Alan Grayson just called a reporter a "shitting robot"

[Playinghardball]

http://mojo.ly/1EE0Bby

[okaawhatever]

1. Grayson has been tactless on more than one occassion. nt

[Fantastic Anarchist]

15. It's not tactless, it's welcomed.

[yeoman6987]

31. How much money do you have in the Caymens?

The reporter was right in asking him about this. What was wrong with the question from the reporter?

[840high]

78. Nothing was wrong.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

86. Between 0 and Quadrillion.

It matters not to what Grayson is advocating.

[7962]

138. You forget, its only tactless when the OTHER side does it!

Otherwise, anything goes as long as we win!!

[Scootaloo]

151. I love that you never miss an opportunity to shed a tear for the feelings of the far right

I guess someone's gotta. keep up the good work. Just remember that htye would drown you in a heartbeat given the opportunity. Literally drown you.

[7962]

162. We have many OPs where the subject is nothing but rude crude stuff from the right.

And thats fine. Point out their stupidity. But if everyone is just fine with the Democrat doing it, then why have the stories at all? I expect more from my candidates. I expect them to be BETTER than the other side. I expect them to NOT act like asses.
If I'm "shedding tears", i'm shedding them because its a shame that we are no different than they are if we fawn over insulting, lying candidates like Grayson. Look at all the ones who DONT act that way.
I'm not alone, judging by some of the other comments.

[sabrina 1]

2. Lol, I love Grayson! Can't say I blame him considering what passes for journalism these days.

[whatchamacallit]

5. Me too Sabrina!

Bust out the smelling salts.

[wyldwolf]

38. Yet people are whining that Hillary isn't answering their questions

Hmmm...

[MADem]

128. But hey, he's "cool."

Never mind that he's a lousy husband and father, he "fights the power" while he's securing his OWN wealth against the mother of his children, and his children as well.

The guy has ISSUES. Comments like that might appeal to the slavish fan base, but to anyone with even an iota of maturity, he comes off like a total asshole. If a Republican answered in the same fashion, I'd be equally put off.

Politicians who say what people want to hear, but who conduct themselves in an ineffective and crude fashion, are about as useful as costumed wrestlers. They put on a great show for people who like that kind of crap, but they don't really make anyone's life better, save perhaps their own.

[7962]

163. You have a way with words. Thank you.

I was accused of shedding tears for the right wing a few posts above for being critical of him. You said it much better.

[MADem]

164. You are more than welcome.

When people respond to an observation you've made by attacking YOU, personally, instead of responding to the points you've made, that means they've run out of rope and they're about to drop off the cliffs of logic. It's not about you--it's about his behavior. If he didn't behave that way, no one would be saying a word.

[fadedrose]

172. Not so good at being a husband

In these days of liberal changes in lifestyles, we still value a good husband....I used to be a great fan . . .

[MADem]

173. Ghastly. Five kids, and he got that annulment he wanted (after 25 years).

He wasted no time in getting himself a new galpal, too....

[sabrina 1]

190. We know nothing about his personal life. Maybe his wife wasn't so good at being a wife. But

frankly I am not interested in the personal lives of politicians, wasn't interested in Clinton's personal life, or his wife's either.

I am interested only in one thing, 'how do they vote on behalf of the people who elected them'. And Grayson passes my test for politicians.

It really is reprehensible to drag up people's personal lives, from either party. Half the country gets divorced, I hope they are not affected in their jobs by whatever their personal issues with their spouses and families are. Half the workforce would be fired if that were the case.

Interesting how when it's a Progressive Dem the smears just keep coming. Lots of our Reps have been divorced, some of them pretty nasty divorces, but so long as they play the game, we don't hear much about them. THAT should be the case for ALL politicians.

I remember that being the position of the 'left' during the whole Clinton debacle. I felt that way then, and still do.

Just tell me where you stand on the issues, your private life is not my concern.

[Rhiannon12866]

115. I love Alan Grayson, too!

He's the congressman I support since he really does speak for me, especially since my district voted in a Paul Ryan protégée when we used to have Kirsten Gillibrand...

[ladjf]

3. His remark was destructively gross. In other words, he actually

insulted himself more that he did the reporter. Sounds like Grayson might be "going around the bend".

[sabrina 1]

8. His 'remark' was in the form of a question, and completely appropriate. What is inappropriate

is a robotic press corp run by Corporate interests which makes no attempt to even ACT like real journalists.

Grayson has the guts to challenge them, good for him.

He asked a question 'are you a shitting robot'. A good question actually.

Now I have to go to twitter and retweet that conversation.

Maybe others will find the courage to challenge our useless media rather than acting like we really do have a 'free press'.

[L0oniX]

14. +1

[Fantastic Anarchist]

24. I'm K&Ring your post and I don't care ...

[daleanime]

28. +1

[NuclearDem]

29. Uh huh.

He threw a tantrum when a reporter called him on setting up a fucking hedge fund in the Caymans.

Rank hypocrisy.

[cali]

44. maybe you and I are wrong. maybe it's cognitive dissonance

or politician worship syndrome

[wyldwolf]

40. So you're saying Hillary should just insult them instead of just not answering question

[sabrina 1]

46. Did this reporter ever ask Jaimie Dimon about his offshore accounts I wonder? Any of the

huge Corporations who have trillions in offshore accounts?

Sounds like Grayson was after those Wall St crooks again and their Corporate media lackeys are just doing their jobs.

Now, you asked about a Presidential candidate. What on earth does THAT have to do with THIS topic?

[NuclearDem]

56. Did a local Tampa Bay reporter ask Jaime Dimon in New York about his finances?

No, I would imagine not.

[cali]

62. thAt has fuck all to do with it. total strawman

[sabrina 1]

66. It has fuck all everything to do with it. What is Grayson's voting record?

I will NOT stand by and watch another potential ally to President Bernie Sanders destroyed, like other good democrats because a Corporate Media lackey decides to question him about HIS personal finances, which I don't give a flying fuck about frankly, as they did with Kucinich, look at HIS voting record, which is ALL I care about, and play THEIR game of ridding Congress of all but their Corporate Funded, morons.

We need Grayson when Sanders wins the WH. YOU go right ahead and play into the game if you wish.

But after more than a decade of watching this game being played, I'm looking at the reality. I want Dems in Congress who will SUPPORT the issues Sanders supports and I don't give a tinker's curse about their personal issues. Period.

[naoya6161]

70. So says you

Believe me when I say that other voters will care. There's a reason why Florida is a swing state after all...

[Long Drive]

82. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

So says me to you.

[naoya6161]

84. Not exactly a compelling argument

Next time you might want to put more thought in your remarks.

[Long Drive]

119. I put exactly as much thought as was deserved

Next?

[naoya6161]

120. Still not compelling

Sorry but...it's called having a well thought out argument.

