cops caught on audio making up reason for arresting man after they arrested him

[Liberal_in_LA]

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/hidden-camera-catches-nypd-cops-arresting-man-no-reason-making-purpose-stopping-himHidden Camera Catches NYPD Cops Arresting Man For No Reason, Making Up Purpose for Stopping

He continues to ask why he’s being arrested. The cops continue to ignore his question.

The camera keeps rolling as they take the man away, then return to search his vehicle further, not realizing the camera is recording. While an officer rifles through the driver’s belongings, he moves the phone, blocking the lens in the process, but the audio remains clear.

There’s silence for about two minutes until two officers return to the vehicle. What the officers can be heard saying next is incredible.

Cop 1: “I don’t even know why we pulled him over…he keeps saying what’s the reason why you pulled me over”

Cop 2: “Just put “Cocaine Test”


Cop 1: “That’s what you put”

You can hear the officers laughing about it as they open the door, grab the phone and stop the recording, realizing they’ve just been caught.

New York’s finest, ladies and gentleman.
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/hidden-camera-catches-nypd-cops-arresting-man-no-reason-making-purpose-stopping-him

[okaawhatever]

1. Big K & R nt

[Logical]

2. How these cops keep their job is beyond me. Police "union" defends them I am sure. Assholes! nt

[Vincardog]

9. I wish all unions were as successful at defending their members.

[zentrum]

29. Good point.

[mythology]

35. I don't

These guys should have been fired for a number of things. Unions should protect their members, but not from gross misconduct.

[Vincardog]

42. It's their function to defend their members. If you are arguing for more oversight and maybe

Criminal sanctions for criminal acts committed under color of law; That is the system's problem not the /fault of or responsibility / of the union.

[awoke_in_2003]

52. I hadn't thought of it before

but the one union that isn't under constant attack from the wealthy are the police unions- the ones that protect the people oppressing us.

[atreides1]

56. I noticed that sometime ago

When Walker started his attacks on the other public worker unions in Wisconsin, he conveniently made sure that those unions representing first responders were not targeted!

You're only the second person to get it, as far as I've seen.

The wealthy, like the Roman Emperors need their Praetorian guard...and who better to provide that service then a paramilitary force that can be found in all 50 states, and are part of law enforcement!

[Faux pas]

3. ...

Assholes that is all.

[libdem4life]

4. False arrest. Maybe DeBlasio will rethink his sudden conversion to the nice officers at the NYPD.

I hope that young man sues for false arrest...And gets at least $100 for his troubles and the humiliation of being arrested.

[dixiegrrrrl]

5. top link = "page not found"

bottom link works.

[Jefferson23]

6. It goes on and on, doesn't it..what a train wreck. K&R

[MohRokTah]

7. And the myth of the "good cop" continues to be debunked. eom

[gcomeau]

8. Oh FFS.

Instances of bad cops, no matter HOW NUMEROUS, do not prove the non-existence of good cops.

Do grow up. I've personally encountered several good cops.

[MohRokTah]

11. Actually, they DO

The allegedly "good cops" ALWAYS back up the bad cops.

That makes them ALL bad cops.

[gcomeau]

12. Sigh...

http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/01/good-cop-files-lawsuit-against-corrupt-department-that-told-him-if-you-snitch-your-career-is-done/

And your claim is dis-proven. The above is hardly the only instance of this kind of thing occurring.

Argument over.

[Jackpine Radical]

13. As William James famously observed, you only need one white crow to prove

that not all crows are black.

I will add, however, that the discovery of the one white crow doesn't alter the fact that the overwhelming majority of them are black.

[LanternWaste]

59. What is the precise percentage, and on what objective measure is that number based off?

"overwhelming majority of them are black."

What is the precise percentage, and on what objective measure is that number based off?

[Jackpine Radical]

