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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBarack Obama’s Mentor Believes Bernie Sanders ‘Will Be a Force’ Against Hillary
http://observer.com/2015/05/u-s-senator-bernie-sanders-will-be-a-force-against-hillary-clinton/Mr. Durbin effusively praised Mr. Sanders, telling the Observer that he is pure of heart and a true liberal. You go to the word liberal in the dictionary and theres his picture, and he has an army of followers, just faithful, loyal followers, he said.
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roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)Last edited Sat May 2, 2015, 12:24 PM - Edit history (2)
Mwaahahahahaaa!
Well played.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Hyperbole. C'mon.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Wish we could rec replies.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)It's going to go down but it's still taking all the air out of the room, the campaign is.
Post recommended, but with one observation.
It's not all about Hillary (yes, I know that it is about her strength in donors and $$$)
But seriously, I look forward to when the media talks about Sanders in his strength and voting record and not perpetually in relationship to 'her'.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)All of that post.
Bernie knows *exactly* how the MSM propaganda machine will try to make his campaign about Hillary.
He doesn't put up with any of that garbage. He is all about the message, which is all about the people.
G_j
(40,372 posts)K&R
cali
(114,904 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)It is the nature of politics to be biased towards your candidate choice, but despite the denial going on with Hillary supporters, she has big political problems.
And Sanders is indeed going to be a major force in bringing those to the fore.
Which is good because Hillary Clinton would be a flawed nominee that would likely bring defeat to the Democrats in November 2016.
So, it is not that Sanders is going to make Hillary a better candidate, it is that Sanders will save the Democratic Party from a catastrophic mistake.
Sanders is inspiring; Hillary is boring. Sanders is excited and passionate; Hillary is dull and pedantic. Sanders is older than Hillary, but comes off younger and more vigorous. Sanders is a progressive; Hillary is a centerist. Sanders if Mr. Clean; my god, Hillary has a trainload of questionable baggage.
Don't whistle past the graveyard -- yes, a crazy Repuglican can win against a bad Democratic nominee. My impression is that the electorate is still quite impatient for some meaningful change and a new direction, a far-right Repuglican provides that ... Clinton is the conventional, no-change, dull-as-dishwater candidate.
The nominee may very well not be Sen. Sanders, but there is a glimmer now that at least it won't be Mrs. Clinton and Democrats can keep the White House and regain Congress in 2016 with some new, bold, exciting leadership.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Enough is enough.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)The fact that he is a self described socialist will not play well in states where Clinton will do well. I know it is heresy to be a centrist here on DU but the election in the general will be decided in the middle.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Then he doesn't have a problem. He will explain the meaning of the word, as many times as it takes for the knee-jerk people to realize it's all-American.
LiberalArkie
(15,731 posts)SamKnause
(13,112 posts)"Nobody But The People"
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)They talk as if is to uppity for Woman to be successful or ambitious:
that is the same way people in GOP talked Obama being
to uppity for a black man.
Sanders supporters attack Hillary for GOP policy, it was Bush that crashed
the econ and it was Bush's decision to go to war!
Hillary is loyal Dem, she supports Dem!!
I am not interested in a another white male for President!
concreteblue
(626 posts)WHere's uppity?
calimary
(81,557 posts)Good to have you with us! Uppity. Ahhh... that word. I consider it a badge of honor. "Uppity" could apply to me as well. If somebody calls me "uppity" I see that as a backhanded begrudging compliment because it strongly suggests I'm bothering and picking at the scabs of their antiquated out-of-date, obsolete, moldy-oldie mindset.