[Long Drive]

122. Keep trying to get me to call you names

Not happening, you are a joke. Bye.

[naoya6161]

123. Hahahahaha

Well considering that all you do is making vague attempts at insulting me (which make you look immature, by the way)...no offense taken.

[Long Drive]

126. Oh it is with such sorrow I cast you into ignore

With your blistering 4 days here.

[naoya6161]

129. Thanks for not leaving, BTW

Congrats on contradicting yourself minutes after saying bye.
Ah yes...and ignoring me? Not really offensive as you think.

[NuclearDem]

137. Oh that is just delish.

Keep trying to get me to call you names Not happening, you are a joke. Bye.

[sabrina 1]

141. So says the record. Last time these smear campaigns against Grayson worked, and we got a vile

Republican in his place. But voters learned that Grayson had been right after all about his opponent and returned his seat to him (thank you all you Progressives out there who worked hard to keep progressives in Congress in the mid terms) after just a couple of years of Republican, Webster. Grayson doesn't mince words, and didn't wrt to Webster, same thing happened back then with a few on the Left reaching for their smelling salts after Grayson 'indelicately' described his opponent. Turns out he was right.

[naoya6161]

143. Nope

Webster is still in Congress. Grayson is currently serving in a district that's been gerrymandered to be super-Democratic - a Republican can't win where he runs now.

[sabrina 1]

147. Grayson is back in Congress. The Left sure did a great job of helping Webster gain a seat that WAS

ours, well some on the 'left' airc.

And even though I am not in Florida, I will be supporting the Dem, Grayson, every way I can. IF the Dem leadership chooses yet another Corporate Dem to challenge Grayson, then good luck, see the mid terms.

[MADem]

135. Given Grayson's personal dramas, and now this intemperate display, I think Senator Sanders might

not be too eager to associate himself too closely with this guy. He's a loose cannon, and not in a "truthy" way, in an "I'm going to do something totally inappropriate and completely implode" way.

[sabrina 1]

139. Yeah, he is one of the few who had the guts to slam the Republicans and their corporate buddies

so he has been targeted, no doubt about it. And all Bernie will need from Congress are their votes. Grayson will deliver those votes.

Btw, exactly what is this little media created drama all about? Is there something we are missing here?

Blame the victim tends to work with some on the Left. Those corporate dollars do buy smear campaigns, as we know from Anonymous leaks where we got a close up look at how they are 'born'.

And oddly enough ALL of them are directed at the most Liberal Dems. So long as everyone plays along, doesn't matter what they are up to in their personal lives, they are protected. But when someone like Grayson comes along and refuses to be silent, THIS is what happens.

Not going to help them, feel free to hand over a Dem seat AGAIN to a Republican. Not this Democrat.

[MADem]

142. He hasn't been "targeted." His BEHAVIOR invites the attention he's getting.

His behavior is not normal--it's suggestive of personal problems.

I never regarded Grayson as leading any vote-delivering caucus in Congress.

This isn't "media created." If Grayson had said "no comment" he wouldn't have gotten any column inches on this issue. It's not "blaming the victim" when someone asks an entirely reasonable question, given the news reports of the day. His answer was just dumb-ass. He's not looking well, perhaps he's drinking too much or something, but he isn't using his better judgment.

http://gawker.com/anti-corporate-hero-alan-grayson-keeps-millions-in-offs-1704487403

Grayson Fund Ltd. and Grayson Master Fund were incorporated in 2011 in the Cayman Islands, a well known tax Haven that [Mitt] Romney used as well, records show. That was the same year (Grayson) wrote in the Huffington Post that the IRS should audit every Fortune 500 company because so many appear to be “evading taxes through transfer pricing and offshore tax havens”...

Grayson’s financial disclosure statements indicate he has between $5-million and $25-million invested in the Grayson fund, and he lists no income from it.
Grayson has made two fortunes as a trial lawyer and president of a discount calling-card company (which, he notes, is in the Fortune 1000, not the top 500 firms he thinks should be audited by the government). The congressman told Smith that some lawyer told him to set up the offshore funds, and anyway, no foreigners had invested in them yet, so what’s the big deal?

“When I set up my investment funds I set it up like everyone else,” Grayson said, complaining about theTampa Bay Times looking for “some stupid, bull—— story. ... You want to write sh— about it, and you can’t because not a single dollar of taxes has been avoided,” he snapped...

Asked whether it was appropriate for a member of congress and potential U.S. Senator to set up an investment fund with an eye toward soliciting foreign investments in the future, Grayson scoffed.

“Are you f———- kidding? I set up a fund that might solicit foreign investors....I have no present intention of soliciting foreign investors,” he said. “Your perception issue is bull——.”

“This is even worse than Grayson’s girlfriend might run for congress 18 months from now,” referring to a recent Politico story attributed to no named sources. “This is a whole nother level of bull——....Are are you some kind of sh——-g robot? You go around sh——g on on people?”

Normal people don't talk like that when they're asked to go on the record for a media outlet like a city newspaper. Politicians, certainly, don't use terms like "fucking kidding," "bullshit," "shit" and "shitting robot" if they don't want to get a bit of 'coverage' in the media when they go off like that. How about stripping out all the hyperbole and responding with facts rather than accusing the reporter of "wanting to write shit?" He's handing them his CrayCray card on a silver platter. He has only himself to blame for all this "Grayson unhinged" coverage.

Something's not right with that guy. He's not well.

[cali]

153. I don't know that he's not well. I think he's just an arrogant, narcissistic

phony.

and I think he's a liar too. How does several million dollars in a hedge fund in the Cayman Islands NOT generate income?

[MADem]

165. I've seen some recent pictures of him, and he doesn't look good.

He looks like he's sleeping in his clothes, his suits are ill-fitting and rumpled, that hair looks like a drugstore dye job, his skin looks raddled, his color is off, he just looks sick.

Sometimes, when people are ill, they do really stupid things, they behave in crazed, offensive ways. I have to wonder if some of his histrionics of late are related to his health. He should go get a check up and rule out anything serious.

As for the hedge fund, that is a curiosity, indeed. Maybe he IS just "parking his money" or maybe he's hiding it from that wife/mother of all those kids he's trying to play off as a "golddigger." Now that's a no-class move, what he's doing to her--she was no Good Time Charlene, she gave birth to and raised a crew of kids he fathered, and now he's trying to toss her out without a dime.

But a good politician would have dodged the question, kicked the can down the road, "Let me get back to you..." -- that kind of thing, not called the reporter ten different kinds of fucking bullshitter!!!

