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(85,996 posts)
Sun May 13, 2012, 09:38 AM May 2012

5 Things You (likely) Never Knew About President Obama’s Mum:



Five unordinary facts about President Obama’s mother compiled by ABC News include:

President Obama’s mother’s full name is Stanley Ann Dunham. Although she used her middle name for the majority of her adult life, Dunham went by Stanley throughout grade school, the name that her father, who wanted a son, gave her.

Over the course of Dunham’s short life - she died when she was in her early 50s - she went by four different names. Growing up it was Stanley Dunham. In college she was Ann Dunham. During her first marriage, to Barack Obama’s father, she was Ann Obama. And after her second marriage she was Ann Soetoro.

Dunham died a few weeks short of her 53rd birthday, of uterine and ovarian cancer, two years before her son was elected to the Illinois state senate.

It may have taken her two decades and countless trips back-and-forth between Indonesia and the University of Hawaii to complete, but in 1992 Ann Dunham was awarded her Ph.D. in anthropology. Her 1,000-page dissertation explored the indigenous craft of blacksmithing in Indonesia, a topic she had studied for more than 20 years. She died two years after completing it.

She had instilled in her son the importance of education, making him rise before the sun came up to do his homework. She would tell people that her son was gifted, “that he can do anything he ever wants in the world, even be president of the United States.”


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5 Things You (likely) Never Knew About President Obama’s Mum: (Original Post) bigtree May 2012 OP
And her son stole her face. alphafemale May 2012 #1
Her oldest granddaughter, too. GoCubsGo May 2012 #2
Just back dated. She never got to see either of her grandbabies. alphafemale May 2012 #3
The Obama's married in October 1992, so my guess is yes, Ilsa May 2012 #4
I think he looks like his maternal grand dad. Myrina May 2012 #52
same thing really nt alphafemale May 2012 #55
What a wonderful Mother goclark May 2012 #5
+1 freshwest May 2012 #7
R#10 & K for, I just sent this to a raving wingnut who sputtered "Flake" about her. UTUSN May 2012 #6
A great mom who Obama said passed for lack of healthcare soon enough. freshwest May 2012 #8
so sad! BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #16
They both got those looks from this man malaise May 2012 #20
It's amazing how much he resembles his grandfather. TahitiNut May 2012 #23
They do look alike malaise May 2012 #39
What a sweet picture. How can the right possibly say Obama hates white people? They're crazy. freshwest May 2012 #24
They know better but it's part of the propaganda malaise May 2012 #41
Part of the double-secret, reverse-reverse racism plot. Okay, I got it. LOL! freshwest May 2012 #42
I've seen this pic before blaze May 2012 #43
It really is a lovely photo malaise May 2012 #57
I love this picture. Not just that it melts your heart. alphafemale May 2012 #56
LOL malaise May 2012 #58
Kind of mean of her parents to name her Stanley - jeez... polichick May 2012 #9
I thought the same thing. fasttense May 2012 #11
I've known a few cases of that. CBHagman May 2012 #13
i had a girl cousin named christopher barbtries May 2012 #28
Not sure that naming your kids after interstate highway exit signs is much of an improvement eridani May 2012 #46
Actually, "Madison" refers to Madison Av, spooky3 May 2012 #53
Exactly. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #14
really. BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #18
My dad wanted a son, too. Was going to name my older sister after himself but she was, well, a girl! freshwest May 2012 #26
He may have done her a favor noamnety May 2012 #21
It was a certain generation. I had an aunt whose first name was 'Burns' after an inlaw's last name. freshwest May 2012 #22
It was a blessing for her. I am about the same age that Stanley Ann Dunham JDPriestly May 2012 #25
My mom went through the same thing..... madmom May 2012 #27
I had an uncle named Shirley (born about 1920). He didn't feel like my grandparents were mean. kestrel91316 May 2012 #33
That's why I think too, it's just wrong. nt Raine May 2012 #47
my Uncle Ronald named his daughter after himself. provis99 May 2012 #48
Thank you, Ann riverwalker May 2012 #10
1++++++++++++++++++++++ patrice May 2012 #17
let me second patrice's comment: 1++++++++++++++++++++++ BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #19
It's too bad her own father didn't have faith in HER. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #12
I think you probably don't know much about their relationship. kestrel91316 May 2012 #34
I think you probably don't know much about their relationship. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #36
Yes, and it's so easy to pass judgement. Which would be my point. kestrel91316 May 2012 #37
I don't know. xmas74 May 2012 #45
Wow, that makes me BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #15
Will this do? silverweb May 2012 #29
What a wonderful mom.... musical_soul May 2012 #30
Lots of PHOTOS of Obama's Mom and Grandmother in the VIDEO below Tx4obama May 2012 #31
+1 bigtree May 2012 #32
That's awesome- thanks! loyalsister May 2012 #38
There a a book about her out, she was a wonderful person! Odin2005 May 2012 #35
A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama's Mother, by Janny Scott Tx4obama May 2012 #40
How cool is that 4 t 4 May 2012 #44
Obama Married A Woman DallasNE May 2012 #49
Actually I don't see that - TBF May 2012 #51
Actually, there is an entirely different discussion for why the name "Stanley" was chosen BlueMTexpat May 2012 #50
re: 5 Things You (likely) Never Knew About President Obama’s Mum: allan01 May 2012 #54
 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
3. Just back dated. She never got to see either of her grandbabies.
Sun May 13, 2012, 10:04 AM
May 2012

