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(85,996 posts)
Tue May 12, 2015, 09:33 AM May 2015

President Obama Is the One Who Is Wrong About Fast Track and the TPP | The Nation

President Obama takes it personally when Americans disagree with his free-trade fundamentalism. He keeps griping about the activists who usually support his agenda but are passionately opposed to his request for “fast-track” authority to bypass congressional input and oversight on a sweeping Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal. And the president is even more upset that Democratic members of Congress are, for the most part, aligning with the activists rather than the White House.

“There have been a bunch of critics about trade deals generally and the Trans-Pacific Partnership,” he told the crowd that was assembled last week for his appearance at the corporate headquarters of Nike, a US-based firm that (with its contractors) now employs roughly 40 overseas workers for every one American...

The people the president says are “wrong” -- a group that includes Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders and most House Democrats -- are not unthinking protectionists or crude isolationists. They are supporters of workers, the environment, and human rights in the United States and abroad. They have come to recognize that, while fair trade holds immense promise, free trade along the lines the United States has practiced it in recent decades has done immense damage.

The most ardent opponents of fast track and the TPP have first-hand experience with failed trade policies. They have seen what the North American Free Trade Agreement, the permanent normalization of trade with China and other trade arrangements have done to their communities.Their current position is rooted in an understanding that, as Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison (a co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and an early supporter of Obama’s 2008 presidential run) says, “We cannot afford to rush through another NAFTA that values corporate profits above families.”

As a presidential candidate in 2008, Obama visited many of those communities and stood side-by-side with many of the leading opponents of ill-conceived and poorly administered trade agreements. He decried “a Washington where decades of trade deals like NAFTA and China have been signed with plenty of protections for corporations and their profits, but none for our environment or our workers who’ve seen factories shut their doors and millions of jobs disappear…”

Now, Obama suggests that those he sided with in 2008 are clueless in 2015.

That is not the case.


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President Obama Is the One Who Is Wrong About Fast Track and the TPP | The Nation (Original Post) bigtree May 2015 OP
Mitch McConnell has convinced him of the error of his ways LondonReign2 May 2015 #1
K & R AzDar May 2015 #2
Obama's stance on this dgibby May 2015 #3
He has no further use for you. FlatBaroque May 2015 #4
Yep-- I'm often reminded of that time he thought his mic was off and said Marr May 2015 #6
Duped... JayNev May 2015 #7
I do not regret choosing Obama over McCain A Little Weird May 2015 #9
Duped... JayNev May 2015 #8
He never did put on his comfortable walking shoes when WIsconsin Labor was burning. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #5
What if.... elias7 May 2015 #10
Republicans support him on the TPA. They don't care about getting their hands on it cali May 2015 #11
Then he should be against Fast Track so the crazies won't have the chance to have complete control stillwaiting May 2015 #12

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
1. Mitch McConnell has convinced him of the error of his ways
Tue May 12, 2015, 09:40 AM
May 2015

2008 Obama would have made a great President.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
3. Obama's stance on this
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:27 AM
May 2015

reminds me of the old adage, "If 5 people walk into a room and 4 of them see a duck, but only one of them sees a dog, it's probably safe to assume it's a duck".

I find it sad that this intelligent man continues to pander to the Republicans (who obviously detest him), but kicks the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party (and us liberal Independents) to the curb. His blatant dismissal of the people who elected him never ceases to amaze me.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
4. He has no further use for you.
Tue May 12, 2015, 11:18 AM
May 2015

Now that he doesn't have to worry about getting elected, he can let his true, inner Republican run the show.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
6. Yep-- I'm often reminded of that time he thought his mic was off and said
Tue May 12, 2015, 12:09 PM
May 2015

he'd have so much more flexibility in his second term. His sycophants actually tried to say that meant he'd be a real liberal in his second term, but that was a laughable assertion even then.

 

JayNev

(23 posts)
7. Duped...
Tue May 12, 2015, 12:15 PM
May 2015

It is time for all those who supported Obama in 2008 to realize they were duped.

