The Duggar scandal keeps exploding...

[Archae]

Now it's been exposed that the guy who gave Josh Duggar a "stern talking to" for his molesting his sisters was an ex-cop who is serving a 56-year jail sentence for having child pornography.

(Josh) Duggar at the time was a minor. But where the story takes a more complicated and perhaps sinister turn is the behavior of his parents, Jim Bob and Michelle. The Duggars apparently told the elders of their church about the incidents in question but not local police authorities.

Later they claimed that they had sent Josh to a Christian counseling program to cure him of whatever was driving his abusive behavior. But under police questioning, Michele Duggar admitted that it wasn't a counseling program at all but rather "a guy they know in Little Rock that is remodeling a building."

The interviewing detective asked if the remodeling guy was a "mentor" and Duggar said "kind of."

What?

When Josh returned from his time with the mentor in Little Rock, father Jim Bob along with a group of church elders took Josh to talk to Arkansas State Trooper, Jim Hutchens, a personal friend of Jim Bob's. Hutchens took no official action and apparently made no report of the incident but rather had a "stern talk" with Josh.

Alas, former state trooper Hutchens is now serving hard time on child pornography charges. He was originally sent to prison two years after the stern talk, released and then convicted again in 2010. He is currently serving a 56 year term. So he may not have been the best person to have Josh talk to.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/duggar-spawn-family-research-council-leader-resigns-over-molestation-charges

[randys1]

1. These filthy disgusting pukes spend their lives alleging Gay folks are pedophiles

[cali]

5. Let me fix that for you:

These filthy disgusting pukes spend their lives lying that Gay folks are pedophiles

[Archae]

6. Gays CAN be. But they aren't all pedophiles.

Last edited Fri May 22, 2015, 08:12 PM - Edit history (1)

NAMBLA is not just some right-wing fantasy, it does exist.

But according to most criminologists, the majority of child molesters are hetero males, usually relatives of the victims.

[PeaceNikki]

14. Wrong. Pedophiles are not gay or straight. They're pedophiles.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/10-myths

But research by A. Nicholas Groth, a pioneer in the field of sexual abuse of children, shows that is not so. Groth found that there are two types of child molesters: fixated and regressive. The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes. Regressive child molesters are generally attracted to other adults, but may "regress" to focusing on children when confronted with stressful situations. Groth found, as Herek notes, that the majority of regressed offenders were heterosexual in their adult relationships.

The Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends, and the majority are men married to women. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests.

Some anti-gay ideologues cite ACPeds’ opposition to same-sex parenting as if the organization were a legitimate professional body. In fact, the so-called college is a tiny breakaway faction of the similarly named, 60,000-member American Academy of Pediatrics that requires, as a condition of membership, that joiners "hold true to the group's core beliefs ... [including] that the traditional family unit, headed by an opposite-sex couple, poses far fewer risk factors in the adoption and raising of children." The group's 2010 publication Facts About Youth was described by the American Academy of Pediatrics as not acknowledging scientific and medical evidence with regard to sexual orientation, sexual identity and health, or effective health education. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, was one of several legitimate researchers who said ACPeds misrepresented the institutes’ findings. “It is disturbing to me to see special interest groups distort my scientific observations to make a point against homosexuality,” he wrote. “The information they present is misleading and incorrect.” Another critic of ACPeds is Dr. Gary Remafedi, a researcher at the University of Minnesota who wrote a letter to ACPeds rebuking the organization for misusing his research.

In spite of all this, the anti-LGBT right continues to peddle this harmful and baseless myth, which is probably the leading defamatory charge leveled against gay people.

You should edit that again, it's horrifying to read on DU. NAMBLA is not gay men, they are pedophiles.

[REP]

18. They're pedophiles who prey on boys and girls alike

I agree with what you said and wanted to re-emphasize that these predators rape children of both sexes.

[Archae]

21. I agree also.

Pedophiles are pedophiles.

But believe it or not, there is a hetero counterpart to NAMBLA.

They call themselves the "Rene Guyon Society."

Their motto is "Sex before eight, or else it's too late!"

Wikipedia calls the group "possibly mythical," but there was a scandal in Milwaukee where a group of pedos had pamphlets from the group, years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Guyon_Society

[Butterbean]

2. A thought that keeps nagging at me

about this whole thing is that most juvenile sex offenders are demonstrating learned behavior. My mom works with juvenile sex offenders and their victims, and the offenders are almost always victims themselves. So what's bothering me is, is Josh a victim as well, and if so, who is the perp? I think there are many more skeletons waiting to be dragged out of the Duggar closet.

[winter is coming]

8. +1,000,000. n/t

[malaise]

9. Watch them scatter like roaches in daylight

And let me add a little Palin - you betcha!!!

[libdem4life]

10. To be sure...it is not nature, it's nurture...and that brings in the parents...who are responsible

Perhaps as molesters, surely enablers, and unbelievable failure as parents.

[monmouth4]

11. Most definitely. This story isn't over by a longshot..n/t

[SoCalDem]

13. that , and the fact that LOTS of "adults" seemed to know

about his "mistakeS" at the time they happened (or soon after) and yet NONE of them thought it was a big deal..

and that their rabid version of homeschooling kept a concerned teacher from hearing a kindergartner tell a friend about the nighttime touching..

[hrmjustin]

15. Yes this is a good point.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. I got the feeling that somebody will be going to jail

before this is over.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

4. I suddenly started hearing Dueling Banjos. Is this happening to anyone else? nt

[countryjake]

17. Nah, I'm hearing "Onward Christian Soldiers".

The patriarchy of the Quiverfull movement demands that they produce a multitude of children as foot soldiers to build Christ's kingdom on earth.

[hifiguy]

7. The best screenwriters in filmdom could not dream up this kind of shit

if they were zonked to the gills on Owsley Stanley's finest acid. It wouldn't even seem plausible then.

Even David Lynch would think this is too weird to be a screenplay.

[Skittles]

12. they need to find out who abused Josh

yup

[In_The_Wind]

16. I agree.

[gollygee]

19. Well they apparently have a close family friend

who is into child pornography. Might start by questioning him.

[KG]

20. they also need to get his kids out of his house