He might be unwell...and he's not ready for Prime Time. He has no business in the upper chamber, and he shouldn't even try for it. A lot of that has to do with his dust-up with Jon Tester, which was reported on recently--I don't particularly love POLITICO, but I think they've got the basics of this down:

Grayson, who wouldn’t comment on his tirades, didn’t dispute participating in a difficult phone call a few weeks previously with DSCC Chairman Jon Tester, who informed the representative that the committee would likely soon endorse Rep. Patrick Murphy. Grayson denied he directly swore at Tester — as two sources alleged — but he wouldn’t comment on what he said.
“What’s the deal here? You publish whatever colorful lies people toss your way, for their own obvious political purposes?” Grayson asked via text message.
Tester’s spokesman at the DSCC declined to comment. However, in multiple interviews with Democrats from Washington to Florida, it’s clear that the Montana senator tried to pressure Grayson to stay out of the Senate race because Democratic establishment figures believe he’s unelectable in a statewide race.
“You’re making a mistake,” Grayson said, likening Murphy to a piece of excrement. “When I’m a senator, it’s going to be hard to work together.”
If that happened, Tester chuckled, he was certain they would be able to work together after all. After the conversation, sources said, Tester made up his mind not only to support Murphy but to publicly endorse him and steer more money to his campaign.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/alan-grayson-erupts-as-senate-bid-looms-117925.html#ixzz3aB55YNwa

[cali]

169. You make really good points. You've made really good points throughout this thread

so I'll defer to you.

[sabrina 1]

179. I know, something is never right with outspoken Liberal Dems. Same old smear campaign. If he has not

avoided paying taxes, then where is the story here?

If he was a Third Wayer we would not even hear of any of this.

Until some crime is attached to this, it is BS story and he is correct.

Having worked for people who are in this political sphere, investments offshore are common.

He offends the sensibilities of those who prefer certain topics not be addressed by members of Congress.

He's a NYer, his style of dealing with BS won't offend many in this part of the world.

I trust far less the 'oh-so-polite' politicians who lie with impunity and do it with a smile on their faces.

[MADem]

180. If a rich, back bench GOP congressman did the exact same things, you'd be all over him like a cheap

suit.

This has nothing to do with his place on the liberal-conservative spectrum, it has to do with some really OFFENSIVE language and conduct.

I can't believe you're defending this as a "BS story" when he has acknowledged that the key facts that led to his sputtering melt-down are not in dispute. He set up not one, but TWO, hedge fund accounts, and he did it at the same time he was excoriating Mittsy the Shittsy (lookie there, shit!!! His favorite word) for doing the very same thing. This goes back to 2011--it's not a new thing.

It's called HYPOCRISY--and when an "outspoken Liberal Dem" engages in it, it's just as bad as when an "outspoken Conservative Teabagger" does it.

I, frankly, would LOVE the issue of how these offshore accounts are treated and taxed to be addressed in Congress. Looks like your good buddy, there, knows damn well that this won't be happening anytime soon. He felt comfortable putting MILLIONS down there.

No matter where he was born or raised, he represents a district in FLORIDA now. Since when is the fact that he's from NY give him some kind of pass to be an asshole? I think plenty of NYers might take exception to that characterization, frankly. It is unlikely in the extreme that he'll be given the opportunity to represent the entire state--he's boisterous, out of control of his emotions, and he sounds UNHINGED. He left "impolite" in the dust by the second scatalogical reference, and when he got to "shitting robot" he was out in la-la land.

The man is NOT well, and that's why the DSCC ain't backing him. He's on a collision course with his own hubris.

[sabrina 1]

184. Of course he's 'not well'. He's a Liberal who has gone after the bad guys. And he does an

impressive job of doing so too. Which is why they've been after him.

That's what is always said about good Pregressive Dems. It's becoming a pattern.

It's beginning to happen with Warren now too. All the way to the WH this time.

Third Way Kessler and his buddy started that smear campaign

And we know they are going to go after Bernie Sanders.

Are you seriously saying that no other members of Congress have money invested in offshore accounts?

Especially Republicans.

And no, I would not be after them so long as they are not doing anything illegal. Why would anyone go after someone for doing something LEGAL?

What is illegal about what Grayson is doing? You haven't said, just jumped on the bandwagon.

So, explain to us what he is doing that is not legal?

[naoya6161]

185. Doesn't matter

There are two things we get from this.
One: he's a hypocrite for lashing out at others for having hedge funds when he does too.
Two: the way he handled his response was immature and not befitting of one seeking higher office.
Whether it's legal or not doesn't really make a difference...the damage has been done.

[MADem]

186. No, it's not his stated views that are problematic. You know this. You keep ignoring the obvious.

It's the unhinged melt-downs, the disordered personal life, the scatalogical references, the pointless anger when asked an entirely REASONABLE question, that is worrying. And falling back to the "Waaah, it was LEGAL" defense entirely misses the point (though it's a great way to try to misdirect/change the subject). You don't -- if you are an honest person -- play a "Do as I say, not as I do" game, and that is EXACTLY what Grayson did.

A "good progressive Dem" doesn't excoriate Republicans for shoving money offshore--and Grayson did this, in 2011-- while doing the EXACT same thing himself. And all the "Third Way" insinuations in the world aren't going to change that. The question the reporter asked was appropriate and entirely reasonable. The answer was not. Instead of dialing it down, it sounded like it came from someone who was acting like a crazy man. "Shitting robot?" Come on.

This is a guy who wants to run for the Senate. It's no wonder the DSCC isn't enthused.

He's deconstructing. Maybe he should have tried to patch it up with the mother of his five children, his annulled wife of 25 years--he seemed to do better and behave in a more focused fashion when he was with her. Since they split, his behavior has become more and more histrionic.

[ReRe]

166. Alan would be a great...

... "bulldog" VP choice for Bernie.

[cali]

168. Anyone thinking Bernie would choose him, doesn't know Bernie at all

Bernie is nothing like Grayson and from what I know of him, I doubt he has any admiration for Grayson's loose cannon ways.

[ReRe]

191. Excuse me. cali...

... you read too much into my short post. I said nothing about what I thought Bernie would or should do. What I said was just a thought that popped into my head. I don't dislike (hate) Alan Grayson like you do, so I guess that might have something to do with how it came to my mind. You're right: they are nothing alike, except that they are both passionate about the wrongs that have been done to this country.

[MADem]

170. Yeah, he could bring his girlfriend to the Observatory in DC and leave his xwife in the house w/the

failed septic system. The kids could visit him on holidays.



The way Grayson is behaving, he couldn't get elected VP of the local Book Club. The Senate Congressional Committee is not going to back him.

Because he can't get support from the people he wishes to join in the Senate, he's going to have to dip into his OWN fortune to fund his campaign...and he's cheap. I don't think he'll do that. He'll go to the well of his supporters, and I don't think they'll donate in the amounts he needs.

[sabrina 1]

187. We need fighters like Grayson. Notice whenever one shows up, they are attacked, smeared and

marginalized. But Grayson IS a fighter, and very popular with the Left. Not so much with Corporate Dems and definitely not with the Right.