61. Sorry, all 11 species of Corvidae are grouped together.

THE INCIDENCE OF ALBINISM IN NORTH AMERICAN BIRDS
by ALFRED O. GROSS
Over eighty years ago Ruthyen Deane (1876, 1879 and 1880)
compiled about a hundred cases of albinism, all that were known to
him. Since that time many more records have appeared in the
literature and numerous albinistic specimens have been accumulated
in museums and private collections of birds. I have also obtained
records from personal observations and many others through correspondence.
I am indebted to C. Chandler Ross (1962) for records
of several species contained in his recent report. Altogether there are
304 albinistic species represented by 1847 individuals. There are
records of albinism in each of the 20 orders and 54 of the 75 families
of North American birds. This list is adequate to reveal the approximate
incidence of albinism in the different orders, families
and species. I know of no better way to answer the important question
of incidence. It is of course well known that certain species are
more susceptible than others to abnormal plumages such as albinism
but to what extent has been merely a guess based on a too limited
number of observations.
The 54 families in which albinism have occurred are listed in
Table I. In Table II there are 28 species in which there are 15 or
more records each. There are among the 28 species a total of 952
records of albinism comprising 51.54 per cent of the 1847 compiled.
The remainder of the 276 species are represented by 895 cases of
albinism. Of the latter there were 99 species with only one instance
of albinism each, 46 with 2, 41 with 3, 27 with 4, 45 with 5, 12 with
6, 8 with 7, 8 with 8, 3 with 9, 4 •vith 10, 4 with 11, 3 with 13, 1
with 13 and 2 with 14 records each.
The Robin (Turdus migratorius) with 152 records of albinism
representing 8.22% and the House Sparrow (Passer domesticus) with
104 records of 5.53% stand out above all others as the two species
with the greatest incidence of albinism. However, the large number
of records may be due in part to the close association of these two
birds with the habitat of man where any abnormal plumage is likely
to be seen and reported. Likewise the large number of albinos among
the game birds Anatidae, in which there were 155 records, is due in
part to sportsmen who bag albinos and usually call attention to
what they consider as valuable records as well as unique curiosities.
Albinos may be classified into four groups: 1. total or pure, 2.
incomplete, 3. imperfect, 4. partial. In the case of total or pure
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68] Alfred O. Gross Bird-Banding April
TABLE I. FIFTY-FOUR FAMILIES OF NORTH AMERICAN BIRDS IN WHICH ALBINISM
OCCURRED IN THE 1847 RECORDS COMPILED. COLUMN 1 THE NUMBER OF SPECIES,
COLUMN 2 THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS.
Number of Number of
Families species individuals
Gaviidae: Loons 2 5
Podicipedidae: Grebes 5 11
Procellariidae: Shearwaters, Fulmars 3 7
Sulidae: Boobies and Gannets 1 1
Phalacrocoracidae: Cormorants 2 4
Ardeidae: Herons and Bitterns 6 12
Threskiornithidae: Ibises and Spoonbills 2 5
Anatidae: Swans, Geese and Ducks 35 155
Cathartidae: American Vultures 2 12
Accipitridae: Hawks, Old World Vultures and Harriers 10 48
Falconidac: Caracaras and Falcons 4 5
Tetraonidae: Grouse and Ptarmigan 6 32
Phasianidae: Quail, Pheasants, and Peacocks 8 99
Meleagrididae: Turkeys 1 8
Gruidae: Cranes 1 2
Railidac: Rails, Gallinules and Coots 5 19
ttaematopodidae: Oystercatchers 1 1
Charadriidae: Plovers, Turnstones and Surfbirds 2 4
Scolopacidae: Woodcock, Snipe, and Sandpipers 17 39
Recurvirostridae: Avocets and Stilts 2 2
Phalaropodidae: Phalaropes 1 1
Stercorariidae: Jaegers and Skuas 1 3
Laridae: Gulls and Terns 10 33
Alcidae: Auks, Murres, and Puffins 7 27
Columbidae: Pigeons and Doves 2 5
Psittacidae: Lories, Parrots, and Macaws i 1
Cuculidae: Cuckoos, Roadrunners, and Anis 3 9
Strigidae: Typical Owls 5 9
Caprimulgidae: Goatsuckers 2 5
Apodidae: Swifts i 6
Trochilidae: Hummingbirds 4 16
Trogonidae: Trogons i 1
Alcedinidae: Kingfishers i 3
Picidae: Woodpeckers 10 48
Tyrannidae: Tyrant Flycatchers 11 30
Alaudidae: Larks 2 5
Hirundinidae: Swallows 8 67
Corvidae: Jays, Magpies and Crows 11 116
Paridae: Titmice, Verdins, and Bushtits 3 16
Sittidae: Nuthatches 2 6
Troglodytidae: Wrens 3 6
Mimidae: Mockingbirds and Thrashers 4 73
Turdidae: Thrushes, Solitaires, and Bluebirds 14 214
Sylviidae: Old World Warblers, Gnatcatchers and
Kinglets 1 6
Motacillidae: Wagtails and Pipits 3 9
Bombcyillidae: Waxwings 2 8
Laniidae: Shrikes 1 1
Sturnidae: Starlings 1 12
Vireonidae: Vireos 1 1
Parulidae: Wood Warblers 11 31
Ploceidae: Weaver Finches 2 109
Icteridae: Meadowlarks, Blackbirds and Troupials 16 188
Thraupidae: Tanagers 2 15
Fringillidae: Grosbeaks, Finches, Sparrows and
Buntings 42 296

[IronLionZion]

62. Racist!

[MohRokTah]

14. 1 good cop in the entire country.

