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brooklynite

(94,517 posts)
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:22 PM May 2015

Hillary Clinton in Iowa: I Want To Be A Small Business President

http://blog.4president.org/2016/2015/05/hillary-clinton-in-iowa-i-want-to-be-a-small-business-president.html

At a roundtable with small business owners in a bike shop in Cedar Falls today, Hillary Clinton discussed the groundwork for her plan to alleviate the burdens of starting and running small businesses in America. Clinton’s focus on small businesses will continue to be a crucial component of her fight to help families get ahead and stay ahead.

Clinton outlined four key elements of the plan: cutting red tape for small businesses and entrepreneurs, expanding access to capital, simplifying taxes and implementing tax relief for small businesses, and expanding access to new markets.

Specifically, Clinton focused today on providing relief to community banks that are being squeezed by regulations that don’t make sense for their size and mission and doing it without harming consumers. She also criticized Republican proposals that would roll back critical protections for Americans against the excesses of Wall Street’s biggest banks.

A transcript of her remarks is included below:
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Hillary Clinton in Iowa: I Want To Be A Small Business President (Original Post) brooklynite May 2015 OP
Oh, this is rich. Pun intended. Just read Bernie's list of 18 corporate scofflaws libdem4life May 2015 #1
What, I wonder, does that have to do with what Clinton said? MineralMan May 2015 #3
Of course I did...It was a bit striking that the major sponsors and FOB&H are pretty comparable to libdem4life May 2015 #10
I'm listening to what the candidates are saying. MineralMan May 2015 #15
Both are speaking to the business community...it's relevant. While he's calling out her friends, libdem4life May 2015 #22
Has there ever been a politician hfojvt May 2015 #35
tax relief to biz to create jobs? fucking republican platform crap. elehhhhna May 2015 #42
Why is it a bad idea to incentivize small businesses to hire people? DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #47
Well, mainly because it doesn't work. Businesses learn quickly to game the system by Nay May 2015 #55
Reading the transcript, I like what she said. MineralMan May 2015 #2
She's right on about that MaggieD May 2015 #4
I have had several small businesses. The complexity MineralMan May 2015 #5
I hear you on that! MaggieD May 2015 #8
My businesses have been successful. My current business is as well. MineralMan May 2015 #14
I did pretty much the same in my private forensic practice. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #30
My habit has been to start a new business MineralMan May 2015 #41
Nice trick, but I got myself sort of overspecialized. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #54
Have things really changed that much? Small businesses are as likely to vote R as not. Even when jwirr May 2015 #6
That's not really so. I've been a small business person, MineralMan May 2015 #7
You are right - but try growing up in Iowa. It was mostly a red governed state. And much of it still jwirr May 2015 #16
No, I disagree MaggieD May 2015 #11
So Goldman Sachs is a small business? KamaAina May 2015 #9
You're better than that, my compatriot./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #13
Again, what did she say today? MineralMan May 2015 #17
I'm comparing what she said today to her corporate past. KamaAina May 2015 #25
Talk is cheap; actions speak louder than words. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2015 #28
She is running a strategically and tactically brilliant campaign. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #12
She's on track with her goals right now. MineralMan May 2015 #19
GOP telling their base that Jesus would be a Republican bulls**t Iliyah May 2015 #21
"At a roundtable with small business owners..." cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #18
Well except she was very explicit.... MaggieD May 2015 #20
These "solutions" sound like they could have come from Heritage or Cato verbatim Doctor_J May 2015 #23
Say some regular Joe or Jane wants to open a pizza parlor. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #24
Not if you're Herman Cain. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #31
what does "easy" mean? nt JanMichael May 2015 #33
It shouldn't be unnecessary burdensome... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #34
unnecessary burden? that is undefined. name a large common one please. nt JanMichael May 2015 #40
Regulations and getting this or that JonLP24 May 2015 #29
yep red tape like keeping a freezer at a certain temp to prevent disease and codes for making... JanMichael May 2015 #32
Red tape for small business is designed to keep them out of business so rightwing owned randys1 May 2015 #26
Good for her. Small businesses can use an advocate. hrmjustin May 2015 #27
Sm Buis = 500 Employees or $7.5 Million in receipts One_Life_To_Give May 2015 #36
She made $30 million in the past 16 months. moondust May 2015 #37
Surreal. n/t Wilms May 2015 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #39
She's a third of the way there hootinholler May 2015 #43
She going to be president by kicking her Republican opponent's ass seven fucking ways to Sunday... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #44
I seriously doubt that she will be the nominee. n/t hootinholler May 2015 #46
A thousand dollar verifiable donation to the charity of the winner's choice she wins the nomination* DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #48
No thanks hootinholler May 2015 #49
Thought so... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #50
Have a great night hootinholler May 2015 #51
Have a great night as well. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #52
. Autumn May 2015 #45
Thanks for your post, small businesses does not have the lobby power of big businesses. Thinkingabout May 2015 #53

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
3. What, I wonder, does that have to do with what Clinton said?
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:33 PM
May 2015

Can you explain? The two are talking about completely different things.

