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MineralMan

(146,346 posts)
Sat May 16, 2015, 01:17 PM May 2015

Creeping Charlie: Enemy or Boon in Your Yard?


Note: Trust me. I'll get to the politics of this later in this post.

I live on a residential street in St. Paul, Minnesota. Made up of homes built soon after WWII, it was and still is home to working families. These days, those families may have last names from all over the planet. But, they're still raising their kids on these quiet streets, just like always. Most of the houses are under 1200 sq. ft. on the main floor, with full basements. Some have been turned into 2400 sq. ft. houses by finishing those basements, but only about half. The houses are 50s and 60s rambler style, usually in entire blocks built by one developer, so they all look a lot alike.

Like many such neighborhoods across the country, each property has a front lawn. For some residents, creating and maintaining a perfect, weed-free lawn of Kentucky bluegrass and fine fescue turf grasses is an important goal. Maybe 20% of the homes in my neighborhood attempt that perfection, with a greater or lesser degree of success. It's hard work and expensive, especially if you hire a landscaping company to keep your lawn looking perfect. It's a choice that some people make.

For other lawns, maybe 60%, regular mowing is about the only real care the lawn receives. These lawns are a mix of grasses, including weed grasses like crabgrass, along with broad-leafed weeds, like dandelions, common violets, plantains, white clover and other weedy things. Right now, yellow dandelion flowers are making a showy splash of color to identify these homeowners. Most will mow before the dandelions go to seed. The 60% lawns look green and lush from a distance, when mowed, but up close, it's quite obvious that they aren't perfect.

Then there are another 20% of lawns in the neighborhood, if you want to call them that. They're LINOs (Lawns In Name Only). They go unmown for weeks sometimes. The dandelions go to seed and other weeds mature and ripen, as well. Eventually, the homeowner fires up the mower and whacks them all down and these lawns look something like the 60% lawns for a while. Often, these owners are working two jobs and just trying to stay on top of mortgage payments. In other cases, they just don't give a damn, and will only mow when provoked to do so by the city or a persistent neighbor.

My lawn? It's one of the 60% lawns. This morning, when I was doing my weekly mowing, I noticed that a patch of the lawn had been invaded by Creeping Charlie. I hadn't noticed it last year, among the many other weeds I mow. But there it is, all pretty little purple tubular flowers and scalloped tiny leaves. "Hmm...," I thought. There were some bees working on the flowers. They like them, along with the white clover and violets already in the lawn. It brought to mind a house a block and a half away, which we pass on our dog walk each afternoon.

That one is a 20% lawn, but all of the grass in the front yard has been replaced over time with Creeping Charlie. The weed has choked out all of the lawn grass. It's actually very pretty as a ground cover and good for the bees. The neglect has led to a rather attractive result, over time. It doesn't need mowing, either. Interesting. A laissez-faire sort of yard.

So, what to do with my Creeping Charlie? Clearly, I'm not in that 20% that insists on a perfect lawn. I don't have the time or energy to do that. I'm also not in the 20% that is willing to let my yard get overgrown and only mow it when there's a threat of action by the city. I'm a 60%er. So, I think I'll just keep mowing weekly and see how the new Creeping Charlie fits into my motley, lawnish front yard. It doesn't look like it will do any harm, and I do like seeing the bees. So, there it will stay.

Politics? Oh, yeah. 20% - 60% - 20%. It's a bell curve, really, just like the lawns in my neighborhood. In the end, the 60% group is the largest group. Most of the lawns near me are in that group. It's pretty much the same in politics across the country. I think it'll probably stay that way, too, regardless of what anyone wants. The 60% ends up dominating the landscape, really.

Thanks for reading!
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Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. I used to be obsessed with my lawn.
Sat May 16, 2015, 01:32 PM
May 2015

I was a 5%er: judiciously mowed, perfectly manicured, weed free. As long as I lived in the Midwest (where I knew the climate), all was good. I recently moved to climate hell, and I frankly couldn't care about the lawn. The soil needs to be covered with something to prevent erosion (we get about 40 inches of rain annually; most of it comes in torrential rains on bone dry soil). So, Creeping Charlie would be my best friend. But, I don't live in a suburban neighborhood, and no one even sees my yard. I have wild violets, clovers, and plants I never saw until moving here. If it's green and healthy, it gets pampered. Everything but the thistle, which we're mandated to control.

If I lived in your house with your yard, that Creeping Charlie would be history. For the bees, I would plant lots of flowers that bloom throughout the spring, summer, and fall. My yucca are in bloom right now with fiery red flowers that attract bees and hummingbirds. Next up will be the myrtle, and they attract thousands of honeybees.

Anyway, best of luck in making your decision.

