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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:08 PM May 2015

Things that aren't going to happen in the U.S.

in the forseeable future:

1) A Constitutional Amendment declaring that life begins the second that little sperm hits the ovum.

2) A Constitutional Amendment overturning Citizens United or one that makes elections publicly financed.

3) A reduction in the Defense Department budget

4) Federal gun control legislation

5) Single Payer Healthcare coverage

6) a reduction in the income gap between the very wealthy and everyone else.


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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
4. You're probably right.
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:17 PM
May 2015

That's too bad. However, if we elect Democrats to office, we'll make progress, nevertheless. But it means electing substantial Democratic majorities in Congress and in state legislatures, as well. Without those, no President will be able to get progressive things accomplished.

For all of those things, our legislators are far more important than the President. We constantly seem to forget that, to our detriment.

As long as we let Republicans win majorities in legislative bodies, all of your points will not happen. As long as we fail to follow through during mid-term elections and continue electing Democrats, we will lose over the long term.

We focus far too hard on the President. Important as Presidents are, they have limited power to make changes. If we don't support them with Democratic legislatures, we still lose. If we elect Democrats to control state and federal legislatures, we can change anything. I don't understand why we don't recognize that and behave accordingly.

malthaussen

(17,184 posts)
8. Neither do I,
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:29 PM
May 2015

... but I suspect it has something to do with the way our culture glamorizes celebraties and likes to reduce everything to personalities.

-- Mal

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. Checks the sky for pigs and
Fri May 8, 2015, 03:21 PM
May 2015

Hell for ice freezing

To your list I would only add city councils and board of supervisors, where future state and federal legislators are honed.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. I disagree. We have the best chance we ever
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:21 PM
May 2015

had since Reagan to turn around the March to the right.
1. We could very well elect a Dem President and Senate in 2016.
2. The next Predident could possibly name 4 Supreme Court Justices in the next eight years. That would give us a liberal court for the next 30 years.
5.We could win back the house with the rising minority population of voters becoming a manority.
6. Even Wall Street knows that income inequality is not sustainable.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. that sounds awfully pie-in-the-sky
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:28 PM
May 2015

We may elect a dem President, the odds are stacked against electing a dem Senate, particularly in light of Reid's recent decision not to run.

Yes, the SCOTUS is a point, but one thing about SCOTUS appointments is that they have a history of surprising us.

The odds of winning back the House in the next 2 or three cycles are slim.

Wall Street doesn't give a shit, by and large. They are still pushing the same disastrous crap.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. so is ... being like denmark. but, wtf huh cali? lets give it a try. or EVEN electing a socialist
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:32 PM
May 2015
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. how many times have I said I don't expect Bernie to win, seaby?
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:57 PM
May 2015

I've only posted that dozens of times including OPs, sea.

That's not why I'm supporting him.

I'd explain it to you, but it's not worth the bother.



ta-ta

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
11. I expect him to win...we are underground after all, right?!
Fri May 8, 2015, 02:50 PM
May 2015

If for no other reason than the bully pulpit..our climate is deteriorating as we speak. We need voter registration drives, get people involved...I don't think we have a lot of time left.

Initech

(100,059 posts)
17. I'm willing to bet good money that AM hate radio plays a lot into House and Senate elections .
Fri May 8, 2015, 04:41 PM
May 2015

It sucks but as long as people keep listening to scumbags like Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck, there will always be people who vote in favor of the freepers and teabaggers.

malthaussen

(17,184 posts)
6. I'd add 7) An Equal Rights Amendment
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:27 PM
May 2015

And, overall 8) Any reduction in people hating each other for no rational reason.

-- Mal

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
15. Unfortunately the entire system is
Fri May 8, 2015, 03:22 PM
May 2015

going to have to collapse before anything humane can be built upon the ruins of predatory capitalism. But at the rate the billionaire class is going that should take no more than 20-30 years. It WILL collapse.

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