarcasm that everyone/ no one gets.

[Ms. Toad]

99. It isn't whether anyone gets it or not that i'm addressing

it is whether person being satirized actually possesses that characteristic. If they don't, it isn't satire.

[H2O Man]

100. In that situation,

it would depend entirely if the reader(s) believed the person had that characteristic. Since different people might very well disagree, with one believing the person does not, would in no manner determine if it is satire or not.

[Ms. Toad]

102. So are you aware of rumors, concerns, reports, etc.

That Clinton is losing her mental faculties? That is what is at issue here. It is not a characteristic I have heard even opponents of Clinton attribute to her.

[H2O Man]

104. There will be

all types of horrible things said about Hillary Clinton during the next year and a half. And longer, if she's elected -- and there is a very good chance that she will be.

I don't listen to these things now, nor do I plan to in the future. But I am aware that, maybe a year or two ago, Karl Rove was sputtering nonsense about Ms. Clinton's "declining" intellectual ability. On Rove's brightest day, he couldn't hold a candle to Ms. Clinton intellectually. But, even more important, he is inferior ethically/morally.

The difference between Karl Rove and Hillary Clinton is the difference between shit and sugar.

[merrily]

67. According to a recent article, Wall Street is not worried about Hillary's populist speak.

They say they know it's 'just politics."

I however, do not know that Hillary's Wall Street speak is "just politics."

For once, I may agree with Wall Street.

[pnwmom]

71. Right, because true progressives just LOVE unnecessary red tape and regulation.

It's what we live and breathe! How dare HRC suggest reducing it!

[marmar]

72. accidentally on purpose

[Oilwellian]

79. Casting asparagus toward right wing Politico...

for reporting on Hillary's right wing comment, is entertaining stuff!

[WillTwain]

80. Obvious Satire, DU should have a laugh track like the Daily Show to clear up the confusion.

[Cryptoad]

81. Step right up.....

get your Stand with Rand signs while they last!...... already waxed up!

[L0oniX]

83. Truth?

[dreamnightwind]

107. Ha Ha

I saw Wavy Gravy last week, MC'ing a Crosby/Nash gig for a SEVA benefit, and he was recalling his involvement in the Nobody For President campaign awhile back (1976 election). I guess some gags never die out.

Wavy is Nobody's Fool.

http://www.nobodyforpresident.org/index2016.html

Nobody For President
Nobody tells the truth
Nobody is perfect
Nobody speaks for me
Nobody cares
Nobody will fix everything

We the Corporations, in Order to gain greater profit, establish our Justice, insure our domestic Tranquility, provide for our common defense, promote our general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for US and NOT the PEOPLE of the United States.

[LanternWaste]

85. Confused poster accidentally denies context to validate political bias.

Confused poster accidentally denies context to better validate own political biases.

[KamaAina]

91. The article does not mention Goldman Sachs.

[Bobbie Jo]

94. Correct

Because, "satire."

Or some such....

[daredtowork]

92. Hillary said the exact same thing to a bunch of Iowa small business owners

but tried to make it sound like populism.

She threw in stuff about "hard work" just so we all would know we were talking about the (white) employed "middle class", and not those (black) "welfare queens".

Third Way Hillary is Third Way.

[Doctor_J]

98. This is a stock line from every CATO/Heritage/AEI speech for 30 years

unnecessary regulation that has put a damper on economic growth, she said

But...Gay marriage!

[PoliticAverse]

101. Actually the line referred to the difficulty of starting businesses. See the following DU post...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026514643

American business startups and small business creation is down, and a survey by the World Bank found that the United States ranks 46th in the world for ease of starting a business, Clinton told the business leaders, as several dozen reporters and about a dozen invited guests listened nearby.

"We need to be, we have to be, No. 1 again," she said. "Slowly over time it's become more difficult — more expensive, more red tape, unnecessary regulations that have really put a damper."