Exception proves the rule.

[gcomeau]

16. It's not one genius.

If you seriously think that I just in 5 seconds managed to find the only instance of a good cop in THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES you are a child.

[MohRokTah]

17. I don't for a minute believe even that cop is a mythical "good cop"

That cop put up wiht shit prior to filing suit.

That cop is no better than any of the other bad cops. His conscience got the ebtter of him and he's now trying to make right, but he looked away for a time before changing his mind.

Good cops are mythical beings like unicorns.

[gcomeau]

19. Oh, you're telepathic now are you?

How fascinating. We're done talking since I have no interest in debating the issue with someone who is incapable of dealing with the topic rationally.

[MohRokTah]

21. No, he did not immediately arrest the corrupt cops.

He was most definitely a bad cop because he did not arrest his fellows for their lawbreaking.

Good cops are as mythical as dragons.

[gcomeau]

22. He followed process.

Which was to report them.

[MohRokTah]

23. HE saw laws being broken. PRocedure would dictate an arrest.

He chose not to.

He's as bad as those cops were.

[libdem4life]

31. Did you actually watch It All? How many "good cops" did we count on that video? I read

a longer version and it cost him his job. Why? Because of things like rats on his wife's car, no one would back him up in dangerous situations...and a few more and other disgusting "juvenile pranks". If that's your weak example of a good cop...that telling the truth will lose you your job...there is no argument.

[gcomeau]

32. One disproves the claim that there are none.

And if anyone thinks that's the only good cop in the entire world, or even the entire country, they're a child whose view of the world belongs in the pages of comic books.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

41. Why did he observe the commission of crimes and not place the criminals under immediate arrest? nt

[libdem4life]

43. Yes, one does a trend make. The entire world/entire country ?????? Overreact much?

Unfortunately, losing one's job over it was not the greatest example to the stated premise.

[villager]

51. Actually, the above is one of the *very few instances* of that kind of thing occurring.

Argument over.

[frylock]

53. so the good cops are being drummed out..

and this supports your theory how?

[truedelphi]

26. Mok Rok Tahi, I have to agree with you. n/t

[gopiscrap]

39. I totally agree

all cops are arrogant fucking asshole pigs, socially mal-adjusted and fucked up power hungry shit stains on society. The few that didn't enter the police that way-soon become so!!!

[riqster]

54. "Always"? Horse-fucking-shit.

Helpful hint: Exaggeration is not a good debating tactic.

100% slanders like the one you just posted undermine the reform process.

[MohRokTah]

55. Always! eom

[Mariana]

15. How do you know they were good cops?

Unless you know how they behave ALL THE TIME while they're on the job, no matter who they're dealing with, you have no idea if a given cop is a good one or a bad one.

If I ever see a cop arrest another cop on the spot for brutality, filing a false report, or some other such crime against a suspect or bystander, I'll be pretty convinced that the arresting officer is a good cop. There should be lots of examples of this happening, but I don't know of a single one.

[MohRokTah]

18. I'm wiht you there.

I used to believe the vast majority of cops were good.

The ubiquitous nature of video cameras in phones these days has proved I've been lying to myself about cops my entire life. There isn't a good cop in the bunch. They all back up the bad cops, so they're all bad.

When I see a video of a cop who immediately arrests his partner for brutality, I'll alter my opinion.

[F4lconF16]

20. The Problem is the Barrel

http://socialistworker.org/2015/01/06/the-problem-is-the-barrel

"A FEW bad apples." That's what gets tossed around in many discussions about police brutality. It's not that all police are bad, just a few of them.

But is it true? Is police violence just a matter of a few bad apples? Because if that's the case, it stands to reason that we could weed out the bad ones, the out-of-control crazies. The government could require intensive retraining to make police understand that they are supposed to "serve and protect" the public--all the public. We could come up with checks and balances, so any cop who did step out of line would be punished.

But it isn't just the case of a few bad apples that need to be picked out of the barrel. The whole barrel is the problem.

...snip...

When the order came to crack down, the individual police didn't get a say-so in the decision, and they couldn't opt out of carrying out an order, even if they didn't agree with it. Some cops acted sadistically in carrying out their orders--for example, spraying pepper spray directly in the faces of protesters--and others didn't, but no cop could not choose not to use pepper spray or otherwise inflict violence on demonstrators once the order came to crack down.