The more I see these consistent attacks, the more I know he's been irritating the 'right' people.

It's laughable, we KNOW that if he had played the game, nothing he was doing in his personal life would be revealed, he would be protected.

[cali]

150. sorry, he's just another phony; a hypocritical creep. He railed against people doing PRECISELY

what he's doing. And if Sanders did something like this, I'd do everything I could to kick his ass to the curb. Grayson, thank the blue May sky, isn't my rep- who is, incidentally, better than that creep in every conceivable way. Anyway, he won't be serving in the Senate in any case. If his constituents want him, that's their business, but he sure the fuck doesn't speak for me. And guess what, the national dem party has been just fine with Bernie. they haven't gone after him and have even endorsed him.

Grayson's voting record is no better than dozens of other dems, and not as good as quite a few.


Grayson is just another John Edwards taking advantage of suckers.

[sabrina 1]

174. And I'll do everything I can to keep him working for the people.

He DOES speak for me, and it's reprehensible to accuse someone of doing something he has not done, the you have no knowledge of, but are going on one question asked by one reporter.

Investing in foreign countries is legal.

Hiding trillions of dollars in offshore accounts to avoid taxes is not.

Which did he do?

[cali]

175. He admitted it. I realize denial is a powerful force, but denying

this is absurd.

And it sure as hell isn't investing in foreign countries. I have NEVER said it was illegal. He's taking advantage of a loophole. His hypocrisy is stunning.

He's a fucking train wreck.

[MADem]

181. Who knew Jamie Dimon served in Congress representing a FL district and was making a move towards a

Senate run? Who knew Dimon excoriated a GOP presidential candidate for stashing his cash offshore?

Oh WAIT....that's not the case. He's NOT doing that at all--but Grayson is. His plan, which isn't being endorsed by the DSCC, was to run for the Senate and tout his new, unknown and inexperienced girlfriend as his replacement in the district.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/alan-grayson-dena-minning-florida-congress-117624.html

You're comparing apples and oranges, and coming up empty.

[Scootaloo]

167. I hear Hillary has a committee to plan a plan for her committee to plan insults. n/t

[LanternWaste]

146. it was wrong when the press asked Romney about his off-shore accounts and it's just as wrong now

No doubt it was wrong when the useless, robotic press corp run by corporate interests asked Romney about his off-shore accounts, and it's just as wrong now.

[MADem]

182. I understand Romney demonstrated slightly more restraint when it came to his response....

He called the reporter asking the question a "pooping automaton!"




Sorry...could not resist!

[leftofcool]

4. Not a good idea.

[backscatter712]

6. Truth can be ugly sometimes.

Grayson knows how to keep it real.

[sufrommich]

7. The reporter asked him about his offshore finances in the

Cayman Islands:

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/potty-mouthed-alan-grayson-and-his-offshore-investments/2229497

[cali]

10. Interesting. I'm not an admirer of Grayson's

I feel about him much as I felt about Edwards, and that article confirms my suspcions.

Phony.

[sufrommich]

13. It's not the first time we've had a representative who had

both good policies and was also a bombastic clown, that's for sure.

[cali]

18. true, but what bothers me more than his being bombastic is his rank hypocrisy

U.S. Rep. Alan Grayson, the outspoken, populist Democrat who thunders against Wall Street fat cats,and used to to joke about Mitt Romney's low tax bill, incorporated a couple hedge funds in the Cayman Islands so investors could avoid taxes.

Grayson Fund Ltd. and Grayson Master Fund were incorporated in 2011 in the Cayman Islands, a well known tax Haven that Romney used as well, records show.. That was the same year he wrote in the Huffington Post that the IRS should audit every Fortune 500 company because so many appear to be "evading taxes through transfer pricing and offshore tax havens."

In a phone interview Wednesday, Grayson said the funds were incorporated in Grand Cayman at the advice of an attorney he declined to name. It was a vehicle for foreign investors to invest in his funds while limiting their tax liabilities, he said, but no money had been invested in them yet.

<snip>

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/potty-mouthed-alan-grayson-and-his-offshore-investments/2229497

Put simply, this is as indefensible as it gets. And the weasel words that Grayson uses are maddening. He really seems to think that he can pull the wool over everybody's eyes- and then he has the unmitigated gall to act self-righteous. He'll never be the U.S. Senator from Florida.

[sufrommich]

22. He says he has "voters who will crawl over glass" to vote

for him. I think he may have a problem with narcissism too. Narcissists never know when to shut up.

[GReedDiamond]

116. Here's a video of one of those voters...

Sorry, couldn't resist...RIP Chris Burden - 1946-2015.

We now return you to the regularly scheduled programming.

[MADem]

189. Tip O'Neill never forgot the lesson that people like to be ASKED for their vote.

If he's relying on glass-crawlers, he may be surprised. Voters don't like to be taken for granted.

[Baitball Blogger]

23. Unfortunately for Grayson, the tampabay.com was formerly called the

St. Pete Times. I found some of the most well written, investigative pieces in the St. Pete Times. The paper had an advance search function for its time and the articles were free. They weren't afraid to take on socialite families in the bay area, which gave me a great lead to follow a paper trail that would lead to a Wendy's franchise owner in the Midwest who was known to donate huge sums of money to high level candidates in both parties.

So, in sum, it might be in Grayson's advantage to use a different tact.

[TM99]

104. I don't usually disagree with you

and I am not necessarily defending Grayson (even though I am more concerned with how he votes than whether he swore at a journalist asking a bad question) but hypocrisy is rampant all over.

We are supposed to hold Grayson accountable for doing one thing and saying another right? Even though we do not know exactly what, if anything he did wrong. Has he been asked to open up to scrutiny, yet, the account?

Yet, we are being told daily here that Clinton HAS to use Citizens United ruling and all those billions because you have to fight fire with fire. It is just pragmatism. Once she wins, then of course, she will over turn CU.

So Grayson can't fight fire with fire? So Grayson, a lowly Rep, must be held to a stricter level of accountability than Clinton? So, Grayson should be singled out on this alone? Have other Senators and Reps been asked the same question?

I smell a rat, and you may not like Grayson and his style, but right now, I have no problem with either what he has done or the way he handled the 'journalists' question given the current situation we find ourselves in economically.

[naoya6161]

105. Why we're mad at Grayson

We're not angry necessarily over the whole situation. What we're mad about is how immaturely he handled the situation...we can think of several other Democrats on our bench who don't sink to that level.
And we certainly don't need fight Fire with Fire. What you're thinking of will lead to he who fights monsters.

[TM99]

107. People have off days.

I don't worship politicians so I do not hold them to the same standards that some here do.

Has he lied and voted against what he said he was voting for? Nope.

Has he lied about his record of true Democrat ideals and positions? Nope.

