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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:22 AM Jun 2015

Western tourists jailed in Malaysia for "upsetting the gods" by posing nude on a sacred mountain

A Malaysian tribal chief has called on Western tourists who were arrested for stripping naked on top of a mountain to pay a fine of ten buffalo or face jail, it has been reported.

Former British public schoolgirl Eleanor Hawkins is among the group accused of 'upsetting the gods' by posing nude on the country's highest peak days before an earthquake killed 18 climbers on the mountain.

Eleanor, 24, from Derby, was detained at a Sabah airport yesterday while trying to fly to Kuala Lumpur.

Last night it was reported that one local tribal chief had called on the tourists to pay a ‘sogit’ or fine of ten buffalo or face jail.

Priest Tindarama Aman Sirom Simbuna said: ‘The tourists who angered the guardian of the mountain should pay for their mistakes by giving sogit.

'This should be in the form of ten male or female buffalo'.

Indigenous people say Mount Kinabalu - where the group posed for their photo - is a resting place for the spirits of the departed.

Miss Hawkins, an aerospace engineering student, is said to be 'very upset' as she sits in a police cell in Borneo facing obscenity charges, which can carry a three-month prison sentence.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3117940/British-woman-four-tourists-arrested-stripping-naked-mountain-Malaysia-locals-say-angered-tribal-spirits-caused-deadly-earthquake.html
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CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
1. My advice to tourists is to stay out of countries that STILL believe in sacred mountains
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:34 AM
Jun 2015

Of course that does include parts of the US, Hawaii in particular, South Dakota...

struggle4progress

(118,356 posts)
2. When traveling abroad, maybe it's a good idea not to immediately post on the web
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:08 AM
Jun 2015

photos showing you doing stuff that might offend the local folk

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. Please imagine tourists posing nude on Arlington Cemetery...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:04 AM
Jun 2015

... or on a plantation, right next to an exhibition showing chains and whips that were used to brutalize african slaves...
... or at the Lincoln monument...
... or at the Washington monument...
... or in front of the White House...
... or in front of a monument memorizing 9/11...



Come on! Nobody is getting hurt! What are you getting pissed at?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. Or Justin Bieber and his monkey going to Anne Frank's house, and writing in the guest book
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:17 AM
Jun 2015

Last edited Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:27 PM - Edit history (1)

"if Anne were alive, hopefully she'd be a Belieber!"

Oh, I don't have to imagine it, it actually happened.

Anyway, I don't see a huge line of people here complaining about the authorities having a problem with it. Personally, regardless of how I feel about the validity of "sacred" mountains (or monuments, for that matter) or uptight-ness around nudity, the fact remains that it is basic common sense, as a traveler in a foreign land, to respect their customs around stuff like that.

Like in Thailand, don't make fun of the king. I think kings are silly, as a general concept, but- their country. I can respect that.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
7. That is good common sense advice about traveling
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:16 AM
Jun 2015

I have a friend who lived in Thailand for years and I remember him telling me that saying anything against the king is considered a crime.

Also I didn't know that about Justine Bieber, but why does it not surprise me.

Eugene

(61,964 posts)
6. Tourists who stripped in Malaysia released from jail
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:50 AM
Jun 2015

Source: USA Today

Tourists who stripped in Malaysia released from jail

Kim Hjelmgaard, USA TODAY 7:18 a.m. EDT June 12, 2015

A British woman and three companions were freed from a Malaysian jail Friday after they pleaded guilty in court to committing obscene acts in public after they stripped naked on a mountain there.

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The four travelers were sentenced to three days in prison, time they already served from the time of their arrest on June 9.

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Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/12/malaysia-naked-tourists/71109546/

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. When traveling it is generally a good idea to use good decorum and respect
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:18 AM
Jun 2015

the local customs. It's just common sense.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. Backwards assed country.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jun 2015

Fucking bullshit. At least they won't be beheaded for it, though, as would be the case in other backwards assed countries.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. There may or may not be a mountain god that causes earthquakes when naked tourists piss it off,
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:21 AM
Jun 2015

but why take a chance?

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