Did she even get to meet the future first lady?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
4. The Obama's married in October 1992, so my guess is yes,
Sun May 13, 2012, 10:17 AM
May 2012

She met her before her death in November 1995. She died before Malia and Sasha were born.

But she was in Indonesia a long time before her cancer diagnosis, so I wonder how well she knew Michelle.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
5. What a wonderful Mother
Sun May 13, 2012, 10:21 AM
May 2012

Thanks for posting this on Mother's Day and hello to all the wonderful Moms on DU

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
6. R#10 & K for, I just sent this to a raving wingnut who sputtered "Flake" about her.
Sun May 13, 2012, 10:28 AM
May 2012

That would be his PUBLIC word for her.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. A great mom who Obama said passed for lack of healthcare soon enough.
Sun May 13, 2012, 10:37 AM
May 2012

Thanks for that story and that is exactly where he got his looks from. Real life and real people with a lot of love.

And this is where the wing nuts get the designation 'Soetoro' from, her second husband. Where do these people get off? Do they refer to all children of divorced parents in such a way? I don't think so. They should be ashamed of themselves.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
16. so sad!
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:30 AM
May 2012



And, about repukes ---- "They should be ashamed of themselves."

yes, you're not kidding. For SO many things.

But they never are!

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
23. It's amazing how much he resembles his grandfather.
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:44 AM
May 2012


It's ALMOST like young Barack is sitting on the shoulders of the elder Barack.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
24. What a sweet picture. How can the right possibly say Obama hates white people? They're crazy.
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:57 AM
May 2012

Guess they come from less functional families than the President did.

blaze

(6,360 posts)
43. I've seen this pic before
Sun May 13, 2012, 06:24 PM
May 2012

but every time I look at it, it makes me grin from ear to ear!

They DO look SO much alike!!!

He kinda lucked out in the maternal Grand Parent department.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
56. I love this picture. Not just that it melts your heart.
Mon May 14, 2012, 06:22 PM
May 2012

But I also love the look of that 60's and 70's era Kodachrome.

Makes all the world a sunny day....oh yeah.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
11. I thought the same thing.
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:13 AM
May 2012

The poor girl growing up knowing her parents always wanted a boy instead.

Every time she said or heard her name she would be reminded of that fact. What a perfectly horrible thing to do to a baby girl.

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
13. I've known a few cases of that.
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:20 AM
May 2012

In my graduating class there was a girl named Allen. I don't know what her parents' motivation was, but I do know her sisters also had masculine-sounding names.