He is a consistently progressive & liberal Democrat who is a welcome ally in a congress where we need allies.

We already have 'fight fire with fire'. That is the only excuse given for Clinton's acceptance of corporate PAC billions brought about by the same CU that she 'claims' she will get rid of.

Some are not as outspoken or as uncouth, true. But look where the 'nice' 'adult' Obama got us with the TPP.

[naoya6161]

108. Which is why I can do better

Why should I vote for him when I could just vote for Murphy, who shares many of the same values Grayson does while handling the press better?

[TM99]

109. Are you kidding me?

Murphy is the damned embodiment of the entire Third Way problem with the current Democratic Party and its leadership.

Only four months prior to running for his seat, he was a Republican and supported Romney for President in 2012. He describes himself as socially liberal but fiscally conservative which means he is just another Third Way coporatists. He is for the Keystone Pipeline AND supports the Benghazi investigation. He did not run a single ad critical of Republicans when he ran for office as a Democrat.

Grayson, despite his flaws, is not even in the same category as this man.

But I now know where you stand on the issues and the Third Way. Thanks.

[naoya6161]

110. Correcting your mistakes

For one, Murphy supported Romney in 2008, NOT 2012. This was back before the Tea Party movement began.
For two, were you not watching during the 2012 campaign? Murphy actually ran several ads critical of West, his opponent. Or are you thinking of 2014, when he actually won 60-40%?

You know, in spite of the Keystone vote, he actually has been supportive of environmental issues. In fact, today he actually cosponsored legislation against off-shore drilling.

So...don't assume that you know everything about Murphy.

[TM99]

111. I was incorrect on the year.

But the rest is available online at his site and through wikipedia. He is not a progressive.

[naoya6161]

112. Remember, this is Florida

Florida is still very much a swing state in Presidential years. So we kind of need all the voters we can in order to win.

In the past, Murphy has proven that he can run a good campaign and win...while Grayson comes up short. So that's part of the reason I support him. In fact, quite a few of us Florida Democrats agree that Grayson doesn't stand a chance in a statewide election...today's little hissy fit gives us more reason to believe so.

And as someone who has followed Murphy's campaign from the beginning, I can attest to the progressive causes he has supported (Social Security, abortion, Everglades, etc.). I don't deny that Murphy isn't as leftish as Grayson - but at the same time, I am confident in my belief that Murphy is overall the superior candidate.

[TM99]

113. I just don't agree with that strategy.

He is a moderate Republican running as a Democrat in a traditionally conservative state. A Republican running against him has a better chance of winning. You want to turn out the vote for Democrats, don't run a DINO. You want left-leaning independents and Greens to vote Democratic, don't run a DINO.

2010 and 2014 mid term elections demonstrated this as did the 2000 Presidential election.

I am not confident in such a strategy both pragmatically and on principle.

[naoya6161]

114. Our strategy does have history behind it

1) For starters, this is a presidential election year. This won't be like those two midterms you mentioned...almost everyone in Florida turns out for a presidential election. So our candidate does have an advantage.
2) In the 2010 election, Grayson lost in his district 38.6 - 56.1 percent. By contrast, Sink lost to Scott 47.2 - 47.5 percent in the same district. So you really can't prove that Grayson will be attractive to moderates when he failed to do so in 2010.
3) In the 2014 election, Murphy beat Domino 59.8 - 40.2 percent. By contrast, Crist lost to Scott 47.7 to 47.8 percent. In a really bad year for Democrats, Murphy actually managed to outperform the opposition and win election to a second term.

[MADem]

144. Wait a minute--Grayson is getting all this publicity not because of what he said so much as how

he said it. If he had said "No taxes have been avoided, your characterization is not accurate, please send me your questions in writing and I'll have my staff get back to you...." or something like that, there would be no story. Correction--no STORIES.

But instead, he said "Are you fucking kidding me?" and used "shit" and "bullshit" a number of times in short order, and finished up with the eminently publishable "shitting robot."

He comes off like an angry, defensive lunatic. THAT's the news. Hell, "Rich guy stashes money in tax shelter" is not news. "Politician behaves hypocritically..." even, is not news. But "Politician goes off the page and repeatedly screams variations of SHIT at a reporter?"

That's news.

He's not a new cowboy at the rodeo, here. He knows--or should know--how to manage the media. Why he can't seem to keep his temper in answering these questions is suggestive of problems of some sort. That level of frustration is just not a normal response to an inquiry by a reporter.

[naoya6161]

145. Agreed

I admit I could have worded that better.

[RecoveringJournalist]

134. This ^^^

Exactly!

[trumad]

21. Yep---knew you'd be along.

[NaturalHigh]

25. Did somebody hurt your feelings?

I didn't know you were such a Grayson fan.

[trumad]

36. He's my congressman. .

Plenty of so called experts here on DU about this terrific progressive man. Same characters everytime.

[sabrina 1]

49. All I know is he puts up with no shit from Republicans and he's a fighter. That's good enough

for me, and if asks a reporter if he's a 'shitting robot', the only problem I have with that is, that I didn't think robots were able to do that. But what do I know, Grayson is way smarter than I am and I would like to see more like him in Congress. We need people who can scare the 'shit' out of those who are destroying this country and NO ONE takes them on like Grayson imo.

[trumad]

50. And the typicals hop in this thread and act like shitting robots.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

57. Carlin said none of them can be trusted, he was right. If I have to choose between a pro

gay marriage, pro woman's rights, pro jobs candidate who has offshore accounts or, well you know

Doesnt make it right, but he is a politician.

They are all pretty low and we just have to realize that, but compared to ANY teaparty or repub he is a saint

[sabrina 1]

75. None of them are our friends, family members, or neighbors. All I care about is 'how do they vote'?

THAT is what we should be looking at and not distracted by the obvious campaign to rid Congress of ANY Democrat who dares to do what Grayson has done, take them on face to face on the ISSSUES.

We hear a lot about 'pragmatism' when it suits our Third Wayers to do so.

Well, I am being pragmatic right now. Last time the 'left' reached for the smelling salts re Grayson, we got a despicable right winger in his place in Congress. Thankfully he returned to take back that seat.

This time, I want him right where he is voting for the issues that matter to the American people.

No politician, no human being, is perfect. But Grayson over a Republican, or a Third Way Pro-Corporate 'dem', there is simply no way I would allow this to cause me to take that risk.

[cali]

64. and the blind worshippers

ignore the facts. Same cr,different object of adoration.

[sabrina 1]

83. Oh yes, it's all about being a 'fangirl' or whatever. What is his voting record on major issues

So, we are going to replace him, AGAIN, no? Like last time when we 'so sensitive liberals' reached for the smelling salts after he told the truth about his Republican opponent. We could not tolerate such (excuse me while I reach for my hankie) 'crude talk'.

So we lost that seat to that Republican. Who needs the far right to rid of us of liberal dems in Congress when we are so good at doing it ourselves?

