What does looting & destruction have to do with social justice?

[kpete]

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[NoJusticeNoPeace]

1. Looting and destruction, SPARE ME...

Everything the AfAm community has EVER done would PALE in comparison to what white people would do if this shit was happening to them at the hands of black people .

[Cleita]

3. +1000

No kidding.

[nc4bo]

5. ++++! nt

[seveneyes]

12. Link?

[PatrynXX]

14. nevermind if reports about police kicking them off busses

and refusesing to let kids leave the area holds up maybe why they aren't being charged at the moment

[madokie]

23. Tulsa race riots come to mind

whitey, I'm white btw, burned down the black portion of Tulsa Oklahoma over something as simple as a black man looking lustingly, she claimed, at a white woman. Look it up and read about it. Big stain on our area, this was/is.

We're all Black now and its time for my white ass to join in with my black brothers and sisters and keep this fire going until we stop the shit that the black people have had to put up with from ship to shore, from then to now. If you ask me that is.
Yes it is about Slavery, that was the beginning, the place the treatment of black people started. Its past time to stop this. Matters not the color of a persons skin, it matters whats in their heart. if time hasn't shown us anything else its shown us that black people have a Giant Good Heart to have put up with the shit they have had to for so long.

All black people are asking for is a fair shake

[treestar]

26. How can you know?

I don't think it would be any worse. Human nature is the same.

[House of Roberts]

2. The PTB (and the corporate media) ignore peaceful protest.

They want us to become discouraged and go home.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

4. Exactly. No violence = no media attention. nt

[Blue_Tires]

6. +1000

Funny how many DUers still seem to lose the plot...

[uponit7771]

7. +1

[awoke_in_2003]

8. Just stole for Facebook. nt

[Skittles]

9. they both suck

[7962]

13. Exactly

[romanic]

21. Pretty much.

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[indivisibleman]

10. No justice, no peace. n/t

[Bigmack]

11. Anybody here ever throw a tool...

.. or a phone... or something... because you were SO pissed that you just didn't give a shit about the cost, or whether it was juvenile, or what people would think?

I have. Frustration/anger/outrage....

Of course they shouldn't burn it down or loot or whatever, but saying "Fuck it!" and destroying something is universally human, and more so with the powerless.

What are the people gonna do instead of riot and loot...? Hire a lawyer? Write a nasty letter to somebody?

[the_sly_pig]

15. I've damaged my own property in anger...

I've never run over to my neighbors garage and destroyed his/her stuff. Anger and injustice are not permissions to destroy.

[Bigmack]

17. So the Boston Tea Party was not OK?...

...Leading slaves to freedom?

If your neighbor poisoned your dog... could you get angry enough to destroy his stuff?

I'm not justifying the riots... I'm trying to explain why people might do seemingly irrational things.

[the_sly_pig]

18. People do irrational things all the time...

But that is not the issue. Two wrongs do not make a right. The fact is that I empathize with the victims in this situation but I become less so when the rioting and destruction of property starts. If anyone wants respect, they must act maturity and consideration, regardless of how tragic the event.

Would I rage if one of my sons were killed? Absolutely. But my neighborhood would not and I would be required to wait for the wheels of justice to turn. And the wheels of justice turn slowly.

[Skittles]

16. I have thrown stuff in anger

but never to damage other people's property

and ARSON? IN-FUCKING-EXUSABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

[joshcryer]

20. Yes, destroying property, not something I've ever done.

But I have kicked over the occasional garbage can or two.

I grew up poor and two of my brothers would get so angry they'd actually destroy stuff, like, literally TVs and stuff, it was so aggravating to me to the point of I myself getting angry because they would hurt the whole family by "acting out."

Arson is at the higher level of destruction and I think that those who did it justified it by thinking that they were protecting themselves and others from further incrimination. A store gets looted, everyone leaves, someone is going to panic and then go back and make sure the evidence is destroyed.

I think human emotions lead to irrational behavior in a lot of instances. The protestors in Greece burned a bank down and people inside died. No one ever caught the culprits. It is utterly tragic and definitely inexcusable.

Arson should be prosecuted under the highest degree possible. I personally saw what I believe were the CVS arsonists leaving that store (there was a helicopter shot with rioters running fast away and it started smoking a few minutes later). One can only hope the police on the ground got the peoples' faces on video or tracked them down.

[joshcryer]

19. I was instructed recently that people should "control their emotions."

I found such language sociopathic, because normal people cannot control their emotions. Emotions are a strange thing. Lashing out is a human condition. Yes some people can control themselves better than others.

But everyone has their tipping point. Everyone except sociopaths who have no emotion. But even they do very bad things.

[NaturalHigh]

25. "normal people cannot control their emotions"...

That pretty much negates anything else you wrote.

[treestar]

28. Yes, there are many other ways

Hiring a lawyer is one and Gray's family likely have done so.

Peaceful protest marches.

Would you also defend terrorists? They can't raise an army to defeat their enemy, so they resort to terrorism to make their unhappiness known.

[romanic]

22. I feel like people are forgetting a critical fact about the rots that happened.

Many locals in the area have said they didn't recognize anybody from the neighborhood doing all of the looting and damage; basically saying that outsiders were in their hood breaking their shit and destroying their businesses. So really, what did the riots have to do with social justice, it sure as hell didn't have anything to do with the neighborhood itself.

[NaturalHigh]

24. Yep, and those are the people who will be hurt the most.

Good luck getting those businesses that were destroyed to come back.

[treestar]

27. Simple tu quo que fallacy

or the kid saying, "he did it too!"

Not helpful.