I sometimes chuckle to myself about the stereotypes and loaded words that, unfortunately for the Troglodyte contingent in this country, have now been shoved forcibly down their throats. They've now had their slanderous insulting "uppity" in the White House for six years and they'll just have to get over it for another two years (even though we know they won't). Well, like it or not, Hillary's coming, as the likely candidate of the Dems, AND/OR the winner of the General Election. That OTHER "Uppity." HAVE SOME MORE "Uppity", assholes! DEAL with it. And GET OVER it. Sometimes a SECOND dose is needed. The doctor prescribes TWO big fat loaded hypodermics for your disease. In a ROW! You're gonna get over it because maybe we're just gonna have to MAKE YOU get over it. We're just gonna have to drag you idiot Bronze-Age-mentality bubble-dwellers kicking and screaming into the 21st Century where realistic people with a solid grip on reality (and the progress that the march of time brings) live. Because THAT is the right thing to do, and while we're at it, we're taking back the word "right." So it can mean correct and accurate again, and the so-called "right" wing doesn't own it anymore. Their claiming it as THEIR word has totally perverted its meaning. "Right" now means WRONG.
cali
(114,904 posts)talk "is to uppity for Woman to be successful or ambitious:
that is the same way people in GOP talked Obama being
to uppity for a black man."
put up or you know what
And much as I'd like a woman president, I don't vote on gender or race, but issues and ideas. YOU go in for blind partisanship
You're saying Sanders supporters are bashing Hillary for being a woman, which is demonstrably untrue as the many female followers on this site and others will tell you.
Then you bash Bernie Sanders for his gender and his race. Do you also hate him because he's Jewish for a trifecta?
Wow, ur smart.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Laser102
(816 posts)I saw the same thing going on here in 2008 against Hillary. The difference this time is Bernie Sanders is not Barack Obama. Hillary will win the primary and the election.
calimary
(81,557 posts)Glad you're here! Mixed feelings here because I believe, like you, that Hillary has the biggest momentum, and yeah, money, to go the distance, plus she has the let's-FINALLY-break-that-last-glass-ceiling, it's-ABOUT-DAMN-TIME thing for many women (full disclosure - VERY MUCH including ME!) going for her.
But I have long been an admirer of Bernie Sanders. I hope rather ardently that his presence will galvanize the progressives - and the progressive mindset - in this country, and bring OUR issues directly to the FRONT of the line, to the CENTER of the stage, to the MIDDLE of the spotlight. Our side has been scoffed at and sneered at and belittled and demeaned and diminished - for 30 or 40 YEARS now. (Thank you Powell Memo. See my sig line for the link.) It's ABOUT DAMN TIME the left rises again. And takes over again. Because we've been forced down a radical CON path and it HASN'T WORKED! Rights being rolled back - in many cases seriously hard-fought and hard-won rights, like women's rights, the mere right to vote, the quest to open up health care for EVERYONE, the quest to be able to marry whom you LOVE, ALL this stuff is under fire!!!! ALL OF THESE GAINS are under fire, under SEIGE!!! The efforts to drag us all back by the hair into the past - have gained FAR too much momentum.
And that's just in the civil liberties arena. The very idea that "personhood" extends to artificial constructs too, that cold hard cash is equal to free speech - you wanna talk abortion? THAT'S an abortion, folks. An abortion of principles. An abortion of rights.
So if Bernie Sanders can shift that momentum, turn that shit around, and unstick the pendulum from where it's been forcibly fastened to the far "right" - if Bernie Sanders can help push us back toward the left, if Bernie Sanders can push Hillary Clinton and others on our side of the aisle BACK TOWARD THE LEFT, then my prayers will be answered.
My ideal ticket, actually, would be Clinton/Sanders. That'd throw the so-called right for a loop! It'd encourage full-on unity among us Dems. And I think it would have some really broad appeal to everybody else. It would also solidify the Bernie Sanders agenda at the very top of the ziggurat. With Elizabeth Warren and hopefully an emboldened Sherrod Brown and Sheldon Whitehouse and whoever's gonna replace Barbara Boxer (probably Kamala Harris) and hopefully a return for Russ Feingold to the Senate - where he belongs, maybe we can finally shift the momentum back where it belongs. ON THE LEFT.
I don't think he has what it takes to win - especially financially. But if he and Hillary were to team up, I think they'd be a COLOSSUS. I think they'd be King Kong AND Godzilla, joined at the hip. And ALL we'd be talking about as a nation would be a LEFTWARD-LEANING agenda.