There may be an individual who is a good person. But their purpose cannot by the definition and purpose of police in capitalism be good. Period. They are here to oppress, and oppress they shall, good people or not.

[msongs]

33. Nuremburg: following orders is not a defense nt

[F4lconF16]

34. +1 good point nt

[BillZBubb]

50. In Nuremburg it wasn't. In the US of A for cops, the NSA, CIA and the military it is.

[gopiscrap]

40. Totally agree!

[libdem4life]

44. and the natural progression after iii is to act in that manner beyond the law. It's human nature,

especially when there are no consequences.

[A HERETIC I AM]

47. Exactly

As mentioned in a post above. It isn't that there are a few bad apples in the barrel, it's that the entire barrel is poisoned, corrosive and corrupted.

[libdem4life]

48. It's basically a secret society...the Fraternal Order of Police is not a Union name. The Silent

Blue Line. Snitch, and you're gone. There's a "good cop" story on here...he got harassed and isolated until he finally quit. If you quit, you don't get unemployment and probably a reduced if any pension. If they fire you, you get unemployment. It's an old tactic from way back.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

60. Absolutely! Very well said.

[gcomeau]

63. That quote might very well be...

...the single stupidest thing I've read all year. And that takes some doing.

So how is it *supposed* to work in the world of Dr. Robert Higgs?

Are we supposed to not enforce any laws at all because people may not like some of them... therefore making law enforcement only for evil people? So let's just forget laws?

Or... are we supposed to tell law enforcement officers that every one of then now has the authority to decide for themselves which laws to enforce and which to ignore? Forget that whole legislative branch government thing, just let the cops make up the laws themselves! Then some of them could choose to enforce only "good" ones and be good cops! Yay! How do you see that working out?

Or is there some fairy tale third option I'm missing?

[gcomeau]

65. Oh I read massive amounts actually.

A just society should endeavor to ensure all laws are indeed, just.

Quite true.

But a human society, in the real fucking world, is going to have disagreements over what "just" is. Care to offer any argument to the contrary... that all human beings in a society always agree on what just laws should say?


Because if you have no argument to establish that, then my response stands.

"Defend cops all you want,"

I'm not "defending cops". I am entirely in agreement that there is a huge police corruption problem in this country.

That does not however translate into the cartoonishly juvenile statement that no good cops exist because you disagree with some of the laws they are responsible for enforcing. Laws passed by a democratically elected legislative body. If you don't like the laws, do something abut THAT. Don't declare that all people responsible for enforcing them immediately become evil the instant a law you don't like is on the books. That kind of thinking is for 6 year old libertarians.

[gcomeau]

67. Oh no need to remind me.

I confined my first response specifically to criticizing Dr. Higgs.

But then you defended the statement. Then it became yours too. That's how that works.

Of course they are. Some will be religiously based. Some will be based on race or skin tone. Some rules will be based on where you were born or who your parents were. And some will be downright evil whose point is merely to extract money from innocent people, etc. And the people that enforce such laws are taking that evil unto themselves, if you will pardon the biblical soundng prose.

See? You just did it again.


So now I ask YOU, instead of asking Dr. Higgs.


How is society supposed to work in your mind? Are all law enforcement officials supposed to quit their jobs the instant a law you disagree with is put on the books... otherwise they become evil? So the instant a democratically elected assembly passes a law you don't like the choices are "all cops become evil, or we abandon the enforcement of all laws?


Or are we supposed to grant police officers the authority to dictate which laws they enforce all by themselves, thus granting them the power to supercede the democratically elected government at will? And that was we could at least have some percentage of them deciding to enforce only the laws you like, and we could allow them the label of "good cops"?


Or, is there a third utopian option in your mind?

[gcomeau]

69. Oh yes, please nitpick instead of dealing with the central issue.

Yes, because this entire, NATIONWIDE conversation boils down to what I don't like.

Fine, laws you personally consider evil.

If you are in the position of enforcing an inherently unjust law, you become unjust and therefore part of the problem.

You're just restating your claim while avoiding the question. What are those law enforcement officials supposed TO DO ABOUT IT?

Quit? No more law enforcement?

This happens all the time, every single day.

Again, avoiding the question. IS THAT WHAT YOU OFFICIALLY ADVOCATE?

That law enforcement officials SHOULD BE ABLE to pick and choose which laws will be enforced and which will not? That they SHOULD make themselves the supreme legislative authority in the country?