Nice going Dems, do not ever allow anyone to offend your sensibilities. Better to have a far right wing Republican representing you than a tough talking NYer who pulls no punches and votes FOR the issues you SAY you care about.

I'm no one's fan girl, and if that's all you've got keep up the good work.

Like last time, when I tried to talk reason with those who were clutching the smelling salts and their hankies, 'it's either him OR the Corporate tool he so rightly called out'.

If you can't argue why you want him gone then refrain from the old 'fan girl' stuff. We were right, we fangirls last time, you got your Republican Grayson so offended, rightfully.

Hopefully others learned from that and this time will simply try being 'pragmatic' for a change so we don't repeat that disastrous error of judgement.

[naoya6161]

85. We can use any other Democrat in place of Grayson

[sabrina 1]

88. Really? That's what I heard last time he offended certain people's sensibilities. Except they

were playing right into the hands of the 'enemy'. It was DEMS who turned a vile, Corporate, heartless moron into a VICTIM after Grayson RIGHTFULLY called him out for what he was.

And there was no Democrat to take that seat. So that Republican these so offended Dems were defending, WON that seat.

No way will I watch this happen again.

You go right ahead and repeat that disastrous mistake.

I will support this Democrat over any Corporate tool any day and am fully aware of how much THEY want him gone. Which means we should want him THERE.

[naoya6161]

90. Have you forgotten that many voters are

Independent here in Florida?
They have no obligation to vote for the Democrat. They're going to vote for the most appealing candidate. Ignoring your own candidates flaws out of admiration isn't going to do your own side favors.

[sabrina 1]

92. Yeah, and thanks to the smelling salts crowd on 'our side' they turned a vile Republican

Corporate Tool into a 'symathatic victim' last time Grayson spoke the truth, in his inimitable way. I had this exact same argument back then, but hey, that poor Republican, how dare Grayson tell the truth about him. So, the smelling salts crowd helped their victim win that election.

All candidates have flaws. Let me ask you this: 'How many Dems currently serving in Congress have offshore accounts'?? Do you KNOW, do you CARE?

Get back to me when you have the answer to that question.

Meantime, I want Dems who have Grayson's voting record in Congress RATHER than what we got last time people such as yourself, made this exact same argument to me, and lost us that seat to one of the worst kinds of Republicans.

I will wait for the answer to that question, and then the next question 'should we toss all Dems with offshore accounts out of their seats in Congress'?

[naoya6161]

93. i think you're missing the point

Why should I vote for a candidate who slams others for having offshore accounts when he has one too?
And it does send me warning signs when a candidate fails to adequately explain himself.

[sabrina 1]

95. You didn't answer my question. How many other Dems have offshore accounts

And why should you vote for THEM? Hey, go ahead and be a 'purist', do what was done last time Grayson offended the sensibilities of those on HIS side of the aisle, vote for the Repub. Because that is what your choice will be, as it was last time.

Again, how many members of Congress have offshore accounts and should we toss all of them who have attacked Wall St for the trillions they are hiding in tax dollars in those accounts?

Has Grayson taken any bailouts btw?

[naoya6161]

96. Wrong again

You see, unlike you I acknowledge that there are other Democrats besides Grayson. That's why I chose to back Murphy. True, I don't agree with all his votes, but at least he has plenty of political tact.
Also, want to know why we're being critical about Grayson having an offshore account? He raged against it when Romney did it. So that's why we're offended by it. To simply cast it aside after being caught with egg in your face is simple hypocrisy.

[sabrina 1]

76. And without thinking of how they are helping Corporate America to replace him with

one of their own. Who replaced him the last time so-call 'dems' reached for the smelling salts when he spoke frankly about his Repub. opponent? I remember that. So is this the game they want to play? No effing way will I help any Republican or Corporate Dem to replace Grayson if I can help it.

The sheer stupidity of allowing one incident like this cause us to lose a seat where we had an ALLY, becauses 'omg, he said 'shitting' to reporter' is simply stunning to me.

We don't deserve the good Dems who fight for us every day if we don't fight for them them when it's clear they are under attack from the most vile, despicable right wingers we CLAIM to want to defeat.

[iandhr]

73. So

Grayson goes after Republicans for off shore accounts and it turns out he has them as well and you think it doesn't matter? He is a hypocrite. That matters even if he is someone you agree with.

[NaturalHigh]

117. "Plenty of so called experts here on DU"...

who have the same rights to their opinions as you have to yours trumad.

[trumad]

118. Yawn

[cali]

26. hi trum. And I know that hypocrisy doesn't bother you at all

Why care that the guy does what Romney did, sheltering from tax liability? So what if he blasted Romney for what he's doing, right?

[whatchamacallit]

11. He should have followed Hillary's example

and disappeared when the questions got tough.

[Hekate]

9. ...the short political career of Alan Grayson....

This will not go over well.

[sabrina 1]

32. Do the press generally ask, say Jaimie Dimon about his offshore accounts?

Good for Grayson, the hypocrisy of the press when it comes to Wall St Crooks like Dimon eg, is simply stunning. I have a feeling that Grayson's remark will go over well, considering the opinion most people of our 'free press' these days.

No one took on Republicans who wanted to cut SS eg like Grayson.

He puts up with none of their hypocrisy, and he's a great Democrat.

[tjl148]

69. Good for Grayson?

For not putting up with *their* hypocrisy? Then why don't you follow and not put with his?

[sabrina 1]

87. All I care about is his voting record. Last time he 'ran his mouth' about his

Republican opponent, a particulary vile corporate tool, we had the same 'reach for the smelling salts' contingency here on DU. OMG, he can't SAY things like that, it makes us look bad'. So we lost that seat to that horrendous Republican.

What hypocrisy are you talking about? Do you KNOW how many of your favorite Dems have offshore accounts?

Why are they going after this ONE Dem? If you don't know, I do.

So here's my question for you: Do you want to replace Grayson AGAIN,, with a Republican like last time?

And show me ONE perfect politician if you can.

For me, I'll take a Dem like Grayson, with his voting record, over any REPUBLICAN or any CORPORATE DEM who also have their offshore accounts ANY DAY.

Got any idea how many members of Congress have offshore accounts?

Have you wondered at all why Grayson is such a target of Wall St?

Just check his record for the answer.

I want him in that seat voting against Republican policies as he has always done.

Maybe you prefer what happened last time, we get the Republican in his seat AGAIN.

[cali]

103. bullshit. his voting record is nothing special

There are quite a few dems with better voting who are more effective like kieth Ellison or Donna Edwards or zoe Lofgren.

And hell no all dems dont do this. If either Bernie or Leahy did this I'd be outraged and I'd work to see them exposed and defeated.

