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AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
Sat May 9, 2015, 05:13 AM May 2015

How do you talk about climate change to people who are more worried about the rapture?

After all, why would they care about climate change and preserving the future of life on earth and the human race if they care more about going to heaven?

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How do you talk about climate change to people who are more worried about the rapture? (Original Post) AZ Progressive May 2015 OP
Trying to have rational discussions with irrational people never gets far. hobbit709 May 2015 #1
I used to be one of them Bradical79 May 2015 #2
I would reverse that order. What is real is less of a priority for Rapturists. Tell them Kip Humphrey May 2015 #6
It's not just "going to heaven..." Scootaloo May 2015 #3
why would you? reddread May 2015 #4
You don't HERVEPA May 2015 #5
You can't reason with them Ron Obvious May 2015 #7
Yep. Reason vs faith = even more entrenched faith Bonx May 2015 #10
Sell it to them Segami May 2015 #8
You'd have better luck pipi_k May 2015 #9
And that is a big part of our economic problems. Not just the rapture but the end times. They see jwirr May 2015 #11
Well, any of the sincere ones welcome it. raouldukelives May 2015 #12
Sounds like a plan Dirty Socialist May 2015 #14
imo that 'rapture' and most of the 'jehadists' are similar in they are suicidal, not self-suicide. Sunlei May 2015 #13
Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. Thomas Paine Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #15
After they are raptured DawgHouse May 2015 #16

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. Trying to have rational discussions with irrational people never gets far.
Sat May 9, 2015, 05:25 AM
May 2015

"Belief gets in the way of thinking"

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
2. I used to be one of them
Sat May 9, 2015, 05:42 AM
May 2015

but I really don't know. It's a 2 step process of first convincing them it's real, then convincing them it's important.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
6. I would reverse that order. What is real is less of a priority for Rapturists. Tell them
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:34 AM
May 2015

the devil will win Armageddon if it gets too hot!

x + =

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. It's not just "going to heaven..."
Sat May 9, 2015, 06:26 AM
May 2015

They actually believe the destruction of the world is a GOOD THING, a sign of the coming of Jesus.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
4. why would you?
Sat May 9, 2015, 06:48 AM
May 2015

its bad enough that reasonable citizens have no clue how long GREENHOUSE GASES have been understood to have their effects.
Thirty years ago the problems were well understood and being taught in my college courses.
What happened then is what happened across the board- Reagan/Bush and their enablers shut down science, education and media
with hooks and crooks.
the utter disaster we face today is because of this, and nothing else.
We should all hope for the Rapture, because what we have been stuck with
is the end of life as we knew it.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
7. You can't reason with them
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:58 AM
May 2015

You can't reason people out of positions they haven't reasoned themselves into in the first place.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
8. Sell it to them
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:03 AM
May 2015

as an undiscovered, prime beach front property opportunity off the coast of California that will become available sooner than expected.



jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. And that is a big part of our economic problems. Not just the rapture but the end times. They see
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:30 AM
May 2015

no reason to fix anything because it will all be a waste of time. Imagine the world if the early church had that idea.

They have forgotten to read the part of the Bible that tells them they are not supposed to set and wait. They are to get to work making the world a better place. Instead they have joined the evil in making it worse.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
12. Well, any of the sincere ones welcome it.
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:51 AM
May 2015

The only way I generally address it is that the world is God's creation. And not just the world, everything we know and don't know.
Every plant, every creature, every bit of stardust, all created by God.

They are all important to the creator. When we despoil & destroy what was created, we are destroying the work of God. Destroying Eden. Being the worst kind of shepherds imaginable to what were entrusted with.

If it were me, and I came back and saw this, I'd be pissed too. Especially at the ones who did it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. imo that 'rapture' and most of the 'jehadists' are similar in they are suicidal, not self-suicide.
Sat May 9, 2015, 11:56 AM
May 2015

They want to take others with them.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
15. Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. Thomas Paine
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:47 PM
May 2015

i.e. "God is the author of everything and it's His plan to kill everybody for their own good."

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
16. After they are raptured
Sat May 9, 2015, 02:11 PM
May 2015

there will be a new heaven and earth so there's no reason to preserve the current life on earth.

In other words, you can't talk them about climate change.

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