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Ma & Pa Duggar to exploit now-adult children's youthful incest ? (Original Post) elehhhhna May 2015 OP
Someone, who I love dearly, was sexually abused by an older brother... Luminous Animal May 2015 #1
What kills me... ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #3
It's not like those Duggar girls have any choice, either. Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #5
Exactly. Luminous Animal May 2015 #6
Nope. I am really hoping that one (or all) of them takes this outpouring ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #8
Likely, they have forgiven him within the confines of their biblical role. Luminous Animal May 2015 #9
Doubt even that happened. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #18
i don't. I've witnessed similar where the victim is coerced, using the bible as a prop, Luminous Animal May 2015 #19
I doubt they even addressed it with the girls. I think it was all focused on "Precious Joshie" ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #20
I used to counsel women who were in similar fundie situations as a youth and had escaped. Luminous Animal May 2015 #22
Again, I really doubt it from all the reading I've done on the Quiverfull group this week. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #23
These are some truly messed up people etherealtruth May 2015 #2
TLC should get the "Flush Rush" treatment Skidmore May 2015 #4
The movement started last week. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #7
Do you have a link? I don't have a TV and I don't even know what TLC is. Luminous Animal May 2015 #10
The Learning Channel Systematic Chaos May 2015 #13
AKA, Touching Little Children. Thor_MN May 2015 #16
Oh, no you DIDN'T!! Systematic Chaos May 2015 #21
There's a post of the sponsors on this facebook page ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #17
The girls will have to deal with what happened onecaliberal May 2015 #11
i noticed there aren't really any pictures of Josh Duggars next to his sisters JI7 May 2015 #12
This is a pandering channel, sadly, now. The only thing that will change anything is the commercial libdem4life May 2015 #14
that clip of Jana Duggar crying and talking about forgiveness JI7 May 2015 #15

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
1. Someone, who I love dearly, was sexually abused by an older brother...
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:09 PM
May 2015

and my friend's siblings, as well. All of their pain is, for the most part, subjugated, except for those times when it is not. And then, when it is released, the pain they express is almost too much to bear.

I keep thinking about his victims and how this is dragged out and how awful their parent's response is and what they must be going through.

I was raised to use superlatives like "love" and "hate" judiciously.

I hate these people.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
3. What kills me...
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:10 PM
May 2015

Is when supporters of this twisted, criminal family say,"His victims have forgiven him..." They have? Why? Because the people who covered it up told us so?

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
5. It's not like those Duggar girls have any choice, either.
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:12 PM
May 2015

You can be damn sure they have no leeway when it comes to 'forgiving' their brother.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
8. Nope. I am really hoping that one (or all) of them takes this outpouring
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:13 PM
May 2015

of support for victims of child molestation and runs far freaking away from this.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
9. Likely, they have forgiven him within the confines of their biblical role.
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:17 PM
May 2015

Also, likely, that overt forgiveness does not stop the pain or the nightmares.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
19. i don't. I've witnessed similar where the victim is coerced, using the bible as a prop,
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:40 PM
May 2015

to forgive the unforgettable. The pressure on the girls while Josh was sent away must have been unrelenting in order for them to accept him back into the fold.

I've little doubt that part of his therapy was to apologize on the return home. And, I've little doubt that his victims were regularly and repeatedly coached to accept his apology. With out a doubt, they were told that Josh's actions were influenced by the devil and that god would make him whole and clean. And if god could make him whole and clean, then so should they.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
20. I doubt they even addressed it with the girls. I think it was all focused on "Precious Joshie"
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:55 PM
May 2015

(his mother's words) and the victims weren't even thought about. Josh would have had to do something they actually thought was wrong for that to happen. This was all on the girls tempting him in my opinion.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
22. I used to counsel women who were in similar fundie situations as a youth and had escaped.
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:07 PM
May 2015

There would have been regular prayer sessions to pray for Josh's soul. There would have been, during those prayer sessions, exhortations to drive the devil out of Josh. There would have been exhortations to forgive him when he came home.

And yes. There would have been accusations that the girls tempted him. And, ultimately, they would have agreed and forgiven him.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
23. Again, I really doubt it from all the reading I've done on the Quiverfull group this week.
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:10 PM
May 2015

There was no forgiveness, freely given or forced, in my opinion. The only "forgiveness" they need is from "God." These girls, in this cult, are worthless. It shows in this instance and it shows each time that program is aired.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
7. The movement started last week.
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:12 PM
May 2015

Big names like Payless and Choice Hotels have backed up. A constant negative presence hangs out on the TLC facebook page in order to make them realize this is not going to fade away.

Systematic Chaos

(8,601 posts)
21. Oh, no you DIDN'T!!
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:05 PM
May 2015

Because of the subject matter, I can't in good conscience laugh at this. But damned if I don't want to.

*sigh*

JI7

(89,249 posts)
12. i noticed there aren't really any pictures of Josh Duggars next to his sisters
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:25 PM
May 2015

but there are pictures of other brother/sister siblings standing close to each other.

but i couldn't find any of Josh. even in the family pics he is never next to the sisters.

the side hug with family members always seemed weird but i wonder if it came about because of what happened.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
14. This is a pandering channel, sadly, now. The only thing that will change anything is the commercial
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:25 PM
May 2015

sponsors backing out. As to this family...all they know is preening before cameras during the day and who knows what all when the cameras are off. It creates an insidious kind of social schizophrenia.

The parents are 100% responsible. EOS.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
15. that clip of Jana Duggar crying and talking about forgiveness
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:29 PM
May 2015

we know what it's about now and has nothing to do with the made up story about her sister taking something from her.

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