[TheKentuckian]

171. Maybe "quite a few" but far from most, none in Florida, and certainly better than

the just was a TeaPubliKlan a minute ago Trojan Horse the corporate wing is trying to sub in.

[MADem]

133. What district is Jamie Dimon running in?

Oh wait...he's a private corporate tool.

There's nothing wrong with holding public servants to a slightly higher standard. And even if Grayson didn't answer the question, he didn't have to be a tool about it.

Now all he's done is call negative attention to himself...again. These kinds of histrionics appeal to those "fans" who love to watch a knock-down, drag-out fight, but they don't go over well with the critical mass of rank-and-file voters.

[Renew Deal]

12. There's the answer to why "the party is scared of Alan Grayson."

He's a loose cannon and that's before you get to his personal life.

[okaawhatever]

16. +100 nt

[sabrina 1]

35. Funny, we always do that to our Dems who are willing to tell the truth

about Republicans, to go after the hypocritical press.

All I know is, being 'polite' as you appear to be promoting, hasn't done much for us.

I like fighting Dems. We have so few of them, and we are so sensitive when we find one as willing as he is to take them on.

No wonder we are losing.

[Renew Deal]

51. We have plenty of fighters that act professionally

Warren, Franken, Brown, Wyden on some issues, Boxer, etc.

Grayson doesn't even compare. We don't have to defend him on everything just because he is a. Democrat.

[cali]

65. yep.and plenty more

Keith Ellison, Bernie, DeLauro, Donna Edwards

[sabrina 1]

94. And, so who replaced Grayson the last time the smelling salts crowd on our side

decided he was just too rude to be a member of Congress? I do recall asking them back then who they had in mind to take that seat?

If you don't know the answer to that question, I can help you.

And, btw, how many of our current members of Congress have Offshore Accounts? Got any information on that?

[ann---]

17. His

coarseness does not appeal to me at all.

[sabrina 1]

37. It doesn't appeal to Republicans either. Which is why they spent so much money

trying to defeat him.

There is no more beautiful sight than watching Grayson questioning a Republican on why Americans don't deserve what other civilized countries have.

Same thing with the hypocrigical excuse for journalism we have in this country.

[Baitball Blogger]

19. In all fairness, his hometown paper is the Orlando Sentinel.

They can be shitting robots, sometimes. They will print whatever the inner circle wants printed without performing due diligence. As a result, too many political lawyers and politicians have managed to push through crony programs without any real challenge.

But, in all fairness to the Orlando Sentinel, due diligence requires a level of competency that not many of our municipalities have mastered, either.

[sabrina 1]

41. Have they ever asked any of our Wall St crooks about their Offshore Accounts I wonder?

I don't know, great if they have. But Grayson is a thorn in the side of Wall St AND the MIC Defense contractors, so I would be interested to know how often that same reporter has questioned the Wall St crooks, the Big Corps about the trillions THEY have spirited out of this country.

[Baitball Blogger]

91. The Orlando Sentinel is the kind of paper that would endorse candidates

who were known to be involved in fraud and conspiracy. They didn't just endorse them, they withheld information from the public that was pertinent to the way these people would conduct themselves in their elected positions. So, I dare say that they would probably be on the side of the Wall Streeters if you extrapolate that reference point.

However, the Orlando Sentinel did not write the story regarding Grayson. The tampa bay paper did. And their roots come from a newspaper called the St. Pete Times, that was about as close to a traditional, well-functioning paper that the state of Florida has ever seen.

In other words, I would listen to what they have to say. If Grayson is serious about the Senate, he needs to take into account that he has to appeal to a larger audience.

I don't know why, but the Central Florida Liberals who have high exposure are not what I expected. We are all over the place when it comes to personalities.

[leftynyc]

20. This is why the party

endorsed Murphy. Grayson is a hothead and that remark was disgusting and unworthy of someone running for office. I don't care how pathetically ridiculous the media has become. That whole thing with his marriage left a sour taste in my mouth about him.

[CanonRay]

27. Good for him.

Some of them are shitting robots

[cali]

30. Yeah, how dare a reporter ask him about his hedge fund tax dodging scheme

in the Cayman Islands.

Don't reporters know they should only go after republicans like Mitt for that?

[sabrina 1]

106. Maybe he has asked Debbie Wasserman Schultz about her offshore accounts also?

Or maybe not. Frankly, having worked for a top Dem fundraiser, I know that the wealthy regardless of party affiliation, work hard to protect their wealth, as individuals. And have seen first hand how offshore accounts are very appealing to wealthy individuals.

But that is entirely different from Corporations who profit from our tax dollars in the form of tax breaks for supposedly creating jobs, when in fact they do not, from an individual who is NOT benefiting from those tax breaks for job creation which is what Grayson has been outspoken about. While Wasserman has not. Which may be why HE and not SHE is the target of these 'questions'.

There are other Dems also who have or had offshore accounts. None of them, like Grayson, who have received tax breaks for creating jobs either. I don't feel it is necessary to name them, because like Grayson, their decisions are personal financial decisions and entirely different from Corps who DO receive those tax breaks for doing something they are not doing.

But go right ahead and lose another Dem seat to a Repub, or a Corporate Dem who PROTECTS these corps, if that is what you wish to do.

[sabrina 1]

43. Exactly thank you. I'll worry when they ask Jaimie Dimon about HIS offshore accounts. But I doubt

that is ever likely to happen.

[cali]

47. You are blinded by yr adoration for a hypocrite tax dodger

honestly, this is every bit as baffling as the blind adoration for HRC or President Obama.

He's worse than Dimon because he's such a hypocrite. He rails against this shit and does it. He's a pig.

[MerryBlooms]

80. rec.

[tammywammy]

102. +1 n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

33. Sounds like the reporter was playing "gotcha".

[cali]

39. sounds like the reporter caught him red handed. Jaysus

DU was all over Romney for doing this but with Grayson it's gotcha? Wow.

[sabrina 1]

45. No, it sounds like Grayson was after those Wall St crooks as he has been for quite some time

and yes, it does sound like an attempt at 'gotcha'.

Has this reporter questioned any of the CEOs about the trillions they have spirited away in Offshore Accounts? I did a quick search but didn't find anything.

Grayson is a big thorn in the side of Wall St, MIC Defense Contractors and Republicans who would cut SS while cutting taxes for the wealthy.

So naturally he is a target of their corporate media. Always was.

I'll wait to hear his side of the story.

[cali]

54. Holy self-deception, batman. That's some industrial strength

blind faith right there. Are you actually suggesting he set up hedge funds for investors to limit their tax liability as a sting? There's nothing illegal in what he's doing- it's just sleazy. He copped to it right there in the story. And no, he's not even a tiny thorn in the sides of those folks. He's a joke to them.

There are only two reasons to set up hedge funds in the Cayman Islands; to make money by offering investor's a sleazy way to limit tax liability and make money off of that, and to limit your own tax liability.

