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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon May 25, 2015, 11:55 AM May 2015

4th biggest Cable Company to Buy 2nd biggest cable company

Charter Communications Inc. is near an agreement to buy Time Warner Cable Inc. for about $55.1 billion in cash and stock, according to people familiar with the matter.

Charter will pay about $195 a share, with $100 in cash and the rest in its own stock, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the talks are confidential. The deal could be announced as soon as tomorrow, they said. Bright House Networks, a smaller cable company that Charter is trying to buy, will also be merged into the combined entity, they said.

Charter, the fourth-biggest U.S. cable company, is making its second move on No. 2 Time Warner Cable after its early 2014 bid was rejected and Comcast Corp. swooped in with a competing offer. Charter, whose largest shareholder is billionaire John Malone, got another shot when the Comcast deal fell apart in April because of regulatory scrutiny.

Spokespeople for Charter and Time Warner Cable declined to comment.

The price is 14 percent above Time Warner Cable’s closing price on May 22. Shareholders will have the option to accept as much as $115 a share in cash and less Charter stock, the people said. The deal value of $55.1 billion is for Time Warner’s equity. Charter also will assume debt in the transaction.

more
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-25/charter-said-to-near-deal-for-time-warner-cable-at-195-a-share

Antitrust, anyone?

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4th biggest Cable Company to Buy 2nd biggest cable company (Original Post) n2doc May 2015 OP
Oh boy shenmue May 2015 #1
Huh, small buying out the big.. Lancero May 2015 #2
This should NOT be allowed to happen..... a kennedy May 2015 #3
I agree sabbat hunter May 2015 #4
Comcast is the only cable or satellite company with significant vertical integration onenote May 2015 #16
Now cable rates go up to pay for this merger. Exilednight May 2015 #5
All communications should be nationalized. onehandle May 2015 #6
I disagree that it should be nationalized sabbat hunter May 2015 #7
Cox is getting compitition in the Omaha area Omaha Steve May 2015 #9
Must be nice... malokvale77 May 2015 #18
Aw jeez, not this shit again... Tom_Foolery May 2015 #8
I'm curious... malokvale77 May 2015 #19
The buyout... Tom_Foolery May 2015 #20
Thank you malokvale77 May 2015 #21
You're welcome. n/t Tom_Foolery May 2015 #22
I've got Charter... Kablooie May 2015 #10
I use charter internet. They've provided excellent service so far. Had a problem a few days ago and Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #12
I admit to be prejudiced FOR Charter... Archae May 2015 #11
FlatBaroque's Number 1 Rule FlatBaroque May 2015 #13
Thanks, Bill. bvar22 May 2015 #14
can you point to anything in the 1996 Act that is at all relevant to this deal? onenote May 2015 #15
....except for the part that allowed one owner to basically own EVERY SINGLE MEDIA OUTLET... bvar22 May 2015 #23
Wrong. But thanks for playing. onenote May 2015 #24
I am always amused by people who argue AGAINST their own cut & paste jobs. bvar22 May 2015 #26
If Charter/TWC/Bright House owned radio stations or TV stations, your post might make sense. onenote May 2015 #28
Actually, it would be a merger of number 4 and number 8 onenote May 2015 #17
What could go wrong? KamaAina May 2015 #25
E pluribus unum The2ndWheel May 2015 #27

sabbat hunter

(6,829 posts)
4. I agree
Mon May 25, 2015, 12:27 PM
May 2015

and in fact if anything cable companies should be broken up in to content providers and content creators. Right now companies like Comcast are both. TWC split itself a couple years ago in to two different parts. Additionally, they should be forced to allow other companies to provide service over their wires, like how the electric/gas industry has been forced to do.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
16. Comcast is the only cable or satellite company with significant vertical integration
Mon May 25, 2015, 06:10 PM
May 2015

Not much left to break up in the multichannel universe.

sabbat hunter

(6,829 posts)
7. I disagree that it should be nationalized
Mon May 25, 2015, 12:46 PM
May 2015

good honest competition is the way to go. if you get other companies in areas where right now a company holds a monopoly, forcing competition, it will force the companies to give better service at lower prices. That will benefit all more than nationalizing it.

Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
9. Cox is getting compitition in the Omaha area
Mon May 25, 2015, 01:39 PM
May 2015

Cox doubled the internet speed with no price increase.

Unionized Century Link is getting market share with fiber optic. They aren't in our area yet.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
18. Must be nice...
Mon May 25, 2015, 07:41 PM
May 2015

AT&T in Dallas (nothing else available) went from $14 something to $48 something in the last 2 years for a broadband service that has not improved one bit.

They are trying to force me into their Uverse service which I am not at all interested in.

Uverse would cut my copper phone line for digital internet phone. I can not do that. I have two disabled people here who need access to a phone when the power fails.

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
10. I've got Charter...
Mon May 25, 2015, 01:44 PM
May 2015

and compared with what I hear about the other companies I think I lucked out.

It's not perfect, sometimes the picture breaks up and it seems to go down every other month, but the internet is fast and the prices are a little better than some others I've heard of.

They also have an automated help system that has actually helped me solve problems without talking to a real person.
And when I needed a real person they would stay on the line for a long time until we figured out a solution.

We did find that Slingbox was stopping every few minutes until we started using a VPN. Now Slingbox runs fine.

