Hillary Clinton: "Some day people are going to read about them & wonder, who were these people?"

[kpete]

Last edited Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:19 AM - Edit history (1)

Clinton reiterated her support for President Obama’s executive actions on carbon emissions, and suggested she might be open to more.

“I give Obama and the EPA enormous credit for going as far as he can go as a president using executive and regulatory action,” she said, according to pool reporter Annie Karni of Politico. “We have to actually convince more Americans that this is in their interest. You know, whatever it takes. I happen to think it’s a real threat. I think the science is pretty clear. The deniers, Lord knows, some day people are going to read about them and wonder, who were these people? And how did they say this?”

On campaign finance, Clinton said even total disclosure of campaign money is “not enough” on its own.

“What good does it do to disclose if somebody’s about to spend $100 million to promote their own interest and to defeat candidates who would stand up against them? What good does that do?” Clinton said.


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/clinton-woos-democrats-climate-change-and-campaign-finance

[MineralMan]

1. I wonder how long this thread will be, since it's positive toward Hillary Clinton.

I guess we'll see.

[mmonk]

6. I recommended it and I'm for Bernie Sanders in running for president.

[JonLP24]

9. Same here

[PatrynXX]

14. just cause it's pro Hillary doesn't mean everything she does is bad

having a base that is questioning Hillary is actually a good thing. No real primaries ?? means we have to do it. Still Nov 2016 we'll have to see. She can't be in the position of obvious winner cause nobody will show up

[JDPriestly]

45. So did I and I support Bernie Sanders too.

[CatWoman]

17. i'm with you

I am so fucking sick of the endless, non stop, constant Hillary bashing on this forum.

[Iliyah]

19. Ditto!

[calimary]

30. Me too! And three! And four - hundred million!

It's about time we had a politician at the highest levels saying these things. And articulating these attitudes. And reinforcing these themes. In public and out loud and on the record. It's long past time.

[JDPriestly]

46. I support Bernie Sanders.

What I notice about the supporters of Hillary Clinton is that when I raise an argument based on solid facts that explain why I do not want her to be my president, the answers I get are not based on facts. They are just emotional outcries.

Hillary Clinton is strong on women's issues in my view. But she showed in her vote for the Iraq War Resolution that she does not carefully do her homework when faced with a decision and in the light of the video in which she spoke to the Code Pink women who had gone to Iraq and personally informed Hillary about what they saw in Iraq and why Hillary should not support the war against Saddam Hussein, she was sternly rude. She had made up her mind, and no amount of evidence could shake her resolve.

Watch this for yourself:

Obama would never have treated any citizens with so much disrespect.

Then there are the problems with the bills that Clinton signed:

Nafta, which led to the outsourcing and exporting of many American jobs and ultimately with low wages and bad working conditions here.

The repeal of Glass-Steagall which was a major step toward the crash of 2008 -- major.

The so-called Welfare Reform Act which came back to bite in 2008 and the recession and which pushes poor women into the labor market while their children are still small. I happen to know the cost of day care. It's cheaper to pay a mother welfare and let her care for her child than to put her in a low-wage job and force her to work for food. Why shouldn't we care for families with children? Why shouldn't we admit that women with small children work hard and deserve pay just for doing that job? Rich women can afford to stay home with their small children if they wish, and everyone thinks they are so great for doing that. Why can't the poor? What is wrong with a poor woman getting a modest paycheck for caring for her own children?

Then there is the Telecommunications Act - - another bill that Bill should have sent back to Congress. It has resulted in corporate control and consolidation in all aspects of our communication sector. It's horrible.

So I have good reasons for supporting Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. I am very unhappy with the thought of Hillary Clinton in the White House. My unhappiness is not based on some personal hatred of Hillary. Far from it. My unhappiness is based on the policies of the Clinton administration and flaws that I perceive, weaknesses, in Hillary Clinton's handling of decision-making and dealing with people.

[JaneyVee]

2. YASSS! KNR!

[sufrommich]

3. That's an interesting comment from Justice Stevens.

"retired justice John Paul Stevens told her the only way he thought real(campaign finance) reform could happen would be through a constitutional amendment". It seems like the SC overturning Citizens United would be a good start and more likely than a constitutional amendment coming anytime soon.

[libdem4life]

29. That's Great...I didn't know about that. If states can prod along the process...good deal.

[yellowcanine]

4. "...who were these people?" That's easy. REPUBLICANS.

And shame on us if we let people forget it.

[calimary]

31. Otherwise known as human ostriches.

[yellowcanine]

35. No reason to slander ostriches. Their behavior makes sense.

http://www.livescience.com/33196-why-do-ostriches-bury-heads-in-sand.html

[Rex]

5. Yes, one day people will read about the GOP and wonder how America survived!

Good article!

[awoke_in_2003]

47. Assuming we do. nt

[spanone]

7. k&r...

[JonLP24]

8. I agree here 100% she is right on this issue

I was afraid this was going to be about TPP before I clicked on the link. Phew

[NCTraveler]

10. I'll say it again. Great start to her campaign. nt.

[justiceischeap]

11. She's hitting all the right notes so far

Can't wait to see her actual policy papers.

