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NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:41 PM Apr 2015

Someone who doesnt care about you or someone who HATES you, who do you want in WH?

I am reminded of George Carlin and his comment, in regard to ALL politicians:

"these people dont care about you"

It is true, for the most part.

Now, you DO have a choice, actually.

A politician who doesnt much care about you and one who kind of hates you.

Which do you choose, the one who wont overtly go out of their way to harm you or the one that will?

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Someone who doesnt care about you or someone who HATES you, who do you want in WH? (Original Post) NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 OP
Tired of those being the two choices. TDale313 Apr 2015 #1
But those are the choices NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #3
South Park described that choice as AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #4
OK, one will work day and night to destroy all progress of the last 100 yrs NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #9
Don't like my opinion? Get a better candidate. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #14
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #16
Bless your heart. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #22
Neither (nt) bigwillq Apr 2015 #2
so you believe that Bernie doesn't care about the people he fights for so passionately? cali Apr 2015 #5
I dont know why I would bother to even respond to you, but as I said elsewhere NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #7
He's not the only one and I know he'd tell Wall Street to fuck off cali Apr 2015 #8
Still havent answered the question, I see NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #10
I'm reluctant to engage with a question this silly and with such a transparent agenda cali Apr 2015 #21
loaded question. nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #6
Simple question but I can see why some wont answer it NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #11
no, it's a classic loaded question. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #13
So you think Hillary wants to destroy Soc Sec, medicare and MW laws and regulations? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #15
no, I'm saying Clinton is not obviously some sociopath who doesn't care about human beings geek tragedy Apr 2015 #18
Lowering expectations before primary season even begins. Classy. n/t winter is coming Apr 2015 #12
Neither. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #17
So the one who WONT destroy Soc Sec and medicare etc, doesnt deserve your time NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #19
The candidate I'll probably vote for won't destroy any of those. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #24
Why not write in Mickey Mouse or something, same result. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #26
Why don't you? Same results. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #30
I will support the Dem Tommy2Tone Apr 2015 #20
The SC is one of the main tools the cons will use to destroy ALL progress of the past 100 yrs NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #23
There is sufficient evidence to back up a Democrat and the SC Tommy2Tone Apr 2015 #31
It's clear you're not being serious. herding cats Apr 2015 #25
Really? So the right isnt dedicated to destroying ALL progress of the past 100yrs? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #27
I've made similar mistakes before cali Apr 2015 #29
a Democratic candidate is better than anyone the repugs will put up samsingh Apr 2015 #28

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
9. OK, one will work day and night to destroy all progress of the last 100 yrs
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:50 PM
Apr 2015

one wont

still no difference in your world?

REALLY?

Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #14)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. so you believe that Bernie doesn't care about the people he fights for so passionately?
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:46 PM
Apr 2015

interesting.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
7. I dont know why I would bother to even respond to you, but as I said elsewhere
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:48 PM
Apr 2015

he may be the only one who does.

But, I wonder what he would do if wall street came to him and said we can guarantee you the WH if you only bend a little here and there

who knows

and what if he doesnt, he wont go out of his way to cause harm

big difference

nor will Hillary

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. He's not the only one and I know he'd tell Wall Street to fuck off
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:50 PM
Apr 2015

He's my Senator. I know him. I've interacted with him both at his office in DC and at town meetings and pot lucks.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
10. Still havent answered the question, I see
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:52 PM
Apr 2015

Let's try again

One side will do everything in their power to reverse ALL progress of the last 100 yrs, including social security, medicare, MW laws and many many other things, like regulations of companies polluting our environment

The other wont

Which do you go out of your way to support?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. I'm reluctant to engage with a question this silly and with such a transparent agenda
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 07:00 PM
Apr 2015

I don't think there's anything sane about the question. I don't buy into it's premise. I've already said I'll vote for the dem nominee.

I think your op is really, really bizarre and creepy as all hell.

I trust I've made myself clear.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
11. Simple question but I can see why some wont answer it
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:53 PM
Apr 2015

These type of questions are designed to point out the LUNACY of saying you wont vote for the Democratic party if x, y or z are the candidate.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. no, it's a classic loaded question.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:55 PM
Apr 2015
A loaded question or complex question fallacy is a question which contains a controversial or unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt).[1]

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
15. So you think Hillary wants to destroy Soc Sec, medicare and MW laws and regulations?
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:55 PM
Apr 2015

Yes or no, or admit you dont know what you are talking about, please.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. no, I'm saying Clinton is not obviously some sociopath who doesn't care about human beings
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:59 PM
Apr 2015

she's got some beliefs that I take issue with (especially on foreign policy) and she's definitely a little too comfortable with the rich and powerful.

But, her record and life story is not that of someone who is indifferent to the suffering of others.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
19. So the one who WONT destroy Soc Sec and medicare etc, doesnt deserve your time
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:59 PM
Apr 2015

noted...hope it is noted by others as well

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
30. Why don't you? Same results.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 07:11 PM
Apr 2015

Unless you believe that your single vote will decide the election or the fate of the programs you mentioned.

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
20. I will support the Dem
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:59 PM
Apr 2015

If for no other reason than we can't take another Scalia, Roberts or Thomas on the SCOTUS.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
23. The SC is one of the main tools the cons will use to destroy ALL progress of the past 100 yrs
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 07:01 PM
Apr 2015

so you are paying attention, good

thanks

spread the word to those who dont seem to care about progress

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
31. There is sufficient evidence to back up a Democrat and the SC
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 07:28 PM
Apr 2015

Obama appoints > Sonya Sotomayor and Elena Kagan

Dubya Bush > John Roberts and Samuel Alito

Bill Clinton > Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg

Dubya Daddy > Clarence Thomas

Regan > Antonin Scalia and Anthony Kennedy

This is what happens when Dems vote for a Green Party candidate or refuse to vote because a particular Dem does not past some test. We get this. Ask Florida Dems if they would like a do-over on voting for Nader?

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
25. It's clear you're not being serious.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 07:05 PM
Apr 2015

Framing our choices as bad or worse? Yeah, that's gonna fly with political wonks.

FWIW I regret giving your "Why all of a sudden is it so important Hillary have competition within the party?" thread a serious answer now. You're just playing and I was too stupid to realize it at first.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
27. Really? So the right isnt dedicated to destroying ALL progress of the past 100yrs?
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 07:07 PM
Apr 2015

If the answer is yes, and it clearly is, then my framing couldnt be more important or accurate.

You see we can lose the WH to the right, it could happen.

samsingh

(17,601 posts)
28. a Democratic candidate is better than anyone the repugs will put up
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 07:07 PM
Apr 2015

I want Hillary, but I would vote for any of the other Democratic candidates.

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