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Most PROGRESSIVE President in U.S. History! (Original Post) FarLeftFist May 2012 OP
FDR was the most Progressive, but Obama is the most gay-friendly. And yes, Obama 2012! n/t Ian David May 2012 #1
FDR put American citizens in internment camps and the New Deal excluded blacks and women. FarLeftFist May 2012 #4
You make some good points, and there are hours of debate to be had on the topic. n/t Ian David May 2012 #6
Pretty sure you just went from making a declarative statement about how DFab420 May 2012 #8
I think it's called being gracious - TBF May 2012 #11
I read it to mean that he doesn't have time to get into it. Quantess May 2012 #17
No. But I am conceding you make some good points. n/t Ian David May 2012 #18
Admitting something is debatable is not a 100% concession. A Simple Game May 2012 #19
WHAT??? Hardly. nt Kahuna May 2012 #24
Most PROGRESSIVE President in U.S. History! Pab Sungenis May 2012 #2
I think I would have placed Sherman A1 May 2012 #5
Wilson with his Palmer raids? Yeah, fantastic. I'll stick w/Obama. nt TBF May 2012 #12
The important thing is, are you happy now? n/t Ian David May 2012 #7
How do you figure Wilson? UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #13
that's a bit of an overstament. bowens43 May 2012 #3
That's a bit of a reach, but he's the right guy for us right now. boxman15 May 2012 #9
That's a pretty low bar to get over. n/t Dawgs May 2012 #10
Now that is the most accurate statement in this entire thread. nt TBF May 2012 #14
Calling Obama progressive at all is intentionally ridiculous. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #15
This is true. nt Poll_Blind May 2012 #20
I live in New York State. I have known Republicans that were much more A Simple Game May 2012 #22
I hadn't noticed Obama's support of gay marraige before I posted that. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #25
He is coming our way though, slow but sure (I hope). n/t A Simple Game May 2012 #27
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #16
Yeah, I think so, but he's not as progressive as I'd like... cynatnite May 2012 #21
FDR, Wilson, Taft... in that order. LanternWaste May 2012 #23
If you are just talking about marriage equality... white_wolf May 2012 #26

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
4. FDR put American citizens in internment camps and the New Deal excluded blacks and women.
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:33 PM
May 2012

While FDR definitely WAS Progressive for his time, I would easily say Pres. O is MORE Progressive than FDR. No such divisiveness coming from Obama.

DFab420

(2,466 posts)
8. Pretty sure you just went from making a declarative statement about how
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:39 PM
May 2012

much more progressive FDR was to saying "there are hours of debate" of who is more progressive......

Kneejerk posts sometimes come back with a bit of whiplash huh?

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
17. I read it to mean that he doesn't have time to get into it.
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:50 PM
May 2012

I mean, where does one start with an OP like that? It's like saying Freedom is Free!

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
19. Admitting something is debatable is not a 100% concession.
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:13 PM
May 2012

It's called being open minded. Don't let it bother you, that's a liberal thing, some people have a hard time with it.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
13. How do you figure Wilson?
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:44 PM
May 2012

He took us into WWI.

And then there's this:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#section_3

Much of the modern Klan's iconography, including the standardized white costume and the lighted cross, are derived from the film. Its imagery was based on Dixon's romanticized concept of old England and Scotland, as portrayed in the novels and poetry of Sir Walter Scott. The film's influence and popularity were enhanced by a widely reported endorsement by historian and U.S. President Woodrow Wilson.

The Birth of a Nation included extensive quotations from Woodrow Wilson's History of the American People, as if to give it a stronger basis. After seeing the film in a special White House screening, Wilson allegedly said, "It is like writing history with lightning, and my only regret is that it is all so terribly true." Wilson's remarks immediately became controversial. Wilson tried to remain aloof, but finally, on April 30, he issued a non-denial denial. Wilson's aide, Joseph Tumulty said, "the President was entirely unaware of the nature of the play before it was presented and at no time has expressed his approbation of it."

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
9. That's a bit of a reach, but he's the right guy for us right now.
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:39 PM
May 2012

He's the most progressive president we've had in decades and he's moving this country forward at a rate I haven't seen in my lifetime. I'm so proud to have him as our president, and I look forward to voting for him again in November.

OBAMA 2012!

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
22. I live in New York State. I have known Republicans that were much more
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:21 PM
May 2012

liberal than President Obama ever will be.

But I applaud this and many of his more recent moves. He's probably going to make me vote for him.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
25. I hadn't noticed Obama's support of gay marraige before I posted that.
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:43 PM
May 2012

So I will give him creds for that. A very ballsy move in an election year.

I'm still angry with him over quite a few other issues though.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
21. Yeah, I think so, but he's not as progressive as I'd like...
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:16 PM
May 2012

No other president, including President Clinton, would ever take this position.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. FDR, Wilson, Taft... in that order.
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:22 PM
May 2012

FDR, Wilson, Taft... in that order.

(and before I get slapped with a bumper sticker, I'm taking each one's *entire* presidency, en-toto into account-- both foreign and domestic policy, rather than merely one or two dramatic issues in order to trivialize the rest of the their terms...)

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
26. If you are just talking about marriage equality...
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:44 PM
May 2012

then yes he is probably the most progressive on that issue. However,when you factor into account that he is to the right of several past Republican presidents on economic issues, the fact that the cornerstone of his Healthcare reform bill was thought up by the Heritage Foundation, his signing of the Patriot Act extensions, his use of drone assassinations, well it seems like he a center-right president who is progressive on one issue.

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