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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Or ignore the victory? As they did Kobani and Tikrit being re-taken and held, 25% of ISIS territory has been re-taken...crickets.
No terrorist group has ever been able to play the American media like a fiddle.....first one that tried had no problem using the media to advance their propaganda....the American media is a fiddle.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)edhopper
(33,575 posts)is on our hands.
Truly tragic for the people of Iraq.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Which of course, calls into question the entire US strategy of relying on them. BTW, most people are unaware that the US decided not to focus on Ramadi when it was on the brink. Only until it fell and the administration caught a lot of shit for that did we decide it was actually important, and our tactic is now to blame the Iraqis. How much air support did they get? How much leadership did we provide on the ground?
eissa
(4,238 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)decided it was more important to go after ISIS's oil revenues and their accountant. Dempsey and Carter announced that if Ramadi fell, it was NO BIG DEAL back in April. Now it's a big deal?
eissa
(4,238 posts)They're selective about the regions they fight in, and who/what they protect. Ask minorities like Assyrians and Yazidis about the bravery of the Iraqi Army. They watched in horror as they dropped everything and fled as ISIS made their way into their towns and villages (yes, VILLAGES -- no where near the size of Ramadi, areas that should have been easy to protect) leaving them at the mercy of those savages.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)they have entire brigades that exist only on paper, and corrupt/poor leadership. This was known already. But Ramadi was not Mosul. And Dempsey's/Ass Carter's strategy to go after accountants instead of holding LARGE CITIES NEAR BAGHDAD is a disaster. Blaming the Iraqi soldiers for cowardice when we PUBLICLY wrote off Ramadi in the weeks before it fell is ridiculous. We went full-bore with airstrikes and cooperation to help the Kurds retain Kobane last September, and that was a nothing little town--we did it to deny ISIS a victory. But in March the Pentagon denied that Ramadi would fall, then it fell in slow motion, and then it was over, with nothing more from us than a few extra airstrikes. Either we're in this war, or we're out. We need to make a decision. Condemning leaderless, nearly-nationless foot soldiers as cowards (in a country that WE wrecked) is going to get us nowhere. I don't want American troops on the ground in large numbers, only to have the Iraqis flee, but there has to be a better way. Getting serious about holding territory would be a good start.