Your rationalization of this is just sad; you've been well and thoroughly conned. John Edwards 2.0

[NuclearDem]

58. .

[cali]

71. perfect

[Spitfire of ATJ]

48. It wasn't a tax dodge.

[cali]

60. oh, ok. a way to limit tax liability

I know how this shit works. I travelled to the island of Jersey with someone years ago, with someone who who was sheltering a fair amount of money there

[Spitfire of ATJ]

63. I know too. Not EVERY account there is for crooks.

[cali]

68. I never said that. I said it's a sleazy way to

limit tax liability,and it is. In Grayson's case it looks like it's even sleazier than that. It appears he set up a hedge fund for foreign investors

[Spitfire of ATJ]

74. Hedge funds aren't inherently "evil" either.

[cali]

79. the laundry list of what wrong with them

and how many have been misused is long. If nothing else, id think you'd find troubling that he's doing what he blasted Romney for doing

[Spitfire of ATJ]

89. No. He blasted Romney for being a con artist....

Romney would go into Smallville USA and tell their only industry he was there to help, then tell the local bank that he was there to save the single industry they had. Then he would max out their credit in a massive loan and then shove the wads of money into his pockets and skip town leaving the company owing the bank.

[LanternWaste]

127. What specifically leads you to that conclusion?

What specifically leads you to that conclusion?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

132. It's not the first time Grayson has been cornered by one of these shills.

[seabeyond]

34. and this, is how he loses support. i do not respect that. and not the first time i have seen this

in him

[PowerToThePeople]

42. do as I say, not as I do.

Lead by example.

Bernie 2016!

[kelly1mm]

52. Figures. Grayson tends to lash out when he gets cornered/busted. Hypocrite. nt

[djean111]

53. That's too bad. In any event, I will not vote for Murphy. He is not, IMO, a Democrat.

Except for the "D" on his jersey. I am starting to pay attention to this stuff now.

[drm604]

55. At least it's original.

I don't believe I've ever heard that particular epithet before.

[naoya6161]

59. And this is why...

I'm supporting Murphy over Grayson.

[Android3.14]

61. Well, I guess he's done

Glad we discovered he was not ready for prime time.

[olddots]

67. what a mean thing for him to say .....

some of them are constipated robots......

[azureblue]

72. I love it!

Grayson does what he does well - fires back big time, and does not give an inch. He is a pugnacious attorney and taht is what is needed right now to beat back the Koch puppets in Congress - Democrats who will not only stand up to the GOP attacks but attack them twice as hard. His response was appropriate, especially when the background of this reporter and his paper are taken into consideration.

What is entertaining is right here- the number of people who went personal attack / smear on him, trying to convince everyone that he has shot himself in the foot so we should all forget about him. Oh, yeah, and the piss weak attempts at using this to smear Ms. Clinton. Pathetic. The GOP does not want him in Congress. The heat of these attacks is a dead giveaway... The attack posts, taken in sum, amount to one big up chuck of vitriol. The why is the important question and that is because Grayson will partner with Warren and make the big banks' lives miserable, so they will do anything, including trolling, to try to stop Grayson.

[cali]

77. .so I take it his doing just what Romney did,

and limiting his tax liability by setting up hedge funds in the Caymans, doesn't bother you even though he went after Romney for it?

You must have a high tolerance for hypocrisy.

[AlinPA]

81. The media are sickening and its easy to cheer his remark. Makes me sick when I see the

jerks shoving their recorders in peoples' faces and squawking like stupid geese.

[rjsquirrel]

97. How mature of him

Grayson really is a piece of work. I can't see why he's such a hero to some progressives. He apparently has a mean and bullying temperament. Like Anthony Weiner, he's more an angry voice than any sort of leader.

Who is fooled by this guy?

[SummerSnow]

98. here's a visual...

[sendero]

99. "shitting robots"..

... is a compliment for most of what passes for the press in this country at the present time.

Too bad there aren't more Democrats willing to tell it like it is.

[Warren DeMontague]

100. That's TERRIBLE.

First off, everybody knows robots don't shit.

[valerief]

155. I used to have a toy doll that peed and pooed. But she wasn't a robot. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

156. And let me guess, you tried to give her milk even though the instructions specifically said

only water, and a week later it smelled like dead feet.

[valerief]

157. I tried, but I was too young to lactate.

[Warren DeMontague]

158. BAM!

Right in the strike zone. Well done.

[valerief]

160. I'll be here all week. Please tip your server.

[steve2470]

121. I always did want my very own shitting robot

Thanks Obama!




in case I must

[lonestarnot]

124. Tee hee.

[struggle4progress]

125. Translation: "i'm really not ready for prime time"

[ChiciB1]

130. Say What YOU Want About Him...

BUT he at least STANDS up for us here in Florida!

[Cleita]

131. Good. There are many who use their journalism degrees as cocktail

napkins and they should be called on it.

[Eleanors38]

136. And that would be worn-out batteries?

[Warren DeMontague]

140. WORST. ROBOT IDEA. EVER.

[OneCrazyDiamond]

148. Is it a rightwing paper? n/t

[steve2470]

149. I would not call it left wing, centrist at best nt

[orpupilofnature57]

152. + 1000 !!!

Sanders Warren Grayson,, That would be the Jeffersonian, Utopian, save the world ticket . MSM Misanthropic Sycophant Monsters also have been usurping, misinforming, bilking entity since 9/11 .

[valerief]

154. Ha! We know Congress is full of bullshitting robots. At least, being a shitting robot

is a step up.

[steve2470]

159. ok, to be serious now...

He won't win any awards for tact, that's for sure.

That said, I'll take him over a billion Republicans any day in the US Senate.

[Reter]

161. He's a jerkoff

He's our Bob Dornan.

[bemildred]

176. Awesome candor. nt

[Hepburn]

177. Love me some Grayson!!! n/t

[sabrina 1]

188. Me too. He puts up with no bull from vacuous empty heads in DC or anywhere.

[Lint Head]

178. Stating the truth is now a bad thing? Crude?

What is crude is the "fact" that shitting robots lied us into a war that killed hundreds of thousands and not one has apologized. They are shitting us to this day about current issues. Spin is not just a political operative thing. Former political operatives have even become reporters. Journalism is dead along with freedom of the press.

[cali]

183. No. Flipping out over being asked a question about his hedge funds in the Cayman Islands

is a bad thing. Particularly bad in light of his harshly criticizing others for doing the EXACT same thing.

And it's not just that he's limiting his own tax liability but that he set up a hedge fund for the purpose of aiding others to do the same thing. That he hasn't yet solicited investors for it means nothing. Why set it up to begin with? What he needs to be asked is if he is the titular manager of these two hedge funds, because if he is, that's even sleazier.

He's a hypocrite. I think he's a John Edwards type. Phony.