There's no conflict in this. The subjects are different. Did you read Clinton's actual remarks? She was talking exclusively about small businesses. Sanders was talking about huge corporations. Let's compare similar things, OK?

Your post is completely off this topic.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. Of course I did...It was a bit striking that the major sponsors and FOB&H are pretty comparable to
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:50 PM
May 2015

Bernie's List. My mind took a leap from one to the other and made the connection. (I'm still undecided, but leaning now.)

Words and what's on the record ... before or after ... are often two or three different positions. Bernie takes names and numbers. Hillary nuances everything up and has not spoken much to these issues...that I've noticed, anyway, until Bernie and Elizabeth started shaking the Progressives awake and getting press. Also, note the venue ... I doubt she charged them her "usual speaking fee".

I see her as a Hillary Come Lately or Me Too...way too much. At least she's been listening, but the wet finger in the air positions aren't impressive...or lasting, IMO

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
15. I'm listening to what the candidates are saying.
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:55 PM
May 2015

I'm a big fan of Senator Sanders. I see nothing connecting his remarks to Clinton's remarks. Different subjects altogether. I'm sure he's in favor of helping small businesses, too. But that's not what he was talking about. I tend to compare like with like.

Good luck to you.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
22. Both are speaking to the business community...it's relevant. While he's calling out her friends,
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:36 PM
May 2015

she's talking to the victims of her friend's banking practices, with a grand plan. Trust her, she's going to tell her friends to play nice, once she's President.

Also, what's becoming a DU disclaimer...I'll vote for the Democratic candidate whoever that is.






hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
35. Has there ever been a politician
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:23 PM
May 2015

who didn't pay lip service to small business?

Funny thing is, in the definition of "small" it includes a whole lot of large businesses.

And Hillary, as usual, carried the Norquist anti-tax message.

"Second, we need to simplify tax filing and provide targeted credits and deductions for small businesses, "

When I close my eyes, that sounds like Sam Brownback talking. Why he completely eliminated taxes for small businesses in Kansas.

Happened to give much of the money to rich people when he did it, but I am sure that was just an accident. I am not a betting man, but if I was, I would bet that when all is said and done, Hillary's proposals on that will mostly benefit rich people too.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
47. Why is it a bad idea to incentivize small businesses to hire people?
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:58 PM
May 2015

I would set it up where if they hire the unemployed or first time workers and provide training they get a tax credit.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
55. Well, mainly because it doesn't work. Businesses learn quickly to game the system by
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:01 AM
May 2015

rotating workers in and out so they can get money for 'new workers.' They get money for training that often isn't carried out or is very superficial. They get to pay reduced wages (taxpayers pick up the rest) and then get to fire the person when 'they didn't work out.' It's an elaborate giveaway to businesses that, often as not, are not small business.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
4. She's right on about that
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:38 PM
May 2015

About time a candidate stood up for small businesses. Bravo! And she is exactly right about the changes that need to be made.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
5. I have had several small businesses. The complexity
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:39 PM
May 2015

of that caused me to avoid doing many things, including hiring people. I kept my businesses to what I could do by myself. There was no chance to borrow for those businesses. I had to beg just to get a merchant account so I could accept credit card payments. My bank, Wells Fargo, actually laughed at me when I asked about that subject.

So, I stayed a one-person business for each of them. Growing was not really possible, since I would have had to spend more time dealing with paperwork than business.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
8. I hear you on that!
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:48 PM
May 2015

It is hard given all the regulations. I managed to do it, but it was a lot of hassle. Politicians that say they are pro-business almost always end up being pro BIG business. Nice to hear at least one of them say they understand what needs to be done to help SMALL businesses. My congress person is that way too, and I really appreciate her for that. Trouble is nothing gets through congress these days.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
14. My businesses have been successful. My current business is as well.
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:53 PM
May 2015

My decision to stay small, with just myself involved, was based on how much time I'd have to spend doing paperwork, rather than actually doing business. I decided that I'd be happier just working for myself, doing all of the tasks required. That worked OK, but I could have grown, had I been willing to take on the additional hassles.

My decision was not to do that. I'm probably a happier person for it, but not as well-off as I might have been had I actually worked to grow the businesses. If, instead of bootstrapping them all, I might have borrowed capital to grow. That would have been necessary, since the small scale limited what was feasible.

Oh, well. I did what I did, and made the decisions I made. Too late to rethink things now.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
30. I did pretty much the same in my private forensic practice.
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:05 PM
May 2015

Became a single-owner LLC & occasionally paid a Masters-level guy with lots of experience to function as my psychometrician for a few hours now & then on demand, as an independent contractor. I would send him out to jails or wherever to do the psych testing before I met with the examinees. I could never have afforded an actual hourly employee, nor kept one busy. After a few occasions of overloading myself with work, I learned to keep it at a comfortable level. I didn't get rich, but I never intended to.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
41. My habit has been to start a new business
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:36 PM
May 2015

every ten years or so, completely different from the previous one. I'd piggy back it on the other business, and then switch to it and let the other one go. It was interesting, because I learned something new each time. All along, though, my magazine writing continued, providing a reliable cushion. It was fun, interesting and kept me on my toes and learning constantly. No riches, though.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
54. Nice trick, but I got myself sort of overspecialized.
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:25 PM
May 2015

And then dug myself in deeper.

