Wisconsin Rep. Wants To Make Poor People Shop In Separate But Probably Not Equal Grocery Stores

[KamaAina]

Not The Onion!!

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/04/20/wisconsin-rep-wants-to-make-poor-people-shop-in-separate-but-probably-not-equal-grocery-stores/

Just in case poor people haven’t been shamed enough in our country, two Wisconsin Republicans want to make it so the poor have to 1. identify themselves as being poor, and 2. stay far far away from the non-poors.

Rep. Jesse Kremer (R) and Sen. Steve Nass (R) want food stamp recipients to show ID, and he wants them to have to shop in separate grocery stores.

The bill, he says is to eliminate waste and fraud. Having to show a photo ID seems reasonable, right? Well, not really. Many elderly and disabled people use food stamps and family members or others might do the grocery shopping for them.

Plus, only one card is issued per household and legally, every member of the household can use it. Kremer says that the bill would allow all members of the household to use it, but he doesn’t explain how a cashier would know who the members of the household are and what address to look for.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Let's make him shop there too. Bastard that he is! n/t

[daleanime]

3. Better, let's make him work there...

[guillaumeb]

2. Perhaps the poor could also be required to wear distinctive clothing as well?

[Katashi_itto]

13. Maybe triangles or something.

Makes for easier roundup later.

[guillaumeb]

15. great idea

and I am certain that a rich GOP contributor would be awarded the triangle franchise.

[Katashi_itto]

18. I figured that too.

[OregonBlue]

32. Or perhaps a tatoo of some sort on their hand or arm.

[sharp_stick]

4. Sounds good

I mean who hasn't heard of all those food stamp people using their cards to buy up all the filet mignon and lobster?

I can't tell you how often I've gone into my local "pricey foods" outlet only to find that I'm stuck with the shitty crab clusters because some food stamp user has taken all the king crab legs and rack of lamb. I'm tired of buying them all these cruises and shit too.

because someone just ain't gonna get it without the tag.

Fucking Republicans are just pathetic. Kramer and Nass deserve to be slapped around just for shits and giggles.

[HereSince1628]

11. And THEN they go out in the partking lot and load it into a cadilac!!!

It just makes me want to weep for Wisconsin.

[onethatcares]

19. not just a cadillac

it's always an Escalade with 22 inch wheels and a blaring stereo.



how old are these two asswipes that are proposing this? they must have been raised in a hateful enviroment.

[HereSince1628]

27. Hmm...by Jove I think you're RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

Nass is about 65

He's from Whitewater, WI. A university town that has undergone a bit of transition as it's Hispanic population has risen.

I can't imagine that he has much actual experience dealing with the minority poverty that he seem so intent on punishing.

My farm was about 10 miles away...in the Fall I could see the football stadium lights just above the horizon...Jefferson CO and Walworth CO are dominantly white. but full of myths and solutions based on myths about poor urban people.

[sharp_stick]

35. Absolutely n/t

[olddots]

5. beyond words

My hatred for these turd maggots .

[fredamae]

6. Segregating "everybody"

they hate is the "New 2016 GOP" Thang......

[SummerSnow]

23. W.E.H.A.T.E groups

[HereSince1628]

7. Government run pantries... that don't sell t-bones and lobster, I imagine.

I can't see how this will work efficiently. The distance between grocery stores is already pretty remarkable for rural Wisconsinites. I can easily imagine needing 50-75 mile round-trips to shop government pantries to capture a sufficient population to support a cost effective pantry that would likely have too little use to justify fresh foods.

[KamaAina]

9. Something tells me these cretins are thinking more about urban Wisconsinites

if you receive my drift.

[HereSince1628]

12. It's doubtful they aren't thinking about anything but screwing poor people.

This is what happens when free-range yeoman jealousy replaces a sense of community...the business of government becomes business and replaces the notion that serving the common good is the cornerstone upon which the founding fathers erected this government.

[jwirr]

10. Separate grocery stores? I bet the store chains are solidly behind this one.

[pipi_k]

28. I bet so too because

it would be a pretty good way for them to get rid of produce and other things that aren't quite good enough for the stores in a "better" area but not bad enough to totally scrap in the dumpsters.

I saw this in action with a local supermarket chain (that's now no longer in business...in this area, anyway).

One store in a small city/large town had the most beautiful fruits and vegies, always clean, well-lit, just a nice store.

Same store less than ten miles away in a "poorer" section of a larger city was just disgusting. They should have been ashamed to be selling most of what they did. Dirty floors. Unattractive displays. Limited selection of mostly everything.

But for the residents of the area, it was all they had.

bleh

[jwirr]

43. I hadn't thought about that angle. I was thinking about them losing the money.

[azmom]

47. Here in Arizona we have Food For Less stores

The stuff they sell is cheap but they don't have brand name items, and the fruits and vegetables they sell are not the best quality. You also have to bag your own stuff.

[vankuria]

14. What will these "seperate" grocery stores be?

Are they going to open up stores that only serve food stamp recipients? Will they have to wear identifying #'s like the Jews in Nazi Germany?

Most people using benefit cards have to shop at stores that are within walking distance to their homes or on a bus line.

[KamaAina]

16. Probably something like Prime Time Nutrition out here

that only sells WIC-approved foods.

