People wonder why I consider chiropractic to be quackery, here's another example.

[Archae]

From my e-mail:

California chiropractors opposing vaccination bill

Senate Bill 277, which would end California's "personal belief" exemption for 10 vaccines, has drawn opposition from at least two chiropractic organizations:

The California Chiropractic Association is actively lobbying against California Senate Bill 277, which would end the state's "personal belief" exemption against ten types of vaccinations now required to begin school. [Mason M. Chiropractors lobby against bill ending belief exemptions for vaccines. Los Angeles Times, March 5, 2015] CCA's Web site advises members to say that they are "NOT anti-vaccine we are pro-informed consent and choice."
Life Chiropractic College West sponsored a talk by Andrew Wakefield, who lost his British medical license for unprofessional conduct related to vaccine scaremongering. The San Francisco Chronicle has reported that he received standing ovations after he advised hundred of students that SB 277 was a step toward mandatory vaccination that could have dire consequences. The paper also noted that the school's president was considering hiring buses and canceling classes so students could attend a Senate hearing. [Allday E. Anti-vaccine leader tells parents to fight immunization bill. San Francisco Chronicle, April 25, 2015]

The pending bill was introduced in response to the recent outbreak of measles among children who had visited Disneyland. In a letter to the Los Angeles Times, William M. London, Ed.D., M.P.H., noted that mandatory childhood vaccination should be regarded as a social obligation rather than a matter of misinformed consumer choice.

Related article online:

http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-pc-vaccine-bill-chiropractors-20150305-story.html

[HERVEPA]

1. Can't agree more

But if you visit a chiropractor two times a week for the rest of your life to get our mind aligned perhaps your opinion will change.

[Orrex]

2. Chiropractors provide a valuable medical service

Just ask 'em; they'll tell you.

[Archae]

3. Of course. (Even though their "practice" is based on a 19th century belief...)

I have a sister who swears by Chiropractic.

I swear at Chiropractic.

[Orrex]

5. It ain't all it's cracked up to be.

Heigh-O!

[Marrah_G]

4. Until DU I had never heard of this

I always thought chiropractors were for helping to heal and gain motion again after an injury.

[Archae]

7. Sorry, no.

Chiropractic is based on a quack 19th century belief, and got it's current status due to political lobbying.
Whenever it's subjected to actual scientific discipline, it fails. EVERY time.

http://skepdic.com/chiro.html

[Marrah_G]

16. Not sure what you mean by "no"

Do you mean there is never a reason to go to a chiropractor, such as physical therapy or do you mean that no, not all chiropractor offices are ones for physical therapy.

I look at it like this: There are crackpot nutritionists out there, selling crap, but there are also very solid nutritionists out there helping to heal.

[Zorra]

6. A chiropractor did something wrong and hurt me in the early 80's, and for many years

I had sporadic pain in the upper right part of my back.

About 10 years ago the pain stopped.

But I never trusted chiropractic after that incident.

[HereSince1628]

8. Both the AMA and the chiropractic associations promote their industries.

Protecting business opportunity aka profit is part of the professional organizational structure.

People who get to dispense Rx's form industrial coalitions with pharmaceutical producers...for the purpose of promoting 'mutual interests' a component of which must always be profit.

The necessity of profitability, and the desire for greater and greater profitability is corrosive to the ideals all forms of for profit healthcare.

[Archae]

9. The AMA works on the principles of science. Chiropractic does not.

They rely on placebos and unfounded accusations, including the "Doctors are in cahoots against us."

[HereSince1628]

11. I'd say Medical research proabably more so than medical practice which is based on more than science

The practice of medicine has significant artisanal qualities which I think wouldn't completely discount the palliative value of placebos or the significance of the character of interpersonal relationships between the ill and the care provider.

It isn't my point to defend chiropractic or any form medicine mainstream or alternative. My point is simpler: motivations exist all across healthcare to limit or overcome competition, independent of whether understanding is based on empirical or idiot-logical evidence.

[Jesus Malverde]

15. The AMA represents business men

Duh.

Doctor worship is a fetish.

[shraby]

10. I owe my well being to a chiropractor. I was 2 years old and was dropped on my head by a

16 year old who was holding me..I lurched backward and she wasn't expecting it.
That fall left me horribly pigeon toed and I couldn't raise my head. The medical doctor told my parents that "that's the way I'd be."
They took me to a chiropractor and after a few years of adjustments, I was a normal kid. No pigeon toes and I could raise my head like normal.
Haven't needed one since, but I owe that man my life.

[Orrex]

13. Congratulations on your recovery!

It would be interesting to know what another medical doctor might have said, because the asshole who told your parents "that's the way it'll be" is a disgrace.

It would also be interesting to know what would have happened if you hadn't undergone any adjustments, but it's not as though we can run a lab on it, dropping 50 babies and comparing them years later to non-dropped babies...

[shraby]

19. This was about 70 years ago. Different world today. 70 years ago there weren't many options.

[FLPanhandle]

12. Chiropractors are charlatans with great marketing skills

There is a reason they don't go to medical school. Their entire field is non-scientific quackery.

[B2G]

14. Love mine

There are bad chiropractors, just like there are bad medical doctors out there.

Mine is awesome.

[ScreamingMeemie]

17. I liken chiropractors to massage therapists...

Therapeutic and if it works for you, I'm not going to shit on it because I'm a nice person who happens to get a lot of positive benefits out of massage.

That said, you DO know there are doctors out there who are anti-vax, right? Idiots are employed across the broad spectrum of employment opportunities.

[mythology]

18. Some chiropractors are good, some are bad

I've had mixed luck. The first one I went to did a lot of good for my back. I went to one when I was learning handsprings (which due to the landing position is rough on the spine) which really helped keep my back in proper alignment (of course so might not learning handsprings at age 33).

But I'd run like hell from any chiropractor who suggested that they could cure cancer or that vaccines are a bad idea.