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Check out the great cover of 'The New Yorker' (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries May 2012 OP
That's wonderful! nt gateley May 2012 #1
I LOVE the New Yorker elfin May 2012 #2
Goes with This: n2doc May 2012 #3
Both are awesome! dmr May 2012 #4
Love it! Little Star May 2012 #6
Makes my heart sing! Little Star May 2012 #5
I don't think conservatives are going to get it. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #7
I'm a little slow. *Rainbow*? n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2012 #8
signifies the LGBT community, a rainbow Whisp May 2012 #11
Gotcha. Thanks. n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2012 #13
Obama - making me proud to be an American - again. tabasco May 2012 #9
very creative and nice. Whisp May 2012 #10
Well, existentialist May 2012 #12
Gay. Not offended. Legit considerations. Smarmie Doofus May 2012 #14
he does a lot of talking about the economy Whisp May 2012 #15
"Well, It is nice" - I was going to ignore your post TBF May 2012 #16
I understand the need to celebrate, and existentialist May 2012 #20
Oh please! Can you think and chew gum at the same time? lunatica May 2012 #31
If it makes you feel better, 51% of the public approve of Obama's endorsement of marriage equality boxman15 May 2012 #17
I certainly hope that you are right in your analysis. existentialist May 2012 #21
Understandable, TBF May 2012 #25
Thank you. existentialist May 2012 #40
existentialist - were you able to watch the Jon Stewart show truedelphi May 2012 #34
The outrage has fallen flat with minorities too from what I've read. Rozlee May 2012 #38
I believe it will xxqqqzme May 2012 #28
I think the timing is OK lunatica May 2012 #32
The right wing evangelicals are all over social issues, that's all they have. It's about time the crunch60 May 2012 #36
Good points existentialist May 2012 #41
Love it. morningfog May 2012 #18
Nice! one_voice May 2012 #19
Yeah! Now let us challenge the LBGT Community to go into Overdrive cr8tvlde May 2012 #22
Spam deleted by OKNancy (MIR Team) Franks1 May 2012 #23
does anyone have the rainbow campaign logo ? JI7 May 2012 #24
I swiped these from FB (do a search for LGBT Obama) - TBF May 2012 #26
k&r HappyMe May 2012 #27
The New Yorker does a great job of providing visual commentary on current political discussion... progress2k12nbynd May 2012 #29
I love all of these positive vibes! loyalsister May 2012 #30
badass roscoeroscoe May 2012 #33
I also see it as being synonymous with the Rainbow Coalition created by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. crunch60 May 2012 #35
Well done. pinto May 2012 #37
Back to the top sarcasmo May 2012 #39

elfin

(6,262 posts)
2. I LOVE the New Yorker
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:55 PM
May 2012

Will keep this issue with the few others that have moved me to tears.

The one after 9/11 was also iconic.

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
12. Well,
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:34 PM
May 2012

It is nice.

I believe that Obama's announcement was, in a moral sense, the right thing to do.

However, I am not necessarily persuaded that it was the right thing to do from a political standpoint.

If it should turn out to cost Obama and the Democrats this election, we're all going to be hurting badly.


A number of prominent Democrats advised Obama, back in March, that if he was going to win this election he had to focus more on economic issues as opposed to social issues. OK, that's largely the Democratic establishment with whom we've had a few issues on occasion, but there are not total fools.

It is not as is we don't have economic issues to raise--not to mention such issues as international relations, immigration, environmental issues, etc.


While this may all be well and good, I don't think its going to win us the election either.


I certainly hope it doesn't hurt us in the election, but I certainly think that to win we must bring our primary focus to other matters.


I apologize if I've offended anyone; that is not my purpose in posting here.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
14. Gay. Not offended. Legit considerations.
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:43 PM
May 2012

It is "well". It is "good".

It is right and just.

I don't know what it means politically either. The "battleground " states make me nervous.

We may have to trust in the fairness and maturity of the American electorate to figure it out.


Scary stuff... but sometimes that's how history is made.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
15. he does a lot of talking about the economy
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:43 PM
May 2012

at least the President Obama that I have seen on the tv. I don't know who you are watching.

TBF

(32,056 posts)
16. "Well, It is nice" - I was going to ignore your post
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:53 PM
May 2012

but you know what - that has been the problem for many years. Too many folks giving in, holding their tongues, afraid that we'll upset someone. Every time we do that it moves us to the right. And THAT does not help us "politically". So with all due respect I am going to celebrate our President's historic message and encourage him to keep moving left. YMMV.

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
20. I understand the need to celebrate, and
Fri May 11, 2012, 10:32 PM
May 2012

you have a valid point too.

So, go ahead, celebrate a bit, but let's try to keep the public focus on broader issues too.

I did say too, I'm not asking anyone to retreat on the point.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
31. Oh please! Can you think and chew gum at the same time?
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:51 AM
May 2012

What makes you think that the DU gay people or straight people can't think about all the issues at the same time? Because the majority of us are celebrating something historic and monumental you think we're forgetting everything else?

Give me a break.

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
17. If it makes you feel better, 51% of the public approve of Obama's endorsement of marriage equality
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:07 PM
May 2012

Compared to 45% who don't. The vast, vast majority of that 45% weren't voting for him to begin with, I'd imagine.

