Mugshots on CNN!!

[bravenak]

If you go right now you can see the faces of the cops who killed Freddie Gray.
http://www.scoopnest.com/user/OutFrontCNN/594286549107343361

[bravenak]

1. Watching Fox News right now is so fun. Lol. Billo took the night off, Juan Williams is there.

I like Juan sometimes.

[bravenak]

3. Yep.

[yeoman6987]

6. My gosh of course CNN uses African American cop as highlight

It wouldn't be so bad if all of the could be seen.

[VScott]

38. Maybe... just maybe, it's because he was the FUCKING driver...

and is the one facing the most serious charges?

- Police Officer Caesar Goodson, 45, has been a member of the Baltimore Police Department since 1999, the driver of the prisoner transport van: Charged with second-degree depraved heart murder; involuntary manslaughter; second-degree negligent assault; manslaughter by vehicle by means of gross negligence; manslaughter by vehicle by means of criminal negligence; misconduct in office for failure to secure a prisoner, failure to render aid.

[yeoman6987]

80. I guess

I don't believe that's the reason though.

[VScott]

87. Believe what you like.

There was a 50/50 chance of the first preview being a white or black cop.

As if it really matters or has any deep rooted meaning or racist overtones.

Yeah... no doubt some editor or lay out person sat there and said to him/herself...

'Hey... lets put one of the n****r cops on the front page.
'That will ease racial tensions and disprove 'that it's only white cops that were
responsible for murdering Freddy Gray'.

And the kicker is... what if the editor and/or lay out person was black themselves?

Seriously... WTF?

[yeoman6987]

88. It's just a same they couldn't put all 6 on the page

[VScott]

93. It's to accommodate smartphone and mobile device users.

Trust me on this one. I don't even own a smartphone (strictly a desktop PC and occasional laptop user),
and it angers/frustrates me to no end when trying to read a story formatted for the fore mentioned
smartphone and mobile device users when trying to read or view something on a laptop on PC.

Ever notice how news feeds photo gallery's or montages are exclusively 'slide shows' now?

[yeoman6987]

96. Great point! Thanks!

[Voice for Peace]

86. I had to look up "depraved heart murder" -- means the death happened because

the cop who should have been looking out for him had a depraved heart.

In United States law, depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is an action where a defendant acts with a "depraved indifference" to human life and where such act results in a death. In a depraved-heart murder a defendant commits an act even though they know their act runs an unusually high risk of causing death or serious bodily harm to someone else. If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a "depraved indifference" to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought aka premeditation.[1] In most states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder.[2]

If no death results, such an act would generally constitute reckless endangerment (sometimes known as "culpable negligence&quot and possibly other crimes, such as assault.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart_murder

[Historic NY]

91. they can if you follow the timeline...

3 white & 3 black....

[notadmblnd]

4. here they are

[yeoman6987]

8. Thank you

I just complained about CNN.

[951-Riverside]

9. So which one is the clinically insane guy who had his guns confiscated but still allowed to patrol?

I'm guessing the doughy face loser bottom center.

[notadmblnd]

17. I hadn't heard that

where did you hear one was psycho?

[951-Riverside]

21. It was on Talking Points Memo

His name is Lt. Brian Rice

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/baltimore-police-officer-arrested-freddie-gray-menta-health-concerns

[notadmblnd]

22. thanks

[notadmblnd]

27. Nope, top center

https://www.google.com/search?q=Lt.+Brian+Rice&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

[FarPoint]

50. Are they actually in custody now?

In jail? Was there a Bond offer?

[notadmblnd]

55. I think so. Haven't heard if they have been arraigned

Hopefully they will be held with no bond.

[FarPoint]

59. I am guessing here...

If they are in jail...they probably have private cells. They probably will get regular food instead of meals offered to the inmate.

[alcibiades_mystery]

84. They've all bonded out already...just on Rachel Maddow

[kelly1mm]

34. Do you have a link for the 'clinically insane' allegation? Having mental health issues DOES NOT

mean you are clinically insane. There is already so much bigotry against those with mental health issues that we need to be VERY CAREFULL in how we refer to those that seek mental health treatment or have mental health problems.

