What will happen to Josh Duggar?

[xfundy]

Will he find happiness by once again bashing those who choose to live without lying about who they are?

Will he find redemption and widespread acclaim for admitting his "mistake" without commenting on or caring about the harm done to his victims?

Will he learn to keep his bigoted fucking mouth shut, change his name, and start over in a new identity?

Will his family disown him in an attempt to grift more money from tv shows?

[shenmue]

1. Hopefully

something involving eternity and pitchforks.

[xfundy]

3. I think that's a given.

My thoughts are that the family will disown him, if they haven't already. Can you imagine the conversations going on in that home right now, and the blame being passed around? "Jimbob shouldn't have called the cops." "The girls should have kept quiet." "Josh shouldn't have admitted anything." "The librul media is to blame!" "The devil is to blame!!!1" "Gothard warned us about this! He should never have changed diapers!"

[shenmue]

15. Oh yeah

[ScreamingMeemie]

2. This is not "forgotten" behavior. He will do it again and hopefully be caught before

he destroys any more lives.

[xfundy]

5. I'd say his own kids are in immediate danger.

He should be monitored, but his wife claims he told her before their marriage, which I believe is a load of shit.

[shenmue]

16. Yeah

[ScreamingMeemie]

26. Me too, and I believe any "story" she was told was a "boys will be boys, he was soo young" type

thing. It's frightening how these women can't or won't protect their own children.

[StevieM]

61. ITA about his kids. But as for his wife's story....are you sure about that?

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Because I completely believe her. I think in her mind, based on the way she approaches the world, Josh had repented of sin. He confessed, he repented, and everyone said that he never repeated the sin.

To someone like Anna, it is about sin, not a crime. It is about God's law, not the children or laws our society sets up to protect them. If he is right with God....then what is there left to talk about?

I never doubted her for a minute. And I still don't.

[pnwmom]

38. I don't think it's fair to say that the actions of a 14 year old in a warped system make him

irredeemably lost.

An adult with his history, yes, is very likely to reoffend. But they don't have similar data showing that with younger teens. But if you have some, I'd be happy to consider it.

[xfundy]

41. When I was 14, or even earlier, I'd never have thought of incest.

Never. Never ever. Just off the radar. "Playing doctor" (with other kids who were not immediate family) might fly at 5 or 6, but not beyond that. Never. Never.

[pnwmom]

48. This wasn't playing doctor. But this boy was raised in an extremely isolated,

sick family system. Who was there to teach him right and wrong? Even the police officer they brought him to is serving 56 years for charges related to child porn.

I also wouldn't be surprised at all to find out he had been molested himself -- by an adult.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

43. Experts in the field agree with this as well

Very low recidivism rate as compared to adult offenders.

[justiceischeap]

70. It all depends on if he reoffended after the age of 16

If so, then he's considered a pedophile and more likely to be a life-long offender.

According to that online comment that seems to know quite a bit about this situation, something sexual happened when he was 16 when he was campaigning for his then girlfriends father.

http://defamer.gawker.com/the-web-has-known-about-josh-duggar-for-years-when-did-1706258269

[pnwmom]

73. I see nothing in the comments that indicates he molested a child when he was 16.

Yes, he is accused of a sexual sin -- but in their eyes that could even include consensual "sinning" with his betrothed. There is no way to know what those anonymous comments about a sexual sin on the campaign trial are referring to. Maybe he and his fiancee were caught french kissing -- and so her father blamed Josh for his campaign loss. These people are absolutely nuts.

I spent 7 years reading partial-truths mixed with vicious lies in comments about the Amanda Knox case, by self-promoting experts. I don't care who the subject is -- no one should be forming opinions based on unsourced, anonymous comments they read online.

[justiceischeap]

75. I agree but these comments have been online long before

this became a media firestorm and, for the most part, they have been substantiated. My other point is we really don't know how long this went on or if it continues in some way and when it comes to sexual abuse, I'd rather err on the side of caution, wouldn't you?

[pnwmom]

77. I would err on the side of caution, certainly, if I was a person in contact with Josh.

But as a matter of principle, I think the parents in this case are the real criminals here, and Josh is one of the victims. Yes, he did some very wrong things, but he was 14 years old and trapped in a very twisted system.

And did you read about the center where they sent him for rehab? More evil.

http://www.wthr.com/story/818906/dark-secrets

[hobbit709]

85. Where do you think those adults got their start?

All he's learned is that he can get away with it-which is what most pedophiles of all kinds think.

[pnwmom]

91. Why do you say he learned he can get away with it?

The organization he was sent to for "rehab" is being investigated for child abuse.

http://www.wthr.com/story/818906/dark-secrets

[hobbit709]

92. You really believe that he was rehabbed?

I don't. And anyone who has ever worked with kids like that don't.