My purely political take on this: This will help the president. Gay donors will donate big to his campaign and other Democratic causes, young people are fired up again, and the only people who vote only against gay marriage were not going to vote for him anyway. It doesn't concern me that this may have pissed them off and motivated them. They were pissed and motivated to begin with. If Romney wants to make this about social issues and same-sex marriage, then he will lose on a LBJ-Goldwater scale. Obama is on the right side of history here, and he knows it.

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
21. I certainly hope that you are right in your analysis.
Fri May 11, 2012, 10:34 PM
May 2012

I guess the referendum in North Carolina, which is considered a swing state has me a bit on edge.

TBF

(32,056 posts)
25. Understandable,
Sat May 12, 2012, 08:27 AM
May 2012

I know there is both real and faux concern out there, and the swing states are definitely a concern in my book. At the risk of sounding like our dear, departed Lozo I would suggest checking the Gallup polls this week, though. The numbers aren't bad ...



http://www.gallup.com/poll/147662/first-time-majority-americans-favor-legal-gay-marriage.aspx

Now his focus will go back to the economy - and I have to believe that does take 99% of his attention.

Have a good weekend.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
34. existentialist - were you able to watch the Jon Stewart show
Sat May 12, 2012, 01:42 PM
May 2012

The other night? Stewart showed Jeff Smith (I think) a top spokesman for Fox coming on the air and not being upset about the decision, but instead saying the President's decision was historic.

Then Stewart went on to show clips of so many RW news casters saying how deplorable it was that the President was using a popular issue to again win the WH. Not an "immoral" issue, or an "ungodly"
issue - their big beef right now is that the President has done something that is "popular." So they claim it is pandering.





Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
38. The outrage has fallen flat with minorities too from what I've read.
Sat May 12, 2012, 05:07 PM
May 2012

There had been worry that blacks and Latinos would pull away from Obama because of the same-sex issue, but I also read on CNN that Latinos and African-Americans approve of the measure in higher numbers than the general population. Personal observation from a lapsed Catholic: my family is a huge Latino Catholic one; I have a gay nephew and a lesbian cousin. For the most part, they all believe (the older ones anyway) in equal rights for gays except for marriage. The elders have brought into the one man/one women tripe of the Church. But, aside from groans of dismay after Obama's announcement and some "now-look-what-he's-dones", the rumbles died down pretty quick and it's back to bashing Republicans and Mitt as usual. Church doctrine on gay marriage isn't affecting their vote anymore than the birth control debacle did. Hopefully, other Catholics are being as sanguine about it as they are.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
28. I believe it will
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:26 AM
May 2012

help. It will help turn out kids, who, if polls are any indication, were not particularly energized. My only concern is is it too early. Obama's announcement would have been a great 'October surprise'. It can be re-energized if a big deal is made of inclusion in the DNC platform.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
32. I think the timing is OK
Sat May 12, 2012, 12:00 PM
May 2012

It gives people the opportunity to actually react and jump into the fray and dialogue and debate the issue of equality and it give it time to sink in and become more normal in people's thinking.

The Republicans have lost one of their biggest wedge issues this year. It's hurting them not to be able to use gays to instill hate and loathing and fear into their constituents.

Example: No one even cares that gays are allowed to openly serve in the military anymore and that was a debate that raged until just a very short time ago. People become used to things very, very quickly. The same thing happened with any minority that finally got their equal rights. The world didn't end. The sky didn't fall. God didn't strike out in wrath. Everything stayed just as it was before only with a little more equality.

With some luck the issue of marriage equality will be so last season by election time.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
36. The right wing evangelicals are all over social issues, that's all they have. It's about time the
Sat May 12, 2012, 02:42 PM
May 2012

Dems took a stand, in this case the it was President Obama. I commend him for that. It's a very important issue. I am also happy that he did not let politics get in the way of something he thought was about justice, fairness and equality.

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
41. Good points
Sat May 12, 2012, 08:41 PM
May 2012

and the other responses to my post have persuaded me that my concerns were overblown.


And thnak you for your response too.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
22. Yeah! Now let us challenge the LBGT Community to go into Overdrive
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:07 PM
May 2012

... financially and socially and with new political empowerment to "come out" and appropriately support President Obama. Same for the rest of The Rainbow.

We may not all be George Clooneys, but we have a circle of influence...let's use it.

 

progress2k12nbynd

(221 posts)
29. The New Yorker does a great job of providing visual commentary on current political discussion...
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:42 AM
May 2012

yet alot of people have to accept that it's not meant to be a liberal magazine, or a conservative magazine, it's a magazine period. I remember this cover which caused discussion on DU that was so vitriolic that it practically brought the forums to a halt for a few days back in 2008.



I love their satire; if we want to dish it we have to be able to take it too.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
30. I love all of these positive vibes!
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:44 AM
May 2012

That one act transformed the mood and atmosphere all over this country. It's similar to the feelings right after Obama was elected.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
35. I also see it as being synonymous with the Rainbow Coalition created by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Sat May 12, 2012, 02:20 PM
May 2012

Beautiful, Inspiring Cover.

The Rainbow PUSH Coalition is the product of a social justice movement that grew out of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference's (SCLC) Operation Breadbasket. Founded by Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Operation Breadbasket sought to combine theology and social justice, and to effect progressive economic, educational, and social policy in America. In 1966, Dr. King appointed Jesse L. Jackson, Sr. to serve as the first director of Operation Breadbasket in Chicago, IL.

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