MineralMan

(146,346 posts)
3. It'll stay.
Sat May 16, 2015, 01:38 PM
May 2015

My neighbors are also 60%ers, so they won't care.

There's even a 1% group of lawns. There are none of those in my neighborhood. They're all over by the lakeshore mansions. The owners do nothing to maintain them themselves. They hire really expensive lawn care companies to keep them perfect. They can. It's easy for them. They wouldn't like my Creeping Charlie, I'm quite sure.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
4. I believe the obsession with lawns is partly to blame for Monarch butterfly decline.
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:26 PM
May 2015

You can't have the picture perfect lawn with milkweed growing in it. Monarchs benefit from Milkweed.

MineralMan

(146,346 posts)
5. We planted some milkweed in a bare space in
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

our backyard, specifically for the Monarchs. It took a while to find the seeds, though.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
8. Creeping Charlie smell good when you step on it or
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:42 PM
May 2015

cut it too. I wish everyone would stop aiming for perfect grass,it's impossible to have without using chemicals and fertilizers, which run off into our lakes.

MineralMan

(146,346 posts)
11. That's true. It's in the mint family.
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:50 PM
May 2015

I read that it makes a good tea, if you dry the leaves. I think I won't bother. I don't drink tea, as a rule.

As a ground cover, it's pretty. I'll just keep mowing and see what happens.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
9. I don't like perfect lawns either but when I put a Democrat in my yard I expect it to be a Democrat
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:44 PM
May 2015

not an Elm.

MineralMan

(146,346 posts)
10. I put yard signs for Democratic candidates I support in my yard.
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:48 PM
May 2015

My wife and I are the only real Democrats in the yard, though, in general. We are Democrats, so I guess we're OK. The dogs don't vote, so I don't know if they're real Democrats or not.

I don't really put anything in my yard, in terms of planting things in the lawn. Stuff just grows there. There were grass and weeds in it when we bought the house, and there are still grass and weeds. I mow everything and call it a lawn.

No elms on my block. There are a few ash trees, though, but the city's about to cut them all down. The Emerald Ash Borer is spreading in St. Paul, so they're removing all the ash trees along the street. Our street trees are flowering crab apples.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,964 posts)
12. Bees like it, so if it's in my yard it gets to live.
Sat May 16, 2015, 03:25 PM
May 2015

So do dandelions until after they've flowered. So do lamium, wild violets and Virginia waterleaf, all of which have more or less taken over my yard. If it flowers it stays. I no longer have any turf grass - it's high maintenance, requiring water, fertilizer and mowing; and it gives nothing back. People started growing grassy yards because the great estates in England had vast expanses of grass upon which to display fountains and topiary and other rich-people stuff. They had servants and sheep to take care of the grass (and no chemicals). We are trying to create little mini-estates with pristine, weedless lawns and it's kind of pointless. If people want a lawn for kids to play on or to have picnics on or whatever, fine - but I wish they wouldn't go nuts with the fertilizers and pesticides (like my next-door neighbor, who hates my wildflowers). If one doesn't fertilize and water so much, frequent mowing (often with noisy, gas-burning power mowers) isn't necessary. A low/no-mow grass has been developed: http://www.stlouispark.org/webfiles/file/public-works/no_mow_grass_fact_sheet.pdf You hardly ever have to mow or do much of anything with it. But flowers are better.

MineralMan

(146,346 posts)
13. That's my philosophy, as well.
Sat May 16, 2015, 03:46 PM
May 2015

I mow, because it rains here and the grass grows fast. I mow once a week. It cuts off the dandelion flowers and keeps the other flowering plants at the same height as the grass. The whole thing looks like a lawn from the street, and that's good enough for me. Fortunately, the neighbors on both sides do the same, so nobody cares if there are dandelions and the other stuff.

I don't need a golf course turf. The lawn helps keep the mud out of the house. I don't fertilize. I mulch when I mow, and that provides enough nutrients. We also feed birds heavily, so there are weeds from the bird seed, too. I mow them, too.

MineralMan don't care!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,964 posts)
14. Great! You might want to have a look at the low mow-no mow grass.
Sat May 16, 2015, 04:22 PM
May 2015

Sounds like a great work saver; it doesn't need a lot of water and is said to be almost indestructible. You can seed it in the fall over existing grass and it will eventually take over. My brother's next door neighbor (in a St. Paul suburb) has one of those smooth, flawless lawns where it looks like somebody removes every weed with a tweezers, and a lawn service regularly dumps all manner of chemicals on it. It looks exactly like Astroturf. If that's the look they want, why don't they just dig up the whole damn thing and install actual Astroturf? I don't get it...

MineralMan

(146,346 posts)
15. I think it's probably cheaper to leave
Sat May 16, 2015, 07:39 PM
May 2015

My funky weed filled lawn as it is. I don't mind mowing once a week.

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