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LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
Mon May 25, 2015, 03:31 PM May 2015

ISIS v.s. 3D Printing

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/isis-vs-3d-printing?trk_source=homepage-lede



Men descend on the venerated space, laying waste to anything they can topple. Armed with sledgehammers, power drills, and cellphone cameras, they leave dust and stones in their wake, mere suggestions of the priceless artifacts proudly displayed only hours before. What little fragments are left of the ancient Assyrian stone sculptures are likely collected and sold by looters shortly after the group’s departure.

These are members of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in one of their videos, storming the Nineveh Museum in Mosul, Iraq, and ruining its collections. In February, 2015, they came to destroy what they called "false idols" and erase the histories outside of a reductive narrative that they cling to for the validation of their own atrocities.

Time and again, conflict has been bad news for historical artifacts and sculptures. There was the infamous burning of the Library of Alexandria, the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyan in Afghanistan by the Taliban, and the Nazi's battle to burn as much “degenerate art” as they could find. Swept up in a violent fervor, mobs and soldiers have been quick to destroy what took societies centuries to create; what museums and collectors spent decades collecting, preserving, and documenting for the public.

The digital era looks different: files can be cheaply hosted in data centers spread across several states or continents to ensure permanence. Morehshin Allahyari, an Iranian born artist, educator, and activist, wants to apply that duplicability to the artifacts that ISIS has destroyed.


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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. Fuck.
Mon May 25, 2015, 03:45 PM
May 2015

Killers of not only people, but ideas and history.

ISIS is the active embodiment of what the Tea Party wants in America.

GOPNRAteahadists would LOVE to kill liberals, destroy museums, and erase progressiveness from our children's history books.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
4. What needs to happen is the value of those artifacts need to be brought to 0, no value
Mon May 25, 2015, 04:00 PM
May 2015

since they can be easily duplicated. Thus robbing them from gain. If the artifacts are true instruments of knowledge the the 3D printed ones are also. For too long museums have hoarded artifacts for the monetary gain not for knowledge.

From the article:
Time and again, conflict has been bad news for historical artifacts and sculptures. There was the infamous burning of the Library of Alexandria, the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyan in Afghanistan by the Taliban, and the Nazi's battle to burn as much “degenerate art” as they could find. Swept up in a violent fervor, mobs and soldiers have been quick to destroy what took societies centuries to create; what museums and collectors spent decades collecting, preserving, and documenting for the public.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
5. then it is not an artifact
Mon May 25, 2015, 04:07 PM
May 2015

A 3d printed sculpture is not the same as one carved out of stone 2000 years ago by hand.

An original printing or painting is not the same as a reproduction.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
9. Beat me to it.
Mon May 25, 2015, 05:02 PM
May 2015

I may have a Monet Waterlilies printed on my shower curtain, but that doesn't make the curtain a replacement for the original.

Especially true for ancient artifacts, the sole surviving voice of the distant past. Making a 3-D copy won't protect them, because as moronic as these goons are, they are smart enough to understand that the copies will never carry the history of the originals.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. Inapt use of term "3D Printing". 3D digital scanning and preservation. Later, digital fabrication.
Mon May 25, 2015, 04:39 PM
May 2015

3D printers are small rather crappy devices that are limited in what they do, squirting out molten plastic following digital instructions.

Before that there was stereo lithography, considerably more detailed.

But in general what we need to do with sculptures and works of genius is to scan them and create 3D digital files from which digital fabrication technologies can be used to recreate their forms.

Sorry, just hate to see "3D printing" so overused as it has been in the past year or two.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
7. "limited in what they do, squirting out molten plastic"?
Mon May 25, 2015, 04:51 PM
May 2015

Sorry, but that's understating it.
Sandstone, gold, nickel, silver, nylon, wax, ceramic, acrylic, steel, brass, and bronze are all possible.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
10. 3D printing is not the same as gold circuit deposition, CNC milling or direct laser metal sintering.
Mon May 25, 2015, 05:11 PM
May 2015

ASTM says:


What is 3D printing?

3D printing or additive manufacturing is a process of making three dimensional solid objects from a digital file. The creation of a 3D printed object is achieved using additive processes. In an additive process an object is created by laying down successive layers of material until the entire object is created. Each of these layers can be seen as a thinly sliced horizontal cross-section of the eventual object.

To be more precise: since 2010, the American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM) group “ASTM F42 – Additive Manufacturing”, developed a set of standards that classify the Additive Manufacturing processes into 7 categories according to Standard Terminology for Additive Manufacturing Technologies. These seven processes are:

Vat Photopolymerisation
Material Jetting
Binder Jetting
Material Extrusion
Powder Bed Fusion
Sheet Lamination
Directed Energy Deposition

greyl

(22,990 posts)
14. Where's that masturbation icon...
Tue May 26, 2015, 03:58 AM
May 2015

You said 3D printers are "limited in what they do, squirting out molten plastic", and that was a way-off-target description of the technology.

Changing the subject won't work.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
15. Sorry if I offended you with oversimplification.
Tue May 26, 2015, 09:46 AM
May 2015

I work in a world where they're common, FabLab at Stanford and the folks at Maker. More and more you find them on high school and college campuses and the prices are plummeting.

My last office has a Stratasis Dimension 1200, and a little MakerBot.

And they squirt out molten plastic. It's what they do. The plastic feedstock looks like weedeater string.

We made tons of these things as cool gifts for special clients:



 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
8. + 1000 !!!
Mon May 25, 2015, 05:00 PM
May 2015

That's what I meant by " Of all the applications " because there are some real ass-head uses, Oreos, dildos, guns and so on .

petronius

(26,602 posts)
13. 'Cyber-archaeology' salvages lost Iraqi art
Mon May 25, 2015, 06:11 PM
May 2015
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Photogrammetry is a popular technique in modern cultural heritage projects. It uses software to turn multiple 2D photographs of a single object into 3D images.

"It's an incredibly useful technology that can create 3D models just using photos from a normal digital camera," explained Mr Vincent.

He and his colleague realised that if they could find enough photos of the destroyed artworks, they could salvage them in cyberspace.

So they set up Project Mosul. People who have visited now-destroyed sites - beginning with the Mosul Museum - can submit their photographs. Then volunteers log on to help sort the images, and those with the know-how get stuck into the job of rebuilding the artefacts.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32742622

I saw this a few days ago (it's also mentioned in the OP article) and thought it was cool...
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