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
28. i had a girl cousin named christopher
Sun May 13, 2012, 12:19 PM
May 2012

and it was her mother who had wanted a boy that badly. she sent out announcements (this was well before the internet) that didn't reveal the baby's sex so most people assumed it was a boy.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
46. Not sure that naming your kids after interstate highway exit signs is much of an improvement
Sun May 13, 2012, 10:11 PM
May 2012

Madison (Wisconsin?) Kennedy (Expressway?)

spooky3

(34,444 posts)
53. Actually, "Madison" refers to Madison Av,
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:12 AM
May 2012

The name boomed in popularity after the movie "Splash", when the mermaid was exploring New York and saw the street sign. When asked her name she used it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
26. My dad wanted a son, too. Was going to name my older sister after himself but she was, well, a girl!
Sun May 13, 2012, 12:05 PM
May 2012

So they just changed a couple of letters. They thought I'd be a boy, too, planned to name me after my grandfather. When I was born and was... Meh!

Another girl, they altered a couple of letters as well. Dad then tired to teach my sister to do things around the house, but it didn't work. I ended up being the tomboy and picked a career he might have liked. But he didn't live to see it.

I don't think that level of silly existed for Obama's mother. She seemed to have a clear vision of where she was going, even though she didn't live as long as she could have.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
21. He may have done her a favor
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:37 AM
May 2012

There's some evidence that women with masculine names are more financially successful. Not sure if that's because the parents also foster more values thought of as masculine, or whether it's because of the bias against women by the rest of the world.

http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/life/boys-names-better-for-girls-20091027-hih6.html

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
22. It was a certain generation. I had an aunt whose first name was 'Burns' after an inlaw's last name.
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:38 AM
May 2012

I thought it was rather odd but didn't mention it, and she never complained. Her middle name was 'Lulu' after an aunt. She wrote her name as Bernice, but her brothers called her 'Burnie.' Just different times.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
25. It was a blessing for her. I am about the same age that Stanley Ann Dunham
Sun May 13, 2012, 12:01 PM
May 2012

would have been had she lived. Girls were pretty limited by the social strictures of the time. Having a boy's name was probably an advantage to her. It may have widened her expectations for herself and taught her to respect the limitations her society wanted to place on her.

Anyway, she certainly did not stop at the boundaries that were placed around the rest of us women who came of age in the early 1960s.

madmom

(9,681 posts)
27. My mom went through the same thing.....
Sun May 13, 2012, 12:07 PM
May 2012

her dad THOUGHT she was a boy (back then men had nothing to do with babies, so her mom let him think that for about 6 months) He named her Richard. She still to this day answers to Richard by closed family members, her real name is Laura.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
33. I had an uncle named Shirley (born about 1920). He didn't feel like my grandparents were mean.
Sun May 13, 2012, 01:07 PM
May 2012

He DID, however box in Golden Gloves for a time and did quite well, lol. And he became a man of the law.

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
48. my Uncle Ronald named his daughter after himself.
Sun May 13, 2012, 10:55 PM
May 2012

He just called her Rona, instead of Ronald. ah, the monumentalism of the male ego...

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. let me second patrice's comment: 1++++++++++++++++++++++
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:35 AM
May 2012

how true. really makes you stop and think........very very deep.

Darth_Kitten

(14,192 posts)
12. It's too bad her own father didn't have faith in HER.
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:19 AM
May 2012

Given a name that's a constant reminder on how she "failed" by being the wrong sex.

Her own accomplishments were noteworthy in and of themselves.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
34. I think you probably don't know much about their relationship.
Sun May 13, 2012, 01:09 PM
May 2012

I happen to think they probably had a close relationship, and the name was likely the source of much laughter between them.

Darth_Kitten

(14,192 posts)
36. I think you probably don't know much about their relationship.
Sun May 13, 2012, 01:39 PM
May 2012

You are making a judgement call as well, you know?

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
37. Yes, and it's so easy to pass judgement. Which would be my point.
Sun May 13, 2012, 01:53 PM
May 2012

I have heard no accounts that indicate she suffered because of her name or hated her father for it. Have YOU??

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
45. I don't know.
Sun May 13, 2012, 07:46 PM
May 2012

It really depends on how she and her family handled the name. I've known other women with men's names that have done well for themselves-childhood usually being the hardest time for them. By the time they become adults they often come to respect their unusual names.