[gcomeau]

71. Uh-huh...

Translation, you can't answer the questions so are bugging out.

[gcomeau]

73. Sure it's not...

You've been avoiding answering the question from the very first post, but the reason you're not answering it now is because you're getting bored.

Of course it is.

You could have expended half the effort just answering the question that you've chosen instead to expend on explanations and excuses for why you're not answering it... if you had an answer of course... but yeah, it's just because you're bored.

[gcomeau]

75. Wow...

Before diving into that entire rambling rant, which I'll do in a seperate reply (and please spare me the demands I not respond. If you don't want me to reply to your posts don't reply to mine, see how simple that is?) let's pause for a moment to appreciate this example of comedy gold of you asking me if I can read English while pulling this...

First, since you appear not to know, the definition of the word "bore". (I am going to assume you did not mean to use it in the sense that I was drilling a hole in you)

bore
transitive verb
: to cause to feel boredom


Now in case you couldn't follow that... if someone bores you then they cause you to BE BORED. That's what that statement means. (Or, they drill a hole in you). So if someone bores you then YOU ARE BORED. Just like if someone drills you then you are drilled. If someone spanks you then you are spanked. If someone licks you then you are licked. If someone screws you then you are screwed. If someone passes you then you are passed. If someone... well, if you haven't caught onto the pattern yet then continuing the remedial English lesson isn't going to help...



Now let's review...

You: "YOU HAVE BEGUN TO BORE THE EVER LIVING FUCK OUT OF ME."

Me: "You've been avoiding answering the question from the very first post, but the reason you're not answering it now is because you're getting bored.

Of course it is. "

You: Are you incapable of reading clearly written English? Or are you just stupid?

...

I never said I was bored. I said;

"YOU" BORE THE EVER LIVING FUCK OUT OF ME.

...

"YOU! YOU BORE THE FUCK OUT OF ME."


...

"Here we go. This is where you started to REALLY bore the fuck out of me, and with every succeeding word, it got worse."


Me: (since you responded in line this is out of sequence): "... but yeah, it's just because you're bored."

You: "Wrong again, chuckles. I was never bored,"

...(Followed, exactly TWO SENTENCES LATER, by):

"I was bored of you. You bore me"

Or to paraphrase... "you make me bored! I'm bored! You bore me! I never said I was bored! I'm bored! No I'm not bored, what are you stupid??? I'm not bored! I'm just bored!"


Fun!


Response on the matter of actual discussion coming soon to a discussion forum near you...

[joeybee12]

10. I find this hard to believe!

Being caught on tape part, that is.

[etherealtruth]

25. They have become so used to operating outside the law ...

... it probably did not occur to them that they were doing anything wrong.

Its disgusting

[joeybee12]

27. And if caught,

they had plenty others within the force to back them up.

[libdem4life]

45. Clearly, because who amongst them hasn't done the same thing. Thus, the Wall of Silence.

[jwirr]

24. There is an officer somewhere who was caught using bigoted speech and all of his former cases

are going to be looked into. That is now what needs to be done in the case of these two officers. They are talking about framing someone and even suggest that one of them has done it before.

All cases they were involved with are suspect. And the officer in Ferguson MO who also was taped giving a racist speech and fired. All former actions of any police suggesting racist reasons for arresting any suspect should be questioned. All cases not just the present case.

If this were done across the US it would not be long before Mayors and others would start making sure that the bigots were gone from the force. Imaging the times that someone incarcerated for nothing could sue the city for that. This is a way to handle this. Enough.

[Stuart G]

30. I agree with you completely ...k and r...nt

[Iggo]

37. Agree completely also.

[gopiscrap]

28. Fucking pigs

they're all like that!

[Iggo]

36. Caught on audio this time. Missed 10,000 other times.

Dicks.

[libdem4life]

46. Technology is doing some Spring Precinct Cleaning. Cell Phone Neighborhood Watch.

There is an organization called www.wecopwatch.com Right now they are fundraising for cameras in Oakland, CA. One of the other incidents I read of, a protestor was arrested along with two members of this organization.

Also, the ACLU has a mobile App in some areas that will begin to upstream to the Cloud regarding police activities, so smashing the phones won't do anything but get them on film. It's time...mostly for our other-color-skinned brothers and sisters. Seems they do pretty well protecting and serving the white community.

[Enthusiast]

49. Huge kick and recommend! It is not a Few Bad Apples. It is the whole basket!

[Fantastic Anarchist]

57. Busted, Disgusted, and can't be Trusted.

[Initech]

58. When the police are the bad guys, who is going to police them?