(Slingbox allows my wife to watch Japanese TV from her sister's cable TV account in Tokyo. A VPN encrypts the data so Charter can't tell that the signal is coming from a Slingbox)

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
12. I use charter internet. They've provided excellent service so far. Had a problem a few days ago and
Mon May 25, 2015, 02:26 PM
May 2015

got a human on the phone very quickly. They couldn't solve it, so a tech came out the next day and replaced a faulty cable.

Edit: Internet much faster than my old ATT&T crappy DSL with my last test showing 65Mbps.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
11. I admit to be prejudiced FOR Charter...
Mon May 25, 2015, 01:45 PM
May 2015

Since I have it and have had zero complaints, in fact they treat me really good!

On-time and helpful service, good prices and no problems.

Unlike Comcast.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
15. can you point to anything in the 1996 Act that is at all relevant to this deal?
Mon May 25, 2015, 06:04 PM
May 2015

I'll answer for you.

No.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. ....except for the part that allowed one owner to basically own EVERY SINGLE MEDIA OUTLET...
Tue May 26, 2015, 03:45 PM
May 2015

..within the Broadcast or distribution area.
Without that....no Clear Channel or other Media Monopolies to drown out everybody else with canned Right Wing Propaganda.

Thanks, Bill.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
24. Wrong. But thanks for playing.
Tue May 26, 2015, 04:22 PM
May 2015

Before the 1996 Act, there was one statutory provision that limits "horizontal" ownership concentration of cable television systems: Section 613(f) of the Communications Act (added to the Act in by the Cable Consumer Protection and Competition Act of 1992). That provision directed the FCC to adopt rules establishing limits on the number of cable subscirbers that can be served by one company (or by multiple companies in which there is a common, attributable ownership interest).

The FCC adopted a 30 percent ownership cap in 1993. As originally adopted, it only took into account cable television subscribers. However, with the growth of DBS, the FCC revised its methodology in 1999 to take into account all "multichannel video programming distributors". That decision was not required by and was otherwise completely unrelated to any provision in the 1996 Act (which impacted cable television ownership only by eliminating the prohibition on telephone companies owning cable systems, which is why Verizon and ATT are able to compete with incumbent cable operators today).

The 1999 decision was struck down by the courts in 2001 on the grounds the FCC had not adequately supported its choice of a 30 percent cap. So the FCC went back to work and took another stab at implementing an ownership cap, which led to its adoption of a 30 percent cap in 2008. The courts weren't terribly amused by the FCC's magical reasoning that led it to come up with the exact same cap that the courts had previously rejected, and, to absolutely no one's surprise, the "new" 30 percent cap was struck down in 2009. The FCC at this point has not made a third attempt to set a limit. If it does, the court decisions indicate it would have to be greater than 30 percent based on the evidence.

Meanwhile, Comcast, as the largest cable company, sits at 22 million subscribers, which is well below the 30 percent cap that the FCC twice tried to impose. Even if it had purchased Time Warner Cable, it would have ended up at 30 million subscribers -- still below the 30 percent cap. And the deal between Charter (4.1 million subs), Time Warner Cable (11 million) and Bright House (2 million), the combined entity will have around 17 million subscribers, less than Comcast and, obviously, well below the 30 percent cap.

So, to review, even if the cap on horizontal ownership adopted before the 1996 Act was still in place (and, as mentioned, the 1996 Act didn't repeal that provision), the proposed deal would be well within the legal limits. As for what the 1996 Act did with respect to cable television ownership -- the answer is not much. As noted, it allowed telephone companies to get into the business of providing video, which has created more competition. It got rid of the the prohibition on a broadcast television network owning cable systems, which is why Comcast can own NBC (and which I believe was a bad move). And it set the stage for the courts, a few years later, to throw out the prohibition on a cable system owning a broadcast station in the cable system's service area. But none of those changes are in any way relevant to the proposed Charter/Time Warner Cable/Bright House merger.

Finally, the 1996 Act did make a number of changes that increased the number of radio stations that one entity could own locally or nationally. It also set the stage for increases in the number of tv stations that could be owned by one entity nationally, and put the newspaper-TV cross ownership ban at risk. Those were all bad moves, but again, they have nothing to do with cable television ownership or the proposed deal.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
26. I am always amused by people who argue AGAINST their own cut & paste jobs.
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:15 PM
May 2015

Last edited Wed May 27, 2015, 03:06 PM - Edit history (4)

the 1996 Act did make a number of changes that increased the number of radio stations that one entity could own locally or nationally. It also set the stage for increases in the number of tv stations that could be owned by one entity nationally, and put the newspaper-TV cross ownership ban at risk.


Case Closed.

What part of your clip do you not understand?
Maybe I can help you.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
28. If Charter/TWC/Bright House owned radio stations or TV stations, your post might make sense.
Tue May 26, 2015, 06:22 PM
May 2015

But as it stands, it just indicates that you don't know the difference between a cable television system, a radio station, or a television station.


Heck, even my 99 year old dad knew the difference.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
17. Actually, it would be a merger of number 4 and number 8
Mon May 25, 2015, 06:19 PM
May 2015

Top multichannel video programming distributors (cable and satellite):

1. Comcast 22 million
2. DirecTV 20 million (US)
3. Dish Network 14 million
4. Time Warner Cable 11 million
5. ATT U-Verse 6 million
6. Verizon FiOS 5.5 million
7. Cox 4.3 million
8 Charter 4.29 million

The FCC and DOJ are expected to approve a pending merger of ATT U-Verse and DirecTV shortly. That combine company will be number 1. If Charter gains control of both TWC and Bright House (2 million) it will have around 17 million customers, putting at number three behind ATT/DirecTV and Comcast and ahead of Dish.

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