[vankuria]

34. I've never heard of it.

Where do you live generally speaking? I live in Upstate NY and never heard of such a place. I worked in Social Work and most of my clients were on some type of assistance including food stamps, most shopped close to where they lived as they had no transportation other than a bus.

[KamaAina]

44. Bay Area.

Prime Time tends to pop up in places like Oakland. Surprise, surprise! </gomer-pyle>

[Ken Burch]

17. What would the separate grocery stores be called?

GruelMart? Ramen 'R Us? PottedMeatFoodProductLand?

[onethatcares]

20. PoorFolksMarket

dented cans is us,

[Manifestor_of_Light]

24. Selling Gruel Helper.

Thanks, Dad, for that term. That's what we called our macaroni 'n' cheese that we made, and tossed in extra cheese and a can of tuna so it had some protein in it. This was the cooking we did after mom went on strike when I was young.

[Ken Burch]

25. Did the strike end with the rest of you agreeing to finally HELP with the housekeeping?

[Manifestor_of_Light]

36. She wanted us to help but not throw anything away.

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She was a severe hoarder. So that made it hard to clean up. She got mad at me for taking some junk (paper bags and the like) out of the house, out of her "junk room", when she wasn't there and filling up my car and putting it in a dumpster. Then she complained that I messed up "her system". She had no system.

You don't know the situation.

She went on strike because she had a prescription pill addiction. In the sixties and seventies doctors would give women tranks to keep them quiet. Well, she started on Miltown and then went to Valium and then got on MAJOR tranks that were far stronger than valium. She basically slept her life away because she was mad at my father and she sabotaged everything he tried to do.

What happened was that my dad, my older sister and I had to do everything. I had to type for my dad to keep the family business running. If the typewriter didn't go, the business didn't go and money didn't come in. Fortunately, I learned to type when I was a senior in high school and was very good at it from my 12 years of piano lessons.
I never got an allowance or any payment for doing the typing that kept the family from starving.

I couldn't clean up the house until she died in 2002, and she'd alienated me and dad years ago with her nastiness and irrationality. He had thrown her out of his bedroom years before for her junk accumulation. She didn't have a problem with her hoarding but everybody else did. I couldn't get her to go in a nursing home after dad died, so I let her rot for a couple of years. Every time I tried to help her out I was "meddling" and "greedy" and "just trying to get her money".



Yes, we were a messed up, dysfunctional family. Yes, I didn't know it was strange & unhealthy until much later on.

[Ken Burch]

37. You're right. I didn't know that. I assumed it was the usual sitcom stereotype

of mom getting fed up because nobody else would help around the house. I am so sorry for jumping to that conclusion and am deeply sorry you were put through all that.

I can only hope you've found some healing since then, and again, I apologize for my flippant response.

(My original response will be left in place to try to teach people something about not jumping to conclusions in the name of a cheap laugh).

[Manifestor_of_Light]

39. Thank you.

I appreciate your response correcting your assumptions.

Yes, we were messed up in quite a few ways. We lived in a blue-collar suburb but I grew up with upper middle class values like "you're going to college, no questions" and music lessons and season symphony tickets. A bit of old money, where you inherit mom's cashmere coat and string of pearls. You're not flashy in your dress or your cars. You don't yell and scream either.

And I have read books and figured out some things about families that are isolated, contain dry drunks (my dad who stopped drinking but didn't really change) and are messed up with things like "lack of boundaries" and "emotional incest". I found out that people who create drama and make a big deal out of everything generally have borderline personality disorder, which is probably what my mother had.

My dad had the patience of a saint, and he tolerated her craziness for fifty three years of marriage. If he hadn't been the rational one who could think logically about how to deal with situations, then I don't know if I would have had any sensible role models at all. He was the person who told me not to spend my life worrying, and to deal with things in a rational manner.

[appalachiablue]

41. PoorMart

[lovemydog]

46. Whole Paycheck

[City Lights]

21. WTF!

Jesus wept.

[Vinca]

22. Maybe they could be identified by having tin cups surgically attached to their hands.

And I bet Reps. Kremer and Nass are in the pews on Sunday.

[Ken Burch]

26. they'd be made to wear a Spam slice on their coats. n/t.

[FiveGoodMen]

29. I hope one day I am priviledged to hear of the deaths

of Jesse Kremer and Sen. Steve Nass.

In no way shape or form are they human beings.

May hell be created so that they can reside there.

[Shrike47]

30. I suspect the well-connected Republican store owners will be allowed to make a hefty profit.

After all, they deigned to open a market for poor people, who are poor through their own choices and not due to be over-charged by store owners.

[Faux pas]

31. Soulless

sociopathic cretins. That is all.

[yuiyoshida]

33. I am starting to think if a Senator or Congressman/woman has the

letter (R) after their name, it should be followed by the word: (R) Asshole.

[Art_from_Ark]

38. They'd probably wear that additional title

as a badge of honor.

[hunter]

40. It's simply code for this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation

If you're not one of them, they don't want to share.

They will in fact take what is rightfully yours, including in the end, your life.

[demtenjeep]

42. reminicent of "colored to the rear" concept?

jesus how low will they go?

[ohnoyoudidnt]

45. Another bullshit disraction.

1% controls nearly half the wealth and it is getting worse, but lets blame the poor for the economy and vote Republican. I can't believe how may people fall for this crap.