[951-Riverside]

49. Do you support people with "Mental health issues" having access to guns & becoming police officers?

Yes or No.

Don't try to weasel your way out by using hyperbole either. Its a simple question.


Edit: This is what you originally posted.

Do you have a link for the 'clinically insane' allegation? Having mental health issues DOES NOT mean you are clinically insane. There is already so much bigotry against those with mental health issues that we need to be VERY CAREFULL in how we refer to those that seek mental health treatment or have mental health problems.

[XemaSab]

53. Depends on the "mental health issues," no?

I'd rather have someone who has taken prescription antidepressants for years than have a sociopath who is outwardly normal.

[kelly1mm]

67. Do you have a link for your allegation of 'clinically insane'? Yes or No. Don't try

to weasel your way out by using hyperbole either. Its a simple question.


Since I asked you a question and you refused to answer, I will wait till you do answer before I reply to your query. However I will say that not everything is black and white. If a person goes to a counselor after the break up or a relationship due to depression is one type of mental health issue. Having a psychotic break and eating off someone's face is another. They should be treated differently. Only one of those examples is probably clinically insane.

[951-Riverside]

69. So, I take that as a Yes.

Its good to know that you support giving people with mental illness a gun and a badge and setting them loose on the streets of America.

[kelly1mm]

71. So I will take that as a 'No, I have no link for my baseless allegation' Good to know

that you support making crap up and smearing those with any kind of mental health history as clinically insane and not allowing them to be police officers. Good way to further stigmatize an already discriminated against population and ensure those who may need help continue to not seek it for fear of bigotry against them.

[951-Riverside]

74. There is nothing left to debate here. You've made your position very clear n/t

[bravenak]

10. Nice. That's how I want to see cops who kill unarmed civilians.

In mugshots or court.

[951-Riverside]

14. +1000

[notadmblnd]

15. Not smiling now, are they?

I wonder how they feel being on that side of the arrest process.

[bravenak]

23. I hope it feel just like it feel when they falsely imprison people for legal knives.

And I want them protected. I want them nice and safe for trial.

[notadmblnd]

33. they're not being falsly imprisoned.

kept safe, no bail.

[LiberalElite]

39. When did they find the knife -

I assumed they found it after the arrest and it was an afterthought excuse like "Oh yea we had to - he had a knife!"

[bravenak]

41. Way after the take down, the knife appears.

Sigh.

[LiberalElite]

44. So maybe it was an afterthought of an excuse. -

that they thought would get them over and maybe had in other cases. Geez.

[bravenak]

47. They were so used to this working.

They forgot that we have cell phones. Cops can use anything to arrest you, anything.

[XemaSab]

57. And initial reports said "ONOES ILLEGAL SWITCHBLADE"

but then they were like "Oh wait, it was a folding pocket knife like half the white men in America carry."

[bravenak]

60. That's so scandalous! I have a bunch of different utility knives.

When I go to the courthouse, i dump my purse in my car. Just in case.

[hifiguy]

98. Damn straight. Long past due.

[FarPoint]

32. The female officer was the sargent....

So, does that mean she was the ranking, in charge officer?

[notadmblnd]

40. nope, the Lt top center was top ranking

apparently a nut job that had gun taken away because of mental problems



BALTIMORE (AP) — The highest-ranking Baltimore police officer in the arrest that led to Freddie Gray's death was hospitalized in April 2012 over mental health concerns for an unknown duration and had his guns confiscated by local sheriff's deputies, according to records from the sheriff's office and court obtained by The Associated Press.

Lt. Brian Rice, who initially pursued Gray on a Baltimore street when Gray fled after Rice made eye contact April 12, declared three years ago that he "could not continue to go on like this" and threatened to commit an act that was censored in the public version of a report obtained by the AP from the Carroll County, Maryland, Sheriff's Office. Rice lived in the county, about 35 miles northwest of Baltimore. At the time, deputies were responding to a request to check on his welfare by a fellow Baltimore police officer who is the mother of Rice's son.

Deputies reported that Rice appeared "normal and soft spoken" and said he had been seeking "sympathy and attention." But citing "credible information," the deputies confiscated both his official and personal guns, called his commanding officer and transported Rice to the Carroll Hospital Center. The weapons included his .40-caliber police pistol, a 9 mm handgun, an AK-47-style rifle, a .22-caliber rifle and two shotguns.