(This being said by someone who has a rather unusual feminized version of a very masculine name. It's awful to deal with as a child but as an adult it's something I gain many compliments over. If someone calls out my name I don't have to worry about twenty other women turning around to respond. It seems to me that she dealt with it well.)

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
15. Wow, that makes me
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:26 AM
May 2012

want the smiling smilie with a tear in the eye!! Again!

Dang it, I still can't find one of those!!!

musical_soul

(775 posts)
30. What a wonderful mom....
Sun May 13, 2012, 12:33 PM
May 2012

I already knew that though when Obama said his mother would get him up early in the morning for tutoring. When he complained, she was like "This isn't a picnic for me either, buster!" She took responsibility for her child in all the ways a mom should.

Happy Mother's Day, everybody!

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
31. Lots of PHOTOS of Obama's Mom and Grandmother in the VIDEO below
Sun May 13, 2012, 12:59 PM
May 2012




p.s. And a great photo at the 1:18 minute mark which includes Obama's sister Maya

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
38. That's awesome- thanks!
Sun May 13, 2012, 03:20 PM
May 2012

He has his grandfather's ears and his grandma's glint in the eyes. His broad smile really stands out as they have smaller mouths.
I have the book but haven't delved into it yet. It's interesting how both he and Bill Clinton grew up without their father.

4 t 4

(2,407 posts)
44. How cool is that
Sun May 13, 2012, 07:02 PM
May 2012

Last edited Sun May 13, 2012, 07:39 PM - Edit history (1)

She had instilled in her son the importance of education, making him rise before the sun came up to do his homework. She would tell people that her son was gifted, “that he can do anything he ever wants in the world, even be president of the United States.”

What are the odds?? makes me start to rethink "things happen for a reason" and " what you put out is what you get" Too strange to be ignored but yet I know life doesn't work that way.




TBF

(32,056 posts)
51. Actually I don't see that -
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:51 AM
May 2012

From what I've read they were very different women. I like them both very much but for different reasons. Stanley Ann's life was more exotic - living in different parts of the world and finally settling in Hawaii with the son she raised pretty much on her own. Michelle was a working class child, dug in and studied/worked hard in her pursuit of the American dream. The only similarity would be their dedication to their children, but I think you would find that in most moms honestly.

BlueMTexpat

(15,368 posts)
50. Actually, there is an entirely different discussion for why the name "Stanley" was chosen
Mon May 14, 2012, 05:43 AM
May 2012

in a recent WaPo article and it wasn't because her father wanted a son. See

" ...She was a woman of many names. Born Stanley Ann Dunham, she assumed, as most people did, that her unusual first name was imposed by her father. An uncle tells a different story, attributing the choice to Madelyn Dunham, Stanley Ann’s mother, who as a small-town Kansas girl yearned to emulate Bette Davis, the sophisticated actress she saw on the big screen at the air-conditioned Augusta Theater. While Madelyn was pregnant, Davis was starring in a movie in which she played a female character named Stanley. (As it happened, no two people could have been less alike than Madelyn’s daughter and this film character, who was cruel, cunning and racist.) Stanley Ann became Stannie Ann in grade school, Stanley in high school and, finally, Ann in adulthood. Her last name changed as often, from Dunham to Obama to Soetoro to a final spelling of Sutoro. ..."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-44th-president-was-his-mothers-son/2012/05/11/gIQA6NV1IU_story.html

Which version is correct? We may never know for sure. But, IMO, this version is a kinder one.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
54. re: 5 Things You (likely) Never Knew About President Obama’s Mum:
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:17 AM
May 2012

@ cb hangman there are several varinats of the name allen. list as follows : allan, my spelling . allen ( femine variant) alan. also the obamas ar very good looking in my humble opinion. this whole thing stems from the fact that : 1 we (democrats intrruped yet again their supposed right of ownership of the white house, the rethugs think they own everything including the w/h.forget the rest of us) . 2 hes liberal, male and black. obamas mum should be congratulated for doing a fine job w her son . huzza huzza mrs obama .

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