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Its a given Bernie will win New England states in the primaries (Original Post) redstateblues May 2015 OP
He's a candidate for rich, white college kids in the Northeast and the Midwest bluestateguy May 2015 #1
Jeez, that's the same base Ralph Nader tapped into back in the daze Brother Buzz May 2015 #2
That is total bullshit, but you probably know that. Shit stirring. HERVEPA May 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #6
I'm certainly not rich, donf May 2015 #8
Yes, yes, yes! Art_from_Ark May 2015 #12
Why wouldn't poc back Bernie? Why assume labor wouldn't? Ken Burch May 2015 #13
I would think that in general, women and LGBTQ support would largely go to Clinton over Sanders mythology May 2015 #17
I think you are wrong on that. Even the uneducated worker and the poor know a good candidate jwirr May 2015 #20
He will have to compeat against Hillary, Webb and O'Malley for the New England states, Thinkingabout May 2015 #3
It's way too early to make any meaningful predictions about who will take which primaries. winter is coming May 2015 #5
it's not a given at all, if he is serious he would put most of his focus into iowa JI7 May 2015 #7
He's way behind Hillary in New Hampshire right now. pnwmom May 2015 #9
It's one of your fellow HRC supporters starting a "Bernie fails if he can't sweep New England" meme Ken Burch May 2015 #14
not at all a given. Did Howard Dean? No. cali May 2015 #10
It depends on how successful he is in stirring up the populist movement. bobGandolf May 2015 #11
Hard to imagine him winning in Rhode Island hack89 May 2015 #15
That is not at all a given. MineralMan May 2015 #16
Bernie Sanders will not win a single state alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #18
LOL, it would be a miracle if he won Vermont. "A given"...LOL tritsofme May 2015 #19

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. He's a candidate for rich, white college kids in the Northeast and the Midwest
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:10 AM
May 2015

Beyond that his base doesn't go very far.

Response to bluestateguy (Reply #1)

donf

(87 posts)
8. I'm certainly not rich,
Sat May 9, 2015, 02:02 AM
May 2015

I'm hardly a kid (I'm 54), but I am from Ohio. I have sent a first payment to the Sanders campaign, and I will volunteer for the campaign as soon as possible. I'm a lifelong democrat, and I have never been so enthusiastic about a candidate for president. I truly believe that I am representative of Bernie Sanders' base. We are many, we are diverse, we are enthusiastic, and we are in it to win it. I think we may surprise a lot of you.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
13. Why wouldn't poc back Bernie? Why assume labor wouldn't?
Sat May 9, 2015, 05:26 AM
May 2015

He should be able to get heavy LGBTQ support and significant backing from non-millionaire women as well.

There's no reason to assume rigid demographic limits to Bernie's appeal.

HRC has nothing special to offer anyone on the issues...just the inevitability myth.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
17. I would think that in general, women and LGBTQ support would largely go to Clinton over Sanders
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:48 AM
May 2015

There is a long history of her support for those two groups, particularly during her time as Secretary of State.

I think Sanders could make inroads among people of color as you noted, especially if there are residual hard feelings after the 2008 primary campaign. But I don't know if Sanders can bring out the youth and as much of the African American vote as Obama did in the primaries as Sanders isn't as inherently charismatic as Obama is.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
20. I think you are wrong on that. Even the uneducated worker and the poor know a good candidate
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:01 AM
May 2015

when they see him/her.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. He will have to compeat against Hillary, Webb and O'Malley for the New England states,
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:22 AM
May 2015

doubt he will win more than one.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
5. It's way too early to make any meaningful predictions about who will take which primaries.
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:52 AM
May 2015

Although I'm sure Hillary will appreciate your conceding the Northeast to another candidate months before a single ballot has been cast.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
7. it's not a given at all, if he is serious he would put most of his focus into iowa
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:59 AM
May 2015

for now while putting some effort into states that vote next and will get attention such as new hampshire and south carolina.

but he needs an iowa win to have a chance in other states .

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
9. He's way behind Hillary in New Hampshire right now.
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:44 AM
May 2015

And New Hampshire voters are well acquainted with the Senator from the state-next-door.

So why do you think it's a given he will win New England?

http://www.necn.com/news/politics/Latest-New-Hampshire-2016-Primary-Polls-Released-303001711.html

According to the University of New Hampshire/WMUR's Granite State Poll, Hillary Clinton is still the favorite among Democratic primary voters, but her lead has started to lag in recent months, with 73 percent having a favorable opinion of the former Secretary of State and 15 percent with an unfavorable opinion, giving her a net favorability rating of 58 percent.

Her only announced primary opponent, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, has a moderate favorability rating with potential primary voters, the poll found, with a net favorability rating of 34 percent; however, it's still behind Massachusetts' U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who commands a net favorability rating of 53 percent. Warren has not indicated she will run, despite vocal urging on behalf of her supporters.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
14. It's one of your fellow HRC supporters starting a "Bernie fails if he can't sweep New England" meme
Sat May 9, 2015, 05:30 AM
May 2015

Not sure why you guys are so obsessed with stopping Bernie's candidacy immediately.

It doesn't harm anything if he actually stays in through the primaries.

bobGandolf

(871 posts)
11. It depends on how successful he is in stirring up the populist movement.
Sat May 9, 2015, 05:22 AM
May 2015

If Bernie can tap into the populist lion he could ignite the fire of frustration, and anger of the American people. Early on, he needs to channel that anger, and frustration against the other candidates who all are the status quo. As we saw with President Obama during his first election, the American people are ready, and willing, to back someone who will fight for the little guy.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
16. That is not at all a given.
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:42 AM
May 2015

Not by a long shot. I'm not sure what basis you're using for the statement, but I can't find any support for it. He might win a primary or two in that region, but it's not certain by any means.

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