Bernie's campaign mgr has run 5 presidential campaigns

[MaggieD]

And lost every one of them. What makes his supporters think the sixth time will be the charm?

[Vincardog]

1. This is the first Bernie has been the candidate. HRC ran before and lost, past is prolog.

[eloydude]

2. Yes. Statistics shows that has-rans often poll poorly when the voters REMEMBER why they didnt vote

for her in the first place..

And that'll happen when Clinton triangulates or makes a gaffe.

[madokie]

5. Not to those who wish that

Bernie wouldn't have challenged her. If I remember right Hillary was all but sworn in before Obama came along the last time and put a stop to that nonsense.

Bernie has this one to lose. As people become familiar with him its katy-bar the door cause he'll win this one with a huge landslide.

[Vincardog]

8. He'll win this one with a huge landslide. When WE make people become familiar with him. I

Talk him up everywhere I go. I just need some handouts to help sell his POLICIES.

[madokie]

9. Yup me too

I"m talking him up as much as I can and believe me I can do some talking

[Vincardog]

10. Good on ya

[Jackpine Radical]

33. Try this site.

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/bernie_sanders.htm

There's more at that site, but here's a beginning:

Voted NO on restricting UN funding for population control policies. (Mar 2009)
Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
Voted NO on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
Voted YES on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
Voted NO on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
Voted YES on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
Voted NO on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
Voted NO on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
Voted NO on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
Emergency contraception for rape victims at all hospitals. (Sep 2006)
Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)
Provide emergency contraception at military facilities. (Apr 2007)
Require pharmacies to fulfill contraceptive prescriptions. (Jul 2011)
Ban anti-abortion limitations on abortion services. (Nov 2013)
Protect the reproductive rights of women. (Jan 1993)
Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)

[Vincardog]

36. Thanks

[Jackpine Radical]

40. Here are Bernie's Twelve StepsForward:

Rebuilding Our Crumbling Infrastructure
Reversing Climate Change
Creating Worker Co-ops
Growing the Trade Union Movement
Raising the Minimum Wage
Pay Equity for Women Workers
Trade Policies that Benefit American Workers
Making College Affordable for All
Taking on Wall Street
Health Care as a Right for All
Protecting the Most Vulnerable Americans
Real Tax Reform

Details on the 12 points at
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/agenda/

[blue neen]

45. Thank you for the helpful post.

This is the kind of information we need to make an educated decision about who to vote for in the primaries....and it was done without getting rude and nasty about any other candidates.

[Thinkingabout]

28. I have welcomed a challenger, others have also. If you have a valid link where

Hillary has discouraged Bernie from running I would very much like to see it. How does it help Bernie for this to be thrown out over and over. I think there will be more to enter the primaries. We can run a first class primary in the DNC.

[MaggieD]

12. So you think Tad's luck will FINALLY change?

I don't.

[Vincardog]

14. It is not about TAD. Bernie is the candidate.

[INdemo]

43. How many Republicans are posting here on this forum

Could we have a show of hands?

[MaggieD]

49. Plenty apparently

This the in place to be if you want to smear Obama, HRC, and half the Democrats in congress. Bonus point too if they use right wing talking points to do it.

[cherokeeprogressive]

3. Hope.

Change.

[Scootaloo]

4. It REALLY pisses you off to no end that there's a candidate besides Clinton, doesn't it?

[madokie]

7. If past O P's is an indication I would say Yes

you are so right on that.

[L0oniX]

13. ^^^this^^^

[MaggieD]

15. Pisses me off that Bernie supporters lie about her

Like that BS OP that a Monsanto lobbyist is running her campaign. Would it piss you off if I started posting lies about Bernie?

[hootinholler]

18. That's just silly

Everyone know that Cthulhu is running it.

[darkangel218]

39. Lmao!!!!

[Scootaloo]

31. We're talking about the OP you started, MaggieD. Stay on topic, if you can.

[MaggieD]

32. I thought the topic was what pisses me off

I mean you said, "it really pisses you off...."

So you didn't really want to know? Oops, sorry.

[cali]

47. well, bless your heart.

cuz YOU never lie.

You're just the truthiest person I've ever encountered.

[hifiguy]

16. Eeyup.

Nailed it, Scoots.

[neverforget]

19. that and a little

[arcane1]

24. They broke 14 years of silence, it pisses them off so much

[840high]

27. X+10

[deutsey]

48. It sure seems like it

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I like Tad Devine... It is interesting Bernie made such a conventional choice./NT

[procon]

11. I had a similar thought when I first read who he picked.

Al Gore, John Kerry, and Michael Dukakis... I dunno, is this the best choice out there, does he work cheap, did Clinton take everyone else?

[MaggieD]

17. I heard Tad talked him into running

Maybe Tad needs the money. If you can't win when you rep three separate Dem nominees then you're a loser. IMO.

[hootinholler]

21. Gore and Kerry both won

If the votes had been properly counted.

[Scootaloo]

34. Carefull, you'll piss off the Du Bush League

[AtomicKitten]

20. Hillary ran for president and lost. What makes you think a second time will be successful?

Do you think people are going to forget what assholes she and her husband were during her last presidential campaign? If you think bygones are bygones, think again.

For the record, Bernie has never run for president. On reelection to the Senate in 2012, however, he won with 71% of the vote.

[INdemo]

22. Wrong ...John Kerry WON

It was stolen by the Ohio Sec Of State ..remember 400,000 votes missing and not counted ???

[MohRokTah]

26. More CT bullshit in GD.

[arcane1]

23. Hillary has already lost one primary. What makes her supporters think 2nd time is the charm?

See how easy that is?

[drray23]

25. bernie does not have enough money to hire top operators and the staff needed to run in 50 states.

he will barely make it past the first couple primaries and then his organisation will collapse. like it or not this is the reality of politics and it has gotten worse under citizen united. Air time is not free. Staffers are not free, the IT infrastructure needed to canvas and get the votes is not free. its not enough to have the conviction and the right ideas (which he probably does). if nobody can hear you because your opponents control the narrative via the media you are done for.

[MaggieD]

30. That's right

It's a eff'ed up system but unless we want to give the republicans control of all branches of government, we have to deal with it.

[Scootaloo]

35. What does that even mean?

Explain to me how the alternative to campaign finance reform is "REPUBLICANS!"?

[demwing]

46. Then Hillary has nothing to worry about, right?

so the point of this OP is?

[hrmjustin]

29. Tad Devine?

Always liked him but yes he doesn't have a great presidential track record.

[INdemo]

41. John Kerry won the 2004 election

There were about 400,000 votes that were not counted for John Kerry and about 140,000 other votes that were deemed provisional by the Ohio Sec of State and not counted.
Terry McAuliffe was the DNC chairman at the time and he did not question the results in detail because he was casting his sights on his dear friend and candidate Hillary Clinton for 2008.

And wait a minute Al Gore won and we all know what happen so actually is 2-0 in Presidential election victories.

[Aerows]

37. I'm going to vote for who I damn well

want to vote for in the Primary, and so far, that's Sanders. If someone else tosses their hat into the ring, I'll evaluate their candidacy, too.

I'm a voter, not an anoint-er.

[whatchamacallit]

38. This is so fucking stupid

Don't you have anything better to do than crap all over this forum?

[Mnpaul]

42. It is all they have

They can't attack him on his positions and there are no flip flops to talk about. No corrupt ties either.

[cali]

44. such a relief you're no longer pretending to like bernie

and using that as a platform to attack him