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monmouth

(21,078 posts)
Mon May 14, 2012, 06:55 AM May 2012

Joey Scar's panties in a wad early this morning. The new Obama campaign ad has hit

home and hard re Bain Capital. It is a tough and to the point ad with former workers and they tell the story of how Bain, under Romney, came in and dumped the company. Employees lost their jobs, etc. Joey is just so outraged that the campaign would select this story for an ad against Romney. It's capitalism and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't and on and on. The ad is spot on, very powerful and made Joey very upset. I liked it very much.

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Joey Scar's panties in a wad early this morning. The new Obama campaign ad has hit (Original Post) monmouth May 2012 OP
Republicans and their talking heads don't like the truth. liberal N proud May 2012 #1
or bright spotlights ... like cockroaches ... zbdent May 2012 #20
Did Scum look sour? Was that smirky squint-eyed grin wiped off his face? lunatica May 2012 #2
He looked and sounded like he wanted to cry. Moosepoop May 2012 #4
He is really crying now. butterfly77 May 2012 #7
Well, that just made my day! lunatica May 2012 #11
He's STILL whining. Atman May 2012 #12
If Karl Rove did something THAT honest I'd ask him if he was feeling alright, or if he'd TrollBuster9090 May 2012 #25
Yeah, I especially enjoyed Halperin handing Surya Gayatri May 2012 #32
OMG, Halperin said that??? I have a new respect for him. How delicious..n/t monmouth May 2012 #40
I usually don't care much for Halpern PatSeg May 2012 #56
Agree (Geez Pat, we seem to agree on so much..LOL). Halpern can be very wishy-washy monmouth May 2012 #62
Joe often acts like "Morning Joe" PatSeg May 2012 #64
They can dish it out but they can't take it. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2012 #42
yeah, well rove was atwater's protege newspeak May 2012 #59
a BIG effin crybaby is what he is! Man, if you can dish it out but can't take CTyankee May 2012 #75
While he was ranting, Mika had her head down a little with a sly smile on her face. I think monmouth May 2012 #21
I love that little Mika smirk. nt Kahuna May 2012 #36
Plus the O campaign has the gall to vet BeyondGeography May 2012 #3
Considering that the RW has already "exposed" my wife for HER contributions... brooklynite May 2012 #5
If Joe was angry about it... kentuck May 2012 #6
+1! n/t Surya Gayatri May 2012 #33
+1 uponit7771 May 2012 #45
Video without GOP Joe whining: freshwest May 2012 #71
The ROMNEY-GEKKO video with Reaganesque theme music: freshwest May 2012 #74
It's not healthy capitalism, Joe - it's PREDATORY crony capitalism. blm May 2012 #8
That is what I have always said cindyperry2010 May 2012 #9
He's also very upset that the super wealthy can't buy sufrommich May 2012 #10
The Obama campaign should run those ads during his show. JoePhilly May 2012 #13
YEEESSSSSS! Surya Gayatri May 2012 #34
Yes indeed! freshwest May 2012 #70
I can't believe that piece of dung is still on the air tabasco May 2012 #14
THIS! Nuf sed. nt daaron May 2012 #78
This is a great ad Ghost of Tom Joad May 2012 #15
Did you notice Mika with her head lowered and a smile on her face. Geist and Halperin were no help. monmouth May 2012 #22
I also noticed that Mika was subtly rolling her eyes at one point as avebury May 2012 #27
Rat ner said the ad was unfair, I lost respect for him. julian09 May 2012 #73
I think it's too early... dash_bannon May 2012 #16
But, as somebody on Joe Scar said, now is Surya Gayatri May 2012 #35
+1 uponit7771 May 2012 #48
Americans for Prosperity is hitting Nelson really hard here in FL lark May 2012 #58
yes, when I see "americans for prosperity" newspeak May 2012 #60
True. Dawson Leery May 2012 #61
The plan is to define him NOW. Don't let him define himself. Pirate Smile May 2012 #38
No. You are suggesting giving Romney an inch. mwb970 May 2012 #47
+1 uponit7771 May 2012 #49
Maybe even AFTER Labor Day Auntie Bush May 2012 #53
It is never too early to attack Republicans Occulus May 2012 #57
Don't worry, this is only the beginnning. demgrrrll May 2012 #65
Uhh, Joey, why doesn't capitalism work for the finance industry? Skidmore May 2012 #17
They are replaying it.. butterfly77 May 2012 #18
Is this the ad? pacalo May 2012 #19
Yeah that's powerful stuff. Ganja Ninja May 2012 #23
Very, very powerful and truthful. Kudos to the Obama campaign, excellent job...n/t monmouth May 2012 #24
Yep, that's the one. Buns_of_Fire May 2012 #29
Thank you for posting! tallahasseedem May 2012 #39
Wow. ceile May 2012 #54
If Mitt didn't want ads about how he and Bain destroy jobs, pension and entire industries for a buck fasttense May 2012 #26
Joe Scum spews the meme for the day malaise May 2012 #28
What? Isn't he Proud of Mittens? n2doc May 2012 #30
That was an entire other level of crazy! Atman May 2012 #44
I can't wait til it gets really heated up if this is how they come out swinging. