Nude photos of Hillary, Bush, Diane Sawyer?

[packman]

Not making this up -

Between the 1940s and the 1970s, several ivy league colleges had a very strange requirement for all their incoming freshmen students. Harvard, Yale, Wellesley College, Vassar as well as Brown University, were among the elite American colleges that asked all the young men and women enrolled in their first year, to pose nude. Thousands and thousands of pictures were taken of students, including such notable names such as George Bush, Diane Sawyer, Meryl Streep and Hillary Rodham Clinton.


"Strong evidence in Sheldon’s (Psychologist Professor) classified written material has shown that the researcher was using Ivy League freshmen students to study the correlation between a person’s body shape and their intelligence. The Nazis compiled similar archives analysing photos of body types to support their theories on race and social hierarchy."

This was stopped in the 1950's - article at site - WARNING: Contains one nude photo representative of those thousands taken:

http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/11/12/that-time-harvard-and-yale-took-naked-photos-of-all-their-freshmen-students/

[merrily]

1. SICK!

[MineralMan]

2. Apparently, all of those photos were destroyed.

It was a stupid project, of course, but it's interesting that all those college students allowed the photos to be taken. That says something about the submissive nature of 18-20 year olds during that period.

They didn't do anything like that when I first attended a university in 1963. If they had, I probably would have stood there naked for it. I never had much concern about such things.

[elleng]

4. Never heard of it,

but attended state school (in Ohio.) Having a party soon w high school classmates, so will ask them!!!

[MineralMan]

5. There have been numerous stories about this project

in past years. It's an interesting glimpse into that period, I think.

[elleng]

7. Lots of conformity, that's for sure.

Counted me OUT, 'non-conformist' here. Lucky I wasn't asked.

[libdem4life]

3. It's called "hazing" and how they keep the inductee faithful. Not far from the Secret Societies...

in Northern California we had an annual "festival" where the elite went out into the Redwood forest, naked, and worshipped the Huge Owl King. It was disgusting...and very real. My friend's son was hired to cook/feed them. The list of attendees was politically astounding. It was in the Bohemian Grove...in Rio Nido, CA. I used to live nearby. It was a not-so-well kept secret. That's how they keep each other "honest" and controlled.

Totally disgusting. I imagine it still goes on today.

[IphengeniaBlumgarten]

8. No, not hazing

I attended a school that was still doing this in 1957. They were referred to as "posture pictures" and I was advised afterwards that I had a slight curvature of the spine and perhaps should seek treatment. Never did, only caused minor problems even this many years later. These pictures were part of the health/phys ed requirements. I also had to demonstrate some minimal competence in swimming or else take a course. Pictures were certainly not hazing, just another hurdle for entering students. I dimly recall that one year the male students managed to steal the posture pictures and this may have been one factor in discontinuing the procedure.

[libdem4life]

12. Right. What school requires nude photos? Give me a break. They have X-rays for that sort of thing

All they had to do was put cameras in the shower room....oh, yeah...that's already been done.

[MineralMan]

9. This has nothing to do with the Bohemian Grove stuff.

It was a research project being carried on at a few universities. All freshman students were photographed at those schools. It wasn't an initiation into some "secret society" or any such thing. Go read the article at the link. There are other resources on this project on the internet.

The Bohemian Grove thing was something completely different. There's stuff on that on the web, too.

[libdem4life]

11. Do tell. IDC for whatever reason...I'm sick of apologists. I'm so "relieved" that it's just

a "research group" that took nude photos. Gag. I don't need to read TheArticle. And don't tell me about the Boho Group...it's all the same pile of worms. For shame.

[MineralMan]

14. The two things are not connected.

However, if you're not interested in finding out about this, that's fine with me.

However, for others, here's a link to the Wikipedia article on Bohemian Grove, which still exists and still has gatherings each year:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

And here's the wikipedia article on the Ivy League Posture Photos project:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

Knowledge is good. Learning about things is good. Neither is mandatory, though.

[libdem4life]

17. Neither are any of the other "Nude scandals" Thanks for the Lesson in Learning. Sorry, all

run by perps of some kind...official, or unofficial. People taking photos of nude people just aren't OK...no matter the "cover" they use and no matter what the age. Did they make sure you were over 18? There's a clue.

[MineralMan]

21. I have no idea. No nude photos of students were taken at the University

I attended. That study was done at just a few schools. You'd learn all of that at the link I provided.

Nudity is not much of an issue for me. I don't really care about it at all. If people around me are unclothed, like at a nude beach or in a communal hot tub or hot springs, you'll find me unclothed, as well. We're all naked under our clothing and there's nothing wrong with nudity.

The really interesting thing to me about those nude photos in that study is that people just complied with it. There was no scandal at the time. That came later. Between the 40s and 60s, most kids were used to communal showers at school in P.E. classes. I know that I was, and didn't think a thing of it. So, had I attended one of the Ivy League schools where that study was underway, I'm sure I would have stripped down and stood there for the photo without a second thought.

I also remember standing in a long line of other 19 year olds, stark naked, for my induction physical when I enlisted in the USAF. The doctor went down the line, checking for hernias and visually checking for obvious problems. We stood there for at least 45 minutes, all lined up, during this process. I don't remember thinking it was remarkable in any way.

Naked people are people in their natural state, really. Nudity is really meaningless to me, and to a lot of other people I know.

[upaloopa]

27. I find it funny that we are the same age and

have similar experiences. I posted on facebook over the weekend that my wife and I met 32 years ago on memorial weekend. What I didn't post was that we met at Glen Eden were her whole family were members.
I can't get too upset with nudity either
Just that we don't look as good as we use to.

[MineralMan]

29. I never was at any naturist resort.

There was a nude beach near my University, though, and I went there fairly frequently. At the time, it was unofficial, but later got official status. That was later, though, after I returned to school when my enlistment was done. Late 1960s. It seemed like nudity was pretty common at that period, and I often encountered naked people at different places. If that was the norm where I found myself, it was no big deal for me to join in.

As for looking like I did in my 20s, well, gravity and aging has certainly taken its toll. I don't stress about it. I'm 69, after all. It's to be expected. Still, now that I think about it, it has been a long time since I've been in a place where everyone was unclothed. Maybe people don't do that any more. I don't know.

[Buzz Clik]

6. Such a contrast to my undergraduate institution.

Every time I showed up for my class picture, the photographer kept saying, "No, we don't need you to take off your clothes. Please put your clothes back on."

I was clearly at the wrong school.

[MineralMan]

10. At the university I attended in the 60s, nudity was voluntary and generally

conducted with only two people in attendance, and without photography. For me, it was also rather a rare thing, unfortunately.

[libdem4life]

15. So inguiring minds want to know...did you or didn't you? I attended university in the 60s and

no one asked me to take my clothes off. Maybe we didn't have perps at my colleges.

[MineralMan]

16. Did I what?

That study was not going on at my university. I was referring to private nudity with only the participants present. I did do that, whenever I could, of course, but that was pretty rare. I was sort of shy and didn't date much as a freshman.

[libdem4life]

20. Cute. Not. I'm not inquiring about your sex life. This is about mandatory nude photos for really

perp-like organizations? people? Induction Ceremonies, et al.

The OP says it all...Justifying it is beyond the pale.

Peace Out.

[MineralMan]

23. I am peaced out. I don't care about nudity.

The human body is unremarkable to me. I have one, myself. Group nudity is also of no particular concern to me. When I grew up, I was naked in a group every school day from the seventh through twelfth grade after every P.E. class. In the military, I lived in barracks, where the showers were in an open room. So nudity around others was commonplace.

Mixed sex nudity was less common, of course, but I've participated in such activities many, many times in my life. Nobody involved cared one whit that either they or others were naked. That is, after all, our natural state.

[libdem4life]

13. LOL ^^^^This^^^^

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. I did not need to know this./NT

[Dwayne Hicks]

19. Very wierd indeed

But my only criticism is your "warning". Why warn people? The naked human body is natural and is nothing to shy away from.

[packman]

22. Yah, well - so saith you

others might be shocked/saddened/disgusted/repulsed/confused/heart-broken/dismayed/ill at some things that are "natural". Example, I love cats but ---


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[MineralMan]

24. Yoda Kitteh!

[JEB]

25. That picture needs a warning.

[Liberal In Texas]

26. Somehow when I was a freshman in 1967 nothing like that happened at my university.

Thank goodness.

What a weird story.

[ruffburr]

28. OMG I'll pass if u don't mind