Donations to Presidential candidates in 2008 by Goldman Sachs:

Obama ~ $1,000,000

McCain ~200,000

Goldman Sachs didn't get rich by investing money where there would not be a return.

What exactly is the truth about TPP, and why is Obama pushing so hard, when it obviously is going to damage US workers who are supposed to be the Democratic base? The reason is that Obama knows that Bill Clinton made tens of millions after his presidency from corporations. A similar payoff waits for Obama.

It is mind blowing that Obama who campaigned on creating the “most transparent Presidency” is now keeping the details of TPP secret due to the fear that it will energize its opponents. It is hard to oppose something without knowing what it is.

The TPP is going to push the US worker down even further. Free trade agreements like NAFTA and MNF for China are the reason why workers wages are stagnant while corporations make record profits.

Back in 2008 voters had a lot of illusions about Obama, but I felt he could not be trusted. His dealings with Exelon had shown he would do corporations’ bidding.

McCain would have led the US into new foolish wars, but he is too honest to try to pass secret trade agreements. The damage to US workers from free trade agreements is practically permanent. The rotten economy has led to a spike in suicides, especially among middle aged white males. Expect this sorry situation to continue.

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
9. I do not regret choosing Obama over McCain
Tue May 12, 2015, 12:42 PM
May 2015

But when you have two less-than-stellar choices then you will probably still be disappointed with the outcome. That's why I'm going to work hard to get Sanders' name out there. If he wins the nomination, it will be the first election where I can really get excited about a candidate.

 

JayNev

(23 posts)
8. Duped...
Tue May 12, 2015, 12:25 PM
May 2015

It is time for all those who supported Obama in 2008 to realize they were duped.

Donations to Presidential candidates in 2008 by Goldman Sachs:

Obama ~ $1,000,000

McCain ~200,000

Goldman Sachs didn't get rich by investing money where there would not be a return.

What exactly is the truth about TPP, and why is Obama pushing so hard, when it obviously is going to damage US workers who are supposed to be the Democratic base? The reason is that Obama knows that Bill Clinton made tens of millions after his presidency from corporations. A similar payoff waits for Obama.

It is mind blowing that Obama who campaigned on creating the “most transparent Presidency” is now keeping the details of TPP secret due to the fear that it will energize its opponents. It is hard to oppose something without knowing what it is.

The TPP is going to push the US worker down even further. Free trade agreements like NAFTA and MNF for China are the reason why workers wages are stagnant while corporations make record profits.

Back in 2008 voters had a lot of illusions about Obama, but I felt he could not be trusted. His dealings with Exelon had shown he would do corporations’ bidding.

McCain would have led the US into new foolish wars, but he is too honest to try to pass secret trade agreements. The damage to US workers from free trade agreements is practically permanent. The rotten economy has led to a spike in suicides, especially among middle aged white males. Expect this sorry situation to continue.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
5. He never did put on his comfortable walking shoes when WIsconsin Labor was burning.
Tue May 12, 2015, 11:37 AM
May 2015

NO TPP, NO TIPP, NOT NOW, NOT EVER! NO Monarchial/Feudal Corporate Global Takeover!

elias7

(4,003 posts)
10. What if....
Tue May 12, 2015, 01:46 PM
May 2015

Obama is trying to block this from congresses hands because he realizes the crazies will change it for the worse?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. Republicans support him on the TPA. They don't care about getting their hands on it
Tue May 12, 2015, 01:52 PM
May 2015

they're fine with it. Democrats are the ones fighting him on this.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
12. Then he should be against Fast Track so the crazies won't have the chance to have complete control
Wed May 13, 2015, 07:24 AM
May 2015

after his Presidency is over.

Fast Track lasts 6 years. WAY too dangerous to give them Fast Track with Republicans in charge of the WH, Senate, and House. Which is possible.

We already have free trade deals with many of the nations involved with TPP negotiations.

And, bilateral trade agreements make so much more sense for a huge number of reasons.

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