[pnwmom]

93. No, I think it was likely he was being abused.

They just called it rehab -- it wasn't real treatment.

But it wouldn't have given him the sense that he could "get away with it."

[treestar]

4. He had to quit that job

But I think his family will somehow bail him out.

[xfundy]

6. Without the tee vee show money?

I think they're all blaming him right now. Shunning, even.

[polly7]

9. Yes, that huge house must cost a whole lot to maintain.

They're going to find it very, very hard I imagine.

I feel bad for all the kids still at home - it can't be a very happy place right now.

Josh is either going to have to lay low for a long time, or completely go the other way - Sarah Palinesque - 'FU to the haters', and charm enough right-wing followers until what he did no longer even matters. Ted Nugent managed it.

[jmowreader]

22. Jim-bob is a real estate speculator

He started that before the show went live, so (assuming his homeboy George Dubya didn't completely destroy his wealth in the Big Crash) they SHOULD be okay even without the TLC money.

[polly7]

24. Thanks, I didn't realize that.

I'm glad for the kids they'll be well taken care of.

[jmowreader]

31. They've made enough money off the TV racket, they SHOULD be set for life

[polly7]

34. I'm another who didn't realize just how long they've had that show.

I've just seen, well heard, actually - usually only have the tv on while I do books, two or three episodes. Only for the sake of the kids, I hope they're able to get by - the parents can go to hell for not protecting those girls and having them live in the same house with him for years afterwards.

[yeoman6987]

11. I went and could not believe how many seasons the show was on

They have enough money to live comfortably for a very long time. I predict those two daughters will live with the family for a long time because of no education of the husbands or wives and josh and family will probably move I too. I doubt they are even talking about it any more.

[treestar]

12. I thought they made good money before the tv show

Jim bob was in a business.

[xfundy]

17. There's good money and tee vee celebrity money.

And their name has been forever tainted. I bet they can't even go into town without derisive looks and comments about the child molester son and the dad's attempt to cover it up.

Josh is going to be a scapegoat for whatever ill falls upon that family. I bet they've even got a biblical "reason" to cast him out.

[StevieM]

66. Again....are you sure about that?

I imagine that some of the townsfolk have rallied around them, seeing them as victims of liberal elitists, who are trying to take them down...along with God.

[treestar]

88. This ^^^^^^^^^

You already see people defending them, saying it's no big deal, like playing doctor, and that he was only 15.

[StevieM]

64. It's also possible that the daughters were blamed for tempting poor Josh to sin. (eom)

[libdem4life]

8. How are they going to do that? Even without a house payment Jim Bob has one heck of an overhead.

His work skills, other than RW shill which is Over, are politics and real estate, at least that I've read. Not thinking he'll be welcomed into either of those very public markets. The entire world knows about this family facade and he's The Leader. The higher they fly, the harder they fall. Even Huckabee and his ilk will have to be very careful, if his Facebook comments are any indication.

[treestar]

13. He has a ton of money

to invest.

[libdem4life]

18. How much of a ton? That's still a heavy load for the long haul. Now he has to pay taxes, and I'm

thinking the IRS is going to take a look-see into his tax-free church and that gravy train is over, at best, and to be audited at worst.

[lancer78]

78. 3.6 million net worth

[mercuryblues]

25. yeah well

he can't sell off his daughters as virgins any more, So that has got to hurt the family name.

Yes I am being sarcastically bitter, The idea that this family cult has traded the religious coin for capitol gain is beyond disgusting.

[ScreamingMeemie]

33. He can do speaking engagements with the crazies over on the TLC FB page who are defending

poor Josh and telling the rest of us we're going to hell.

[libdem4life]

35. Did you read Huckabee's feed? It was disastrous. The Right wing fringe just took a big hit.

They are larger than life, literally, and I think it will be some time until they slither back into some realm of normal life. I mean, without the Gay and Transgender hate, (which for most pales with incest) what are they going to speak about, parenting tips? (sarcasm, of course)

[uppityperson]

7. Will he abuse his kids or other children? Will he try and shame those he abused?

So many options.

[xfundy]

10. This type of abuse does tend to repeat.

I hope he won't abuse his own kids, but it seems statistically likely. Will he blame the victims? That seems to be part of an abusive mindset. There was a story recently about a six-yr-old Argentinian boy who was abused, and the judge ruled that the abuser was not guilty because the boy showed "homosexual tendencies." A six year old child.

[pnwmom]

40. One thing that allows me to hope he will not is that he told both his wife and her parents

about his history before they got married.

Many in his position would have kept it secret.

[xfundy]

42. I think that's a lie.

I just do.

