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(41,977 posts)Ah well you can see where this is going
William769
(55,146 posts)They would have my respect. I may disagree with them but they would have it. At least they no matter how misguided, at least believe in something. People that cherry pick deserve no respect.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)I was horrified. If taken literally it's a long horror tale. some of the most oft quoted, beautiful passages, when put in context, are very disturbing.
I totally understand why people prefer to see it as largely allegorical.
Cheery picking moral judgments with it however, especially given how and why certain books were included, how certain passages referred to the religious politics of the time, how even interpretation of particular words is debatable, is reprehensible, and yeah I'll say it, evil.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)They had several different versions, various translations, and a number of annotated copies of the Bible. For a while, they would take the different versions and compare the same passage in each. It was interesting to listen to their discussions about what the variations meant. My parents were not particularly religious though Mom was brought up in a family with a lot of Baptist ministers in the family tree. They just liked to study different subjects over the years.
Part of their discussions included which books were included in the different versions - they included the King James version, the Koran, the Talmud and the Latter Day Saints versions in their collection as well as some of the alternate translations that were printed in the 1960s. But they also brought in versions of the excluded books and discussed them.
I think their dedication to trying to understand the foundation of their belief helped me define why I could NOT believe in Christianity! It also made my parents less reliant on other peoples' (including Mom's Baptist minister brother and their pastor) and more cynical about believing the Bible as a literal truth.
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)I am, like others before me, endlessly fascinated by the book of Job. I like to read books about the bible and religious texts--it's very compelling study.
murielm99
(30,736 posts)with the book of Job. It is an interesting allegory.
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)That got me started. He deliberately waited he was an old man to write it.
murielm99
(30,736 posts)and later reflected on it and reread it outside a formal setting.
He waited until he was old to write it? Now that I am old, I think I will read it. TY for the inspiration.
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)He's got the chutzpah to analyze the Old Testament God's evolution into the New Testament God. Good stuff.
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)When I was taking comparative linguistics in college, I read how things were mistranslated or misunderstood and given the number of times and languages the Bible has been translated/interpreted really makes things muddy. It is like an eons long game of "telephone."
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)It's crazy how much was twisted for political/religious purposes.
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)The fact there were "books" and passages 'left out' of the Bible, words altered to address the topics of the day (King James comes to mind), and just piss poor understanding of certain words and phrases. Just the very fact it was written by man (general) shows it's flaws!
murielm99
(30,736 posts)The many references to witchcraft were left in to not only to satisfy him, but to squelch whatever was left of paganism. Can you imagine little James growing up, being told over and over, that his mother was a witch and a whore? A lot of it had to do with her being Catholic.
Also, when I studied Old Testament prophets in college, I learned for the first time just how political the prophets of the Old Testament were. The king had his prophets. The temple had theirs. They were political advisors, and there were often factions within the community of prophets who were jockeying for power and at odds with each other. We didn't learn any of that in Sunday School!
jwirr
(39,215 posts)do not see any of it as allegories etc. Word for word and they get to interpret the word.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)William769
(55,146 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)Never heard the term "biblical marriage" in real life either.
William769
(55,146 posts)That one always get's them foaming at the mouth.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)William769
(55,146 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)Before David was King. It's should be one of the greatest love stories of all time-- but your literalists are strangely silent
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)...and YOU get a concubine! And YOU get a concubine! And YOU get a concubine!
That would be funny.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)The arrow is pointing to the right, it's red and her smile looks phony.
Don't get me started on her hairstyle!
William769
(55,146 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)Clearly, she is pandering to the environmentalists!
daleanime
(17,796 posts)but somehow I doubt it.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Obviously fake!
daleanime
(17,796 posts)need my hip waders for this one.
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephanie-mott/lgbt-what-does-it-really-mean_b_3971192.html
William~
Rex
(65,616 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)They use that story to hate gay people an awful lot, but they don't breathe a word about Lot and his daughters. Apparently, that is ok to them.
7962
(11,841 posts)The sign in the backround is bashing her for some reason
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)They are pointing out that one of her marriages lasted a few hours (days, I can't remember) and how is that "promoting the sanctity of marriage."
7962
(11,841 posts)She married a childhood friend in Vegas and the next day, after sobering up I suppose, got an annulment
napkinz
(17,199 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...done!
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Telling it like it is since the Immoral Minority crowd raised their self righteous banner.
William769
(55,146 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)It's spelled right and all. No problem there.
Something wrong with the bigoted jackalope that's holding it up though.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,957 posts)More the merrier I guess.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)remember which shoe goes on which foot in the morning?