It was not immediately clear how long Rice was at the hospital or whether he went on his own accord. Rice declined to speak with the AP or discuss allegations in a subsequent court filing that he had behaved in erratic or threatening ways toward family members. When the AP visited Rice's home last week and left a note requesting an interview, Rice called the sheriff's department to report the visit as trespassing. Karen McAleer, the mother of his son, also declined to speak with the AP.


.... more..... http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/baltimore-police-officer-arrested-freddie-gray-menta-health-concerns

[FarPoint]

43. Ohhhhhh...hmmm that's pittiful.

Thank you for the clarification.


He needed a desk job ...never into the field with a weapon.

[riderinthestorm]

42. No, the LT is the ranking officer. Brian Rice nt

[Gothmog]

95. These officers need to take the Tom DeLay school of mug shot

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2005/10/whats_the_deal_with_tom_delays_mug_shot.html

[Logical]

5. I really hope they go to jail! nt

[bravenak]

11. Me too.

[Logical]

16. I don't trust Juries, they tend to trust cops to much. nt

[bravenak]

26. Might get black juries there tho.

Black jurors let OJ go because of Mark Furhman. I was mad at that (I cried) but I understood the lack of trust for anything police said at the time.

[Logical]

52. Well, I hope it is a mostly black jury! And I think the police nationwide are getting a bad rep! nt

[bravenak]

56. Rep or rap?

[Logical]

89. Rep - reputation! nt

[MoonRiver]

31. Depends on where the jury is chosen.

[hifiguy]

99. This is key.

And it goes without saying that the defense will try to load the jury with bigots and borderline bigots. The prosecution is going to have to be on its toes to get a clean jury, but I think Ms. Mosby is more than up to the job.

[MoonRiver]

100. I agree. She is very sharp.

[workinclasszero]

7. Wonder how many other nickel rides

These assholes have done over the years?

[bravenak]

12. Probably was not the first time.

[pinboy3niner]

20. It's not a bug, it's a feature

[Sexy Action News]

13. I just heard something horrifying.

I am listing to Marilyn Mosby's statement about the charges all the way through for the first time.

Apparently, at the van's first stop, they removed him from the van, cuffed his hands and feet, and then placed him ON HIS STOMACH, HEAD FIRST, ON THE FLOOR OF THE VAN. The "rough ride" theory make complete sense now. A slam on the brakes would have slammed his head into the front of the van and broken his neck.

Wow, "depraved heart" could not be a more apt description.

[panader0]

18. Welcome to DU--enjoy...

[Sexy Action News]

25. Thanks! n/t

[workinclasszero]

19. Yes the nickel ride is a police torture technique

They can main and kill you that way with no blood on their hands....so to speak.

The nickel ride
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nickel+ride

[Sexy Action News]

48. Definitely a nickle ride

I was aware of the concept of the "nickel ride" aka "rough ride" but I had no idea he was hogtied on his stomach on the floor of the van. I can't think of a more effective way to break someone's neck.

The thought of it is just awful.

I think it is only a matter of time before these cops start to dime on each other to save their own skins.

[bravenak]

54. That is evil.

I bet we hear about a lot of rides like that from all over the nation.

[Sexy Action News]

65. This is not new.

There have been huge settlement payouts as a result of this.

http://articles.philly.com/2001-06-03/news/25322977_1_wagon-police-officer-police-van

http://phillydeclaration.org/2014/09/24/500000-settlement-reached-in-latest-police-brutality-lawsuit/

http://articles.philly.com/2013-12-09/news/44946906_1_philadelphia-police-police-misconduct-police-officials

http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/back_neck/back-neck-injury-lawsuits-28-20162.html#.VUQdrPlViko

What I don't understand is why no officer has ever been charged (that I know of) in any of these cases.

[BronxBoy]

102. Or lost their jobs....n/t

[Sexy Action News]

103. Seriously?

None of them even got fired? Even after a huge civil payout?

Wow.

[TeeYiYi]

24. Thugs...

TYY

[bravenak]

30. !

[ChazII]

85. Agree 100%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee

This definition describes some of the actions these officers were charged with i.e. gaining trust and then strangling the victim. In this case we are supposed to be able to trust the police not to kill.