[countryjake]

52. How could you possibly know he told them he'd molested his sisters?

As I became a teenage young man I was constantly tempted to have lots of wrong thoughts, and often battled to keep my heart right. One of the greatest things that helped me in my struggles was my parent’s commitment to accountability. They were faithful to talk with each one of their children – if we were willing to share honestly & openly with them – to maintain a clear conscience. I learned quickly that great freedom can be achieved by accountability, and great accountability requires humility & openness. I often had failures in my early teenage years, but found I had a clear conscience only when I was willing to confess my thoughts and temptations quickly to God & my parents. ~ Josh Duggar

https://web.archive.org/web/20150217210352/http://ja20.com/ourstory/

Right there are the words of a Child Molester who was never held accountable for the Sexual Assaults he committed against his own little sisters!

[pnwmom]

55. I don't "know." I'm just going by what his wife said. n/t

[misterhighwasted]

14. He'll become a pastor following in Gothards footsteps.

He's alredy been forgoven in that sick stupid cult of supreme patriarchy.
Jimbob & Michele & Josh will start a "pray the problem away" christian camp for troubled children.
They will continue to exploit prepubescent children for $$$, in the name of the jeebuz.

[xfundy]

20. As insane as it sounds

you may be right.

[misterhighwasted]

32. They will find a way to exist & profit by hiding within that

..fake religion.
That church needs to be investigated & have their tax exemptions stopped.
This is so sick.
INCEST.

[libdem4life]

36. Bingo...the IRS...I'd bet money there is an audit coming up. And definitely any income day forward

will be taxed. Non Profit Church...not any more. The IRS alone could do them in.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

45. People keep talking about them being a church

Yet I've never seen anything that shows this.

Is this actually true, or just an internet rumor?

[xfundy]

50. I think the dad built a church on the property

but I'm no fan of the show, so verify it somewhere else. Mel Gibson built a church on his property, too. Hell, I'll build one if it gets me free from taxation and laws against debauchery. Wooo hooo!

[Tom Ripley]

95. ^^^This^^^

[GoneOffShore]

19. He's going to marry Rick Santorum. But keep it a secret.

[xfundy]

23. When I hear/read things, I tend to make mental images.

You are on the fast track to hell. EWWWW.

[GoneOffShore]

28. I know. Thank you.

I've been reading too much Terry Pratchett recently.

[MurrayDelph]

21. My hope is that he and Bill Cosby will get a realty show together

On MSNBC.


Friday nights sometime after Rachel Maddow.

[onecaliberal]

29. If only. I'm not holding out any hope.

[GoneOffShore]

30. Oooo, can we try and put together titles for the show?

Though nothing I can think of at the moment wouldn't get me banned.

[libdem4life]

39. Yeah, Celebrity Lock Up. LOL

[davidpdx]

46. Put them in a boxing ring with an inmate convicted of murder

Neither would last long.

[akbacchus_BC]

76. This is so not funny!

Why you feel that molesting minors is funny!

Even suggesting a stupid show?

[jberryhill]

83. Those MSNBC prison shows follow Maddow on Friday night

It was a roundabout way of suggesting they be locked up.

[freshwest]

27. NOTHING. He's privileged. Forgettaboutit. n/t

[xfundy]

37. He's damaged goods.

We've seen how cons treat their own who've erred on the side of reality. They bite them apart as with ducks.

My feeling is that Josh will end up with a gun to his head. Sorry, but I just do.

[freshwest]

67. Only if the family turns on him and he has to get a *gasp* real job. n/t

[11 Bravo]

44. FoxNews family values consultant?

[davidpdx]

47. My guess is he will lie low for a number of years

I also predict (and this shouldn't be hard to fathom) that the TV days for the Duggers are over. His parents will have to support him and his family for awhile until he gets some mediocre job. I'd say there is better than a 50% chance his wife will divorce him and take custody of his daughter.

[xfundy]

49. You have to remember we're not talking about normal people here.

The tee vee show is definitely over, even Mama June spoke out against it.

Will his parents support him, or will they cast him out? Hard to say, but I'm betting they'll find some verse to justify throwing him and his brood out of the house. They still have young kids there, and pedophiles aren't really particular about the sex of younger kids.

Will his wife divorce him? She's as uneducated as he is and likely unable to bring any skills to a job, but perhaps her parents can provide her shelter. Hopefully she'll keep Josh away from the kids, or at least under watch when he's there.

The whole thing is spooky and creepy and just plain sick.

[davidpdx]

80. Yeah I realize they aren't normal

That I've got from the little I know about them. It is a shame that his wife and kids may continue to be stuck in that family of hell.

