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LiberalArkie

(15,731 posts)
Sat May 2, 2015, 10:00 AM May 2015

Barack Obama’s Mentor Believes Bernie Sanders ‘Will Be a Force’ Against Hillary

http://observer.com/2015/05/u-s-senator-bernie-sanders-will-be-a-force-against-hillary-clinton/


Mr. Durbin effusively praised Mr. Sanders, telling the Observer that he is “pure of heart” and a “true liberal.” “You go to the word ‘liberal’ in the dictionary and there’s his picture, and he has an army of followers, just faithful, loyal followers,” he said.

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Barack Obama’s Mentor Believes Bernie Sanders ‘Will Be a Force’ Against Hillary (Original Post) LiberalArkie May 2015 OP
Bernie had me at hello. :D roguevalley May 2015 #1
Hillary, Kochs, et al will "Feel the Bern" Triana May 2015 #2
DUzy! HappyMe May 2015 #9
I love it! Jackpine Radical May 2015 #18
Lumping Hillary and the Kochs together is BS redstateblues May 2015 #20
Perfect! +1 99Forever May 2015 #25
"The Clinton campaign is like a large balloon floating around in search of a pin." NYC_SKP May 2015 #3
Well said. woo me with science May 2015 #14
Well said! G_j May 2015 #4
look, love the quotes, but I HATE seeing far right wingnut sites used as links here. cali May 2015 #5
Hillary has big problems. earthside May 2015 #6
Sanders is honest. Hillary is a corrupt corporate politician representing Wall Street. woo me with science May 2015 #7
Bernie is not without problems redstateblues May 2015 #8
If "that word" is his biggest problem SusanCalvin May 2015 #22
As another tread said: Who is going to vote for him: "Nobody but the people" LiberalArkie May 2015 #12
Exactly, SamKnause May 2015 #16
Not worried about Bernie: Sanders followers, have nasty streak toward Hillary!! lewebley3 May 2015 #10
Two "to"s too concreteblue May 2015 #13
Welcome to DU, concreteblue! calimary May 2015 #17
a couple of points,but first, bullshit to your claim that bernie's supporters cali May 2015 #19
So BrotherIvan May 2015 #21
Bernie is not your standard (read "stereotypical") white male. nt SusanCalvin May 2015 #24
Bigoted nonsense, lacking any connection to reality. morningfog May 2015 #26
Bernie is a white males, that is just reality!! lewebley3 May 2015 #28
if wishes were horses everyone would ride. Laser102 May 2015 #11
Welcome to DU, Laser102! calimary May 2015 #15
Yes, she will. leftofcool May 2015 #27
oh. I thought this was going to be about Lieberman ("Barack Obama's mentor")nt m-lekktor May 2015 #23
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. "The Clinton campaign is like a large balloon floating around in search of a pin."
Sat May 2, 2015, 10:38 AM
May 2015

It's going to go down but it's still taking all the air out of the room, the campaign is.

Post recommended, but with one observation.

It's not all about Hillary (yes, I know that it is about her strength in donors and $$$)

But seriously, I look forward to when the media talks about Sanders in his strength and voting record and not perpetually in relationship to 'her'.



woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
14. Well said.
Sat May 2, 2015, 11:58 AM
May 2015

All of that post.

Bernie knows *exactly* how the MSM propaganda machine will try to make his campaign about Hillary.

He doesn't put up with any of that garbage. He is all about the message, which is all about the people.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
6. Hillary has big problems.
Sat May 2, 2015, 10:39 AM
May 2015

It is the nature of politics to be biased towards your candidate choice, but despite the denial going on with Hillary supporters, she has big political problems.

And Sanders is indeed going to be a major force in bringing those to the fore.
Which is good because Hillary Clinton would be a flawed nominee that would likely bring defeat to the Democrats in November 2016.

So, it is not that Sanders is going to make Hillary a better candidate, it is that Sanders will save the Democratic Party from a catastrophic mistake.

Sanders is inspiring; Hillary is boring. Sanders is excited and passionate; Hillary is dull and pedantic. Sanders is older than Hillary, but comes off younger and more vigorous. Sanders is a progressive; Hillary is a centerist. Sanders if Mr. Clean; my god, Hillary has a trainload of questionable baggage.

Don't whistle past the graveyard -- yes, a crazy Repuglican can win against a bad Democratic nominee. My impression is that the electorate is still quite impatient for some meaningful change and a new direction, a far-right Repuglican provides that ... Clinton is the conventional, no-change, dull-as-dishwater candidate.

The nominee may very well not be Sen. Sanders, but there is a glimmer now that at least it won't be Mrs. Clinton and Democrats can keep the White House and regain Congress in 2016 with some new, bold, exciting leadership.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
8. Bernie is not without problems
Sat May 2, 2015, 10:58 AM
May 2015

The fact that he is a self described socialist will not play well in states where Clinton will do well. I know it is heresy to be a centrist here on DU but the election in the general will be decided in the middle.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
22. If "that word" is his biggest problem
Sun May 3, 2015, 09:14 AM
May 2015

Then he doesn't have a problem. He will explain the meaning of the word, as many times as it takes for the knee-jerk people to realize it's all-American.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
10. Not worried about Bernie: Sanders followers, have nasty streak toward Hillary!!
Sat May 2, 2015, 11:14 AM
May 2015

They talk as if is to uppity for Woman to be successful or ambitious:
that is the same way people in GOP talked Obama being
to uppity for a black man.

