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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLiquid Plutonium Destined for Your Kid’s Cereal—Courtesy of NAFTA/TPP-TTIP/ISDS?
OK, it's a hypothetical, but the NAFTA lawyer quote is pretty creepy anyway.
http://www.nationofchange.org/2015/05/20/liquid-plutonium-destined-for-your-kids-cereal-courtesy-of-naftatpp-ttipisds/
It wouldnt matter if a substance was liquid plutonium destined for a childs breakfast cereal. If the government bans a product and a US based company loses profits, the company can claim damages under NAFTA.
(Source : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/14/trade-deal-food-safety- n7287622.html )
This bone-chilling response came from a corporate attorney working for the Ethyl Corporation, during a 1997 NAFTA challenge against the Canadian government. Canada had outlawed the gasoline additive MMT over possible health concerns. Ethyl was the U.S. corporation that produced the gasoline additive MMT which had been banned in Canada. Ethyl corporation brought its objections to the international arbitration panel under the Investor-State Dispute Settlement system, aka ISDS; to claim damages for lost profits, under NAFTA. Ethyl argued that the law banning this additive was
tantamount to expropriation. (Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/14/trade-deal-food-safety-_n_7287622.html)
Under NAFTAEthyl won and consumers lost. The Canadian government had to transfer 13 million from taxpayers to Ethyl. The Canadian peoples right to self-govern was nullified by this corporate pseudo-legal theft. Concerns over possible health damage or even the right of self-governance were sacrificed to the gods of corporate profits. Subsequently the callous arrogance of the liquid plutonium in Juniors Captain Crunch commentary, merely matched the arrogance of this new class of corporate royalistsnamely the arbitrators of the Investor-State Dispute Settlement industry, akaISDS.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)THIS is why corporations have no place in government.
Governments should exist to serve people.
Corporations exist to grow their own profit and power.
When corporations get tentacles into government, they USE PEOPLE for their own profit and power. They exploit. And they kill.
It is evil. It is wrong. Enough is enough.
Get this Third Way corporate cancer OUT of our party. Get filthy corporate money OUT of our government.
Bernie is right. It is way past time for a political revolution.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)They're the ones who made and sold the lead that was put into gasoline.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Don't go overboard with the crazy talk.
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Really. Was the click bait post title necessary?
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Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts).. alerted on as "peddling paranoid fantasies".
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)its been a long time coming
http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2007/01/08/plutonomics/
they deserve it
hard work being rich
makes me think of Sam Cooke
there better
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)authority.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)for the sake of big corporations
it was a dress rehearsal for back home
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracazo
http://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/29/world/riots-in-santo-domingo-renew-debate-on-imf.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Menem
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)these Corrupt Corporations only to be called everything from a CT to Ignorant, to anti-Obama, and those are the mild attacks people who actually care about this country are subjected.
I'm coming to the conclusion that I should just use the information I have to protect my own family and let the whole thing happen to those who so adamantly defend the Corporate Takeover of their country.
If they won't take the trouble to look at what was done to Third World Countries and see that Corporate invasion now headed in their direction, why should we care?
But one thing I will do is to cheerfully say 'I told you so' when these powers now moving through Congress with Obama supporters ignoring the fact that HE won't be the one to benefit from them, when the next Republican President negotiates the end of our Enviromental Laws with NO input from Congress.
We sure can never claim 'but the people didn't know' can we?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Don't want to disturb the natural order.
randome
(34,845 posts)No one will be forced to accept whatever the hell a company wants to put in a product. So long as our safety regulations are applied uniformly to all signatories, then no corporation has a legal leg to stand on.
I'm pretty sure radioactive material is widely identified as a health risk so...no.
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Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)... applied evenly or not. Canada banned a substance, MMT, they found to be harmful, and because Ethyl Corporation lost anticipated profits, Ethyl Corporation won a $13 million judgement, exempt from any judicial appeal.
It was the Ethyl Corporation attorney who made the statement that you are labeling "mindless fear-mongering. No one will be forced to accept whatever the hell a company wants to put in a product." and he WON THE CASE, and Ethyl Corporation received $13 million without having to produce anything of value.
Face the facts. The ISDR system is based on the presumption that corporations own the rights to anticipated profits from whatever they propose tpo do, and that any democratic government that has the audacity to pass environmental, labor, financial, or other regulations that negatively impact a corporation's future anticipated profits, must compensate the corporation for loss of those anticipated profits.