[StevieM]

69. He has a 4th child--a 2nd daughter--on the way. And I think that his wife will stand by him.

That is what a good, virtuous woman is supposed to do, don't you know?

She said that she knew the truth before she married him--and I believe her.

[davidpdx]

81. Yeah

The fact that she is pregnant makes it far less likely she'd try to "escape" the crazy clan. She sure didn't think about it when she was told before she married him. I have to wonder if it would ever cross her mind that this would come out eventually. It is an embarrassment to her and her family as well since they had knowledge of what happened.

[JeffHead]

51. Something that you involves ROT and HELL hopefully nt

[bluestateguy]

53. He was protected by the good ole' boy system in Arkansas

But if he repeats this illegal behavior in other states or to commit federal crimes, that may not happen.

[Terra Alta]

54. He will likely reoffend

and I'm afraid the next victims will be his own daughters. I hope I'm wrong.

[gopiscrap]

56. This is proof once more that all

republicans and specially the really conservative ones are all child molesters!

[xfundy]

59. Huh?

not even close. What are you trying to say?

[JI7]

62. what a stupid thing to say

[gopiscrap]

90. If you're a republican you support this guy and others like him

these fuckers always find a way to get back to making money broadcasting, consulting etc. and it's always repubs who find ways to help these assholes out after they have been caught. So yes, if you're a repub you're a molester because you're aiding and abetting it and excusing it.

[jwirr]

57. Well for sure he is going to have to find a different job. The rw regions will not be hiring him as

their fair haired boy from now on. Probably not mom and dad either.

[craigmatic]

58. nothing will happen liberals are more angry at Cosby than this family and they contradict everything

we believe in.

[Katashi_itto]

60. Meth is a terrible drug

[Solly Mack]

63. Nothing. He'll play the victim and continue to live in denial.

[TexasBushwhacker]

65. He'll change his name to another J name

and work for his dad.

Josefus?

Jeebus?

Johnson?

[polly7]

68. LOL. I like Jeebus. It fits. nt.

[LuvNewcastle]

71. He'll say that he has repented and

that the whole thing was brought up by the radical gays. Then the Dominionists will line up behind him and the rest of the family. I truly expect this or something very similar to happen.

[herding cats]

72. He could become a pastor/preacher.

He's popular still within that specific religious sect. Politics are pretty much a closed door to him now, but he could still become a pastor/preacher within his faith. Maybe he could even manage to get a mega church going in time? There's good money to be made in that I've read. He could then make insane amounts of money while spreading his preferred brand of hate. It seems like a good fit to me.

[akbacchus_BC]

74. Who cares? We have better things to focus on!

The father knew and they seeked counselling from the Church according to the news. Focus, the Duggars are not important!

[xfundy]

96. I care.

These people represent only a small part of the voices and faces of hatred and evil calling itself good in the religion industry, and have declared themselves my enemy and, presumably, yours. If you don't want to hear about something, don't click on it. Pretty easy.

[akbacchus_BC]

79. I hope family services see this and his history

and ensure that he does not molest his own daughters. Gosh, this is sick! Fathers are supposed to protect their children!

[jmowreader]

82. The same thing that happened to Jim Bakker and Charles Colson

He'll pray his little heart out for a year, then go on the circuit of religious television programs and admit The Devil had him in his grasp, but he has re-focused his life on The Lord. This will make him more popular than ever.

Most of us would prefer things be done to him that are both brutal and unspeakable, but we're not in his circle of friends.

[HereSince1628]

87. Looking at comments in these Josh Duggar threads, what other option is there?

If only one avenue of escape is offered that's the avenue that must be 'chosen'.

Not that it's even close to the first time that internet anonymity has seen liberals promoting brutality and the unspeakable. But it does seem to suggest a deep connection to an animus within us that can only be justified via righteousness.

[hobbit709]

84. Nothing. He is forgiven by gawd and therefore he is cleansed of his sins.

Until he gets caught doing it again, hopefully this time by the law.

[PeaceNikki]

86. A hugely successful gofund me campaign? Cuz it's OK if you're Republican.

[vankuria]

89. I don't believe anything will happen

The circles he travels in which are limited to fringe conservative Christian's with the same world view as himself will continue to rally around him and defend his deviant behavior as just a simple "mistake". Someone in that crazy church of his will probably give him a job, but lets hope it's not with kids. In the real world he will always be a pariah, but he will probably never venture into that big bad world because he is a coward. Lets hope he's smart enough to keep that bigoted, big mouth of his shut.

I do believe at some point his deviant behavior may manifest itself again and hopefully he will face consequences. I am very fearful for his children and doubtful CPS is even keeping an eye on this.

[Tom Ripley]

94. He'll clean up on the fundy redemption tour circuit