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Bernie Sanders: This is government of the few, by the few and for the few.... (Original Post) Playinghardball Apr 2015 OP
He totally gets it. Now we have a candidate who will help us try to take Zorra Apr 2015 #1
Sounds great, but, realistically, I don't see how it can happen. merrily Apr 2015 #2
''This is not what brave Americans have fought and died to defend.'' Octafish Apr 2015 #3
I DARE Hillary to say something like that DJ13 Apr 2015 #4
Exactly MissDeeds Apr 2015 #5
Yes. We need publicly funded campaigns. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #6
Plato seems to think that the step after Democracy is Tyranny. That Oligarchy came before. libdem4life Apr 2015 #7

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
1. He totally gets it. Now we have a candidate who will help us try to take
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:43 PM
Apr 2015

our democracy and our country back.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. Sounds great, but, realistically, I don't see how it can happen.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:49 PM
Apr 2015

2/3 House
2/3 Senate
2/3 states

Even something that seemed as uncontroversial as equal rights for women never passed.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. ''This is not what brave Americans have fought and died to defend.''
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:49 PM
Apr 2015

It certainly is not. And it is welcome to hear some ideas being vocalized which have not been addressed since the time of Jimmy Carter austerity and Voodoo Reaganomics: Class warfare and the oligarchy has almost won completely -- at least as far as the three branches of government go. We've still got a vote and a chance, which is nice.

Go Bernie! We've got a candidate who prioritizes in a way more aligned with my Democratic heroes: People over Profits.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
7. Plato seems to think that the step after Democracy is Tyranny. That Oligarchy came before.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:17 PM
Apr 2015
http://gaplauche.com/blog/2011/04/13/the-cycle-of-decline-of-regimes-in-platos-republic/

Just another take on it...either way it sucks. And Hell Yes on CU...that was more than a slippery slope...it was an avalanche.

He says: Aristocracy, Timocracy, Oligarchy, Democracy and Tyranny

"Democratic man loves freedom; the desiring part rules his soul yet there is nothing but desire to distinguish which objects of desire to pursue and nothing to keep desire in check. The freedom that initially accompanies democracy makes it a possible home for all types of men, even philosophers, but according to Plato this very unrestrained freedom inevitably degenerates into mob rule and rampant license, a condition ripe for tyrannical man to step in as a demagogue promising order and change. Tyrannical man is the logical conclusion of this decline in the soul as he is completely a slave to his passions and projects his lack of self-mastery or self-control onto the world as a blind need to control others and satisfy his insatiable appetite."

That last sentence seems to reflect the Police State...unfeeling, undeterred, brutal and soulless. Also sounds a bit "anti-Christy"
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