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peecoolyour

(336 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 01:49 PM Jun 2015

NEW SNOWDEN LEAKS: In mid-2012, the Obama administration expanded the NSA's powers with secret memos

WASHINGTON — Without public notice or debate, the Obama administration has expanded the National Security Agency’s warrantless surveillance of Americans’ international Internet traffic to search for evidence of malicious computer hacking, according to classified N.S.A. documents.

In mid-2012, Justice Department lawyers wrote two secret memos permitting the spy agency to begin hunting on Internet cables, without a warrant and on American soil, for data linked to computer intrusions originating abroad — including traffic that flows to suspicious Internet addresses or contains malware, the documents show.

The Justice Department allowed the agency to monitor only addresses and “cybersignatures” — patterns associated with computer intrusions — that it could tie to foreign governments. But the documents also note that the N.S.A. sought to target hackers even when it could not establish any links to foreign powers.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/05/us/hunting-for-hackers-nsa-secretly-expands-internet-spying-at-us-border.html
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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. that's exactly what the NSA should be doing.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 01:51 PM
Jun 2015
The Justice Department allowed the agency to monitor only addresses and “cybersignatures” — patterns associated with computer intrusions — that it could tie to foreign governments.


I don't think there's going to be much criticism, let alone outrage, over these revelations.

 

peecoolyour

(336 posts)
4. "the N.S.A. sought to target hackers even when it could not establish any links to foreign powers."
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 01:55 PM
Jun 2015

Domestic hackers are a law enforcement problem, not an NSA problem.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. meh, not like they were badges in cyberspace detailing their physical location
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jun 2015

and loyalties.

when things get measured in nanoseconds, it's a bit implausible to suggest that they get warrants before tracing an attack.



 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. Um, yeah, so? That's their job, you know, to monitor foreign communications.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 01:53 PM
Jun 2015

And just because the NSA sought greater authority doesn't mean crap.

Just wait until Kim Jong Un gets wind of this, though!
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Wilms

(26,795 posts)
7. Foreign communications have included...
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 03:34 PM
Jun 2015

...calls placed within the borders to places within the borders, but that were routed via foreign country.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
6. People claim to care about the Constitution, yet they defend this behavior.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jun 2015

Cognitive dissonance is a pain.

jalan48

(13,856 posts)
9. We should just acknowledge that the National Security State truly rules the country.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jun 2015

Congress and the President are there to serve as a facade for Democracy. The NSA, FBI, CIA, etc. don't change when a new political party gains control, they simply remain where they are. When's the last time a President/Congress cleaned house with these secret agencies? Maybe the 70's with the Church Committee.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
10. The Age of Privacy is dead and gone!
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jun 2015

The digital age drove a wooden stake thru its heart!.... I welcome and embrace the complete and total transparency that is come!

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