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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:07 PM May 2015

Photo Raises Doubts About Police Shooting of Jermaine McBean

After Florida police shot Jermaine McBean to death as he walked home with an unloaded air rifle, they said there was no reason to believe he did not hear their orders to drop the weapon and that he pointed it at them.

But a newly emerged photo that shows headphones in McBean's ears immediately after the 2013 shooting raises questions about the police version of events, including why the white earbuds were later found stuffed in the dead computer expert's pocket.

And another aspect of the police account is also being contradicted -- by a man who called 911 in alarm when he saw McBean walking around with the air rifle but who also says McBean never pointed it at police or anyone else.

Michael Russell McCarthy, 58, told NBC News that McBean had the Winchester Model 1000 Air Rifle balanced on his shoulders behind his neck, with his hand over both ends, and was turning around to face police when one officer began shooting.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/photo-raises-doubts-about-police-shooting-jermaine-mcbean-n366386

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Photo Raises Doubts About Police Shooting of Jermaine McBean (Original Post) IDemo May 2015 OP
what about his 2nd Amendment rights? ablamj May 2015 #1
Only applies if one is white. Scuba May 2015 #9
Just makes me sick. "Training" will not remedy this barbarity. Make them carry professional libdem4life May 2015 #2
That is an interesting idea. Egnever May 2015 #4
Let's make it legal. truebluegreen May 2015 #5
Like getting car insurance, if you have a bad record, you pay more. It's actuarially determined. I libdem4life May 2015 #6
he'd be fine if it had been a AK. pansypoo53219 May 2015 #3
in other news, water is wet. niyad May 2015 #7
+1. Correct on both counts. GoneFishin May 2015 #8
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. Just makes me sick. "Training" will not remedy this barbarity. Make them carry professional
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:19 PM
May 2015

insurance and then the taxpayers don't have to pay twice...once for the salary of the LEO and again for their crime that the municipality has to pay. That's what's giving them this bravado...no accountability.

E & O Insurance on their dime like all other professionals...that's the answer...gets them in the pocketbook. Three strikes and the cop is "going naked", i.e. not covered by insurance. Let the cities and counties off the hook. They'll self-correct or self-destruct.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
4. That is an interesting idea.
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:43 PM
May 2015

If you had a pool for the officers to join and they were subject to higher rates based on incidents the problem officers could be pushed out by the cost of insuring them.

Not sure if that would be legal...

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
5. Let's make it legal.
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:53 PM
May 2015

I like the three-strikes idea: no insurance (pre-existing condition!) after the third offense; officer gets to pay out of his own pocket after that. 99% will get into another line of work.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
6. Like getting car insurance, if you have a bad record, you pay more. It's actuarially determined. I
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:54 PM
May 2015

admit that might be a challenge, but not impossible. And the lawsuits now cameras and cellphones are common, are going to break the municipalities. They have to carry insurance, too, and I'm not sure how that all works, but you know that in the end, the taxpayer is going to pay both bills.

Simply require Professional Insurance as part of the job of being a cop. As a Realtor, for instance, if you leave out a disclaimer, or fail to disclose something pertinent, your insurance premiums go up. It's very effective to be very careful and know your business.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_liability_insurance

"Professional liability insurance (PLI), also called professional indemnity insurance (PII) but more commonly known as errors & omissions (E&O) in the US, is a form of liability insurance that helps protect professional advice- and service-providing individuals and companies from bearing the full cost of defending against a negligence claim made by a client, and damages awarded in such a civil lawsuit...

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Professional liability insurance may take on different forms and names depending on the profession. For example, in reference to medical professions it is called malpractice insurance, while errors and omissions (E&O) insurance is used by insurance agents, consultants, brokers and lawyers.[1] Other professions that commonly purchase professional liability insurance include accounting, engineering and financial services, construction and maintenance (general contractors, plumbers, etc., many of whom are also surety bonded), and transport. Some charities and other nonprofits/NGOs are also professional-liability insured."

Notice the professions who need Surety Bonds...imagine that with the Police. It's time for some new concepts in "protecting and serving"

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