[rurallib]

25. second that - liking what I hear

[Cosmic Kitten]

12. Who were these people? INVESTORS IN FOSSIL FUELS

Seriously, the problems of
Climate Change and Campaign Cash
run straight through her donor base

he deniers, Lord knows, some day people are going to read about them and wonder, who were these people? And how did they say this?”

Wall Street, Hillary, Wall Street!
The same people who "Stacked The Deck".

Does she think we are stupid?

[Yallow]

20. Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Wealthy

Just thought I would let the Hillary Haters know.

Oh yeah, he left office with
a budget surplus after 22 million
jobs were created.

I will take a Clinton Re-Run any day of the week.

I would personally prefer Bernie, but he is
a "Socialist" and the would disqualify him in
the minds of 75% of voters, because of
Castro, and Stalin, and Mao and stuff.

How about a Clinton/Sanders ticket?

Would probably take all 50 states.

[Cosmic Kitten]

24. Are you are calling DU members Hillary Haters?

Name calling?
It seems you are being rude,
disruptive and intentionally hurtful?

Just thought I would let the Hillary Haters know.
-post #20 by Yallow

As you responded to my post,
is that comment directed at me?

If so, you may want to reconsider your post.

[AlbertCat]

27. Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Wealthy

Is Bill running again????











No.



You do realize Hillary and Bill are two different people....right?

Maybe not. This is only one problem with Hillary, and dynasties running for president.

[hfojvt]

38. he raised them

and then he cut them http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2665533

[Half-Century Man]

39. Clinton/ Sanders........

My version of an ideal situation based on the current political climate.

H. Clinton as President
B. Sanders as VP
E Warren as Majority Leader in the Senate
C. Rangel as Majority leader in the House.
Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center as Attorney General.


Dream postings
E. Snowden as Director of the NSA
J Boehner to third bar stool from the door at Frankie's Duck On Inn; West Chester Ohio.
Scott Walker In Witness Protection Program; Whereabouts unknown


Any help?

[ismnotwasm]

13. K&R

[William769]

15. Kick & recommended.

[Fred Sanders]

16. Contrast and compare to the possibility of a President GOP Clown Car....take the sure thing, folks.

Attacking Obama for lack of purity on a poorly understood international trade agreement is so short sighted as to be blind....unions have always been against trade agreements....Obama is again correct.

The truth is an equal opportunity illuminator and the light hurts no matter that it shines on the right or the left.

Republicans will drive a wedge into any discord and put TNT in the crack - using billions of their newly spendable dollars and purchased media - to widen any division in the Democratic Party, we all know it and need to think about it some more.

Debate the nominee with respect and please put away the Purity Police whistle.

[d_legendary1]

21. Agreed. She may not be my favorite but if she gets the nod I'm voting for her.

Either that or let some Republican goofball muck up the country more than it already is.

[Fred Sanders]

22. That is all that needs to be said sir. Well said. "Debate, not vilify."

[calimary]

33. That's a good one, Fred Sanders!

"Debate, not vilify."

[kpete]

34. "Debate, not vilify."

should be our mantra
here at DU

peace,
kp

[DownriverDem]

37. Ready for Hillary!

All you negative folks regarding Hillary: Please keep your eyes on the prize. Yes, it's about the White House, but even more it's about the House, Senate and Supreme Court. Repubs know this to be true and look at the Supremes we are stuck with. I will proudly cast my vote for Hillary. Check her out. Go back to the Watergate Hearings when she was a young lawyer and move forward from there. Yes there needs to be more Dems running (Warren isn't running) . It would make Hillary a better candidate for the general election if she has primary opponents.

[libdem4life]

32. Agreed...then we have Midterms and down ticket races to get ready for 2018 and 2022. That's when

and how we'll begin to change the course of the behemoth that is the Democratic Party toward the Left and Social Justice as it relates to our Nation.

[AuntPatsy]

18. .

[jalan48]

23. She makes a great point. What are we living to our kids?

[raouldukelives]

26. "These people" were the ones who shared ownership of the corporations destroying our climate.

The same ones destroying our democracy & civil liberties. Once in, they provide blanket immunity in their name for the actions undertaken for them.
In for a penny, in for a pound.

[3catwoman3]

28. Lots of us are...

...wondering that already. Someday is now.

[Orsino]

36. That's President Obama to you, Madame Secretary...

...but goddamn if that's not an otherwise great message.

I am very much afraid that Stevens is right, and that the corruption of the highest court means an amendment is our only way out.

[Hekate]

40. KnR

[Gothmog]

41. K&R

[treestar]

42. LOL why is Obama bothering when he is going to undermine it

with the TPP which will of course force us to raise the allowable emissions?

[bvar22]

43. I support HIllary on the Environment and Money inPolitics.

I would expect NO LESS from ANY Democrat,
but it seems disingenuous when observed with the list of Hillary's Top Donors:


Its EASY to just say the words.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

44. K&R