Sanders supporters attack Hillary for GOP policy, it was Bush that crashed
the econ and it was Bush's decision to go to war!

Hillary is loyal Dem, she supports Dem!!

I am not interested in a another white male for President!

calimary

(81,557 posts)
17. Welcome to DU, concreteblue!
Sat May 2, 2015, 12:38 PM
May 2015

Good to have you with us! Uppity. Ahhh... that word. I consider it a badge of honor. "Uppity" could apply to me as well. If somebody calls me "uppity" I see that as a backhanded begrudging compliment because it strongly suggests I'm bothering and picking at the scabs of their antiquated out-of-date, obsolete, moldy-oldie mindset.

I sometimes chuckle to myself about the stereotypes and loaded words that, unfortunately for the Troglodyte contingent in this country, have now been shoved forcibly down their throats. They've now had their slanderous insulting "uppity" in the White House for six years and they'll just have to get over it for another two years (even though we know they won't). Well, like it or not, Hillary's coming, as the likely candidate of the Dems, AND/OR the winner of the General Election. That OTHER "Uppity." HAVE SOME MORE "Uppity", assholes! DEAL with it. And GET OVER it. Sometimes a SECOND dose is needed. The doctor prescribes TWO big fat loaded hypodermics for your disease. In a ROW! You're gonna get over it because maybe we're just gonna have to MAKE YOU get over it. We're just gonna have to drag you idiot Bronze-Age-mentality bubble-dwellers kicking and screaming into the 21st Century where realistic people with a solid grip on reality (and the progress that the march of time brings) live. Because THAT is the right thing to do, and while we're at it, we're taking back the word "right." So it can mean correct and accurate again, and the so-called "right" wing doesn't own it anymore. Their claiming it as THEIR word has totally perverted its meaning. "Right" now means WRONG.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. a couple of points,but first, bullshit to your claim that bernie's supporters
Sat May 2, 2015, 01:01 PM
May 2015

talk "is to uppity for Woman to be successful or ambitious:
that is the same way people in GOP talked Obama being
to uppity for a black man."

put up or you know what

And much as I'd like a woman president, I don't vote on gender or race, but issues and ideas. YOU go in for blind partisanship

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
21. So
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:49 AM
May 2015

You're saying Sanders supporters are bashing Hillary for being a woman, which is demonstrably untrue as the many female followers on this site and others will tell you.

Then you bash Bernie Sanders for his gender and his race. Do you also hate him because he's Jewish for a trifecta?

Wow, ur smart.

Laser102

(816 posts)
11. if wishes were horses everyone would ride.
Sat May 2, 2015, 11:14 AM
May 2015

I saw the same thing going on here in 2008 against Hillary. The difference this time is Bernie Sanders is not Barack Obama. Hillary will win the primary and the election.

calimary

(81,557 posts)
15. Welcome to DU, Laser102!
Sat May 2, 2015, 12:21 PM
May 2015

Glad you're here! Mixed feelings here because I believe, like you, that Hillary has the biggest momentum, and yeah, money, to go the distance, plus she has the let's-FINALLY-break-that-last-glass-ceiling, it's-ABOUT-DAMN-TIME thing for many women (full disclosure - VERY MUCH including ME!) going for her.

But I have long been an admirer of Bernie Sanders. I hope rather ardently that his presence will galvanize the progressives - and the progressive mindset - in this country, and bring OUR issues directly to the FRONT of the line, to the CENTER of the stage, to the MIDDLE of the spotlight. Our side has been scoffed at and sneered at and belittled and demeaned and diminished - for 30 or 40 YEARS now. (Thank you Powell Memo. See my sig line for the link.) It's ABOUT DAMN TIME the left rises again. And takes over again. Because we've been forced down a radical CON path and it HASN'T WORKED! Rights being rolled back - in many cases seriously hard-fought and hard-won rights, like women's rights, the mere right to vote, the quest to open up health care for EVERYONE, the quest to be able to marry whom you LOVE, ALL this stuff is under fire!!!! ALL OF THESE GAINS are under fire, under SEIGE!!! The efforts to drag us all back by the hair into the past - have gained FAR too much momentum.

And that's just in the civil liberties arena. The very idea that "personhood" extends to artificial constructs too, that cold hard cash is equal to free speech - you wanna talk abortion? THAT'S an abortion, folks. An abortion of principles. An abortion of rights.

So if Bernie Sanders can shift that momentum, turn that shit around, and unstick the pendulum from where it's been forcibly fastened to the far "right" - if Bernie Sanders can help push us back toward the left, if Bernie Sanders can push Hillary Clinton and others on our side of the aisle BACK TOWARD THE LEFT, then my prayers will be answered.

My ideal ticket, actually, would be Clinton/Sanders. That'd throw the so-called right for a loop! It'd encourage full-on unity among us Dems. And I think it would have some really broad appeal to everybody else. It would also solidify the Bernie Sanders agenda at the very top of the ziggurat. With Elizabeth Warren and hopefully an emboldened Sherrod Brown and Sheldon Whitehouse and whoever's gonna replace Barbara Boxer (probably Kamala Harris) and hopefully a return for Russ Feingold to the Senate - where he belongs, maybe we can finally shift the momentum back where it belongs. ON THE LEFT.

I don't think he has what it takes to win - especially financially. But if he and Hillary were to team up, I think they'd be a COLOSSUS. I think they'd be King Kong AND Godzilla, joined at the hip. And ALL we'd be talking about as a nation would be a LEFTWARD-LEANING agenda.

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