[LiberalElite]

28. Half of them are Black???!!!?!

[bravenak]

35. Hell yeah!!!

Everybody knows black cops are just as bad. Cop culture.

[VScott]

90. It's like a gang

Once you're patched in, for better or for worse, or for life, they're your family now
and you never turn against, disagree or rat on family.

That... and for someone from a poor or working class background, and without a college education
the pay (and protection), can be incentive enough.

[MoonRiver]

37. Sociopaths come in all colors.

[kelly1mm]

45. You expected something different? Not too familiar with Baltimore are you? The only

color that matters to many police officers is blue.

[LiberalElite]

46. Nope. Not familiar with Baltimore. But I'm getting there... nt

[kelly1mm]

61. While at this point it is a bit dated and almost a cliche, the program THE WIRE in many ways

is a pretty good depiction of Baltimore and pretty accurately depicts the adversarial nature of relationship between the police and the citizens of the city. The show runner of The Wire was interviewed recently and he explained that in many instances the brutality doled out by black police officers is worse than that doled out by white officers as white officers are subject to (a bit) more scrutiny by the mostly black political leaders in the city.

[LiberalElite]

63. I'll look for it. Thanks.

[MrScorpio]

64. Cops come in only ONE color...

Blue.

[morningfog]

72. Yep. Cops are blue and see in black and white.

[MADem]

78. They're all blue. That's the problem.

They adapt an "us v. them" mentality, and we're all "them."

[chillfactor]

29. also MSNBC...

[BumRushDaShow]

36. Once more I post

[bravenak]

62. .

[VScott]

51. I'd really like to know...

if all of them were (and will be), required to undergo standard booking and pre-trial procedures;
that is... being cuffed, in orange jumpsuits and a perp walk whenever SOP or past practice call's for it?

Yeah... right...

[bravenak]

58. Slager had to go through it, so should they, imo.

I liked him in the stripes. Shooting a man in the back, rough rides... This is obscene.

[onecaliberal]

66. They were all bailed out according to Chris Hayes

[bravenak]

68. I want to know if their bail was as high as those kids who broke windows. If not, why not higher?

Feeling suspicious. We need to know that info. A young man was yelling at us on TV to find that out to see if he was right and their bail woukd be lower than the half a million dollars for some of the rioters.

[still_one]

70. I notice that CNN points out that 3 of the 6 officers are African American. Guess what CNN, that

has NOTHING to do with the murder of Freddie Gray. CNN is implying, not so subtlety that because three were African Americans, it isn't about race, and that is a fallacy.

There are a lot of examples of people belonging to a particular demographic who express racist thoughts toward that Demographic, even if they are part of it.

[bravenak]

73. they love pointing out that stuff.

They think that's all that matters. A guy told the fox news reporter off about doing that about a half hour ago.

[still_one]

77. It is comparable to the statement that because the U.S. has an African American president, there is

no racism. It is willful ignorance on the part of the media.

[bravenak]

79. I agree. It's not really working.

[still_one]

81. I hope you are right

[Tommy_Carcetti]

75. See: West, Allen. nt

[madokie]

76. Awefuckingsome

bout time they start charging these murdering mo'fos

[bravenak]

82. I'm pretty pleased too. Finally!!

[freshwest]

97. Too bad I can't see these freakazoids' faces Browser won't let it through. Or twitter. n/t

[Ace Rothstein]

83. Wow!

I didn't watch the presser this morning but reading the article on the timeline of events should make anyone sick to their stomach.

[Sexy Action News]

92. Is anyone watching Hannity?

I'm too new to create a new thread, but he has tripled down in defense of these cops. Don't watch it if you don't want to be enraged. He's interviewing some shadowed figure with an altered voice spouting long debunked nonsense. Wild speculation that he was high, that the cops witnessed a hand to hand drug transaction, that his injury did not happen in the van. I mean it is Such. Utter. Nonsense.

I just.. I don't even know that to say.

edit: apparently he's a Baltimore cop

[Gothmog]

94. I saw the mugshots on MSNBC also

[stage left]

101. Good!

They'll look good in orange--bunch of plug-uglies.