The one thing I can say is that at one time or another, I filled most of the roles available to a psychologist--academic researcher, hospital practice, supervised a number of outpatient clinics, outpatient assessment & therapy, chief regional psychologist in Corrections, and the last 8 years in a private criminal forensic practice.

I walked away from it all at the end of this past January & am having no problem keeping myself occupied.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. Have things really changed that much? Small businesses are as likely to vote R as not. Even when
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:41 PM
May 2015

it hurts them they tend to support R economics. Or at least that is the way it used to be.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
7. That's not really so. I've been a small business person,
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:44 PM
May 2015

and have known many others. Most were Democrats. Besides, small businesses don't vote. People vote. Small business owners vote. Their employees vote. Your statement is, I think, too general. Some small business owners for for Republicans. Others vote for Democrats. General statements without qualifiers are pretty much usually incorrect. You'll find many small business owners right here on DU.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. You are right - but try growing up in Iowa. It was mostly a red governed state. And much of it still
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:56 PM
May 2015

is.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
11. No, I disagree
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:50 PM
May 2015

Small business owners are just as apt to vote D as they are R. I do business to business consulting (all small businesses) and my clientele is pretty equally mixed when it comes to which party they prefer.

Heck, she might even attract some typically R small business owners since no other candidate is talking about how to help small businesses.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. She is running a strategically and tactically brilliant campaign.
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:51 PM
May 2015

She is addressing the concerns of traditional Democratic constituencies while trying to reach new ones, all while the Republicans are flailing away.


Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
21. GOP telling their base that Jesus would be a Republican bulls**t
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:24 PM
May 2015

And that errr, Iraqi was or wasn't a mistake? And, its all Obama's fault! Further, Benghazi, E-Mail Gate and HRC's secret ancestral beginnings while being a women.

The end of times!

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
20. Well except she was very explicit....
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:08 PM
May 2015

About the steps that she would take. If she was just blowing smoke I can't see why she would be that specific.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
23. These "solutions" sound like they could have come from Heritage or Cato verbatim
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:05 PM
May 2015

cutting red tape for small businesses and entrepreneurs - Get government bureaucrats off my back!
expanding access to capital - I like this one, I think
simplifying taxes and implementing tax relief for small businesses - tax cuts? tax relief?
expanding access to new market - Guess that clears up her TPP stance

Idea sounds great, but the language of the solutions is too libertarian for my taste

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
24. Say some regular Joe or Jane wants to open a pizza parlor.
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:26 PM
May 2015

Doesn't it make sense to make it as easy for him or her as possible?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
34. It shouldn't be unnecessary burdensome...
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:17 PM
May 2015

My old man had a ninth grade education. He was for all intents emancipated at fifteen years old...Later in his life he opened up a candy store...I'm glad entry wasn't unnecessary burdensome.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
29. Regulations and getting this or that
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:59 PM
May 2015

is very difficult when starting a small business. I wouldn't mind sensible solutions but I know someone who started an auto glass business and it wasn't easy starting up and keeping it difficult for entrepreneurs just creates more of a monopoly for the bigger businesses. That said, I support Sanders too.

JanMichael

(24,885 posts)
32. yep red tape like keeping a freezer at a certain temp to prevent disease and codes for making...
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:11 PM
May 2015

...sure circuits and breakers are safe.

I agree the language is lousy.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. Red tape for small business is designed to keep them out of business so rightwing owned
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:55 PM
May 2015

big business can continue to own everything, like Walmart.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
36. Sm Buis = 500 Employees or $7.5 Million in receipts
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:24 PM
May 2015

If you are like me I think of small business as fewer than 20 employees. A Mom and Pop convenience store for example. 500 employees is not big nor is it small. Their problems IMO are distinctly different from a place with 5 employees though.

Note numbers taken from US Small Business Administration

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
43. She's a third of the way there
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:43 PM
May 2015

She's got the business part. I don't know how she's going to get smaller or be president.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
44. She going to be president by kicking her Republican opponent's ass seven fucking ways to Sunday...
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:48 PM
May 2015

She going to be president by kicking her Republicant opponent's ass seven fucking ways to Sunday, that's how...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
48. A thousand dollar verifiable donation to the charity of the winner's choice she wins the nomination*
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:03 PM
May 2015

Here's the charity I want my donation to go to:

http://sabancommunityclinic.org/



Game


Set


Match



* I don't have much money at all but i will start saving now just in case...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
50. Thought so...
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:16 PM
May 2015

Find an interlocutor who walks around with a "kick me " sign on his ass...I don't walk around with one in real life and sure as Hell aren't going to walk around with one on the "internets"


Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
53. Thanks for your post, small businesses does not have the lobby power of big businesses.
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:29 PM
May 2015

It is very hard to start a business and the owners makes great sacrifices to get the business off the ground. To give assistance to the small businesses to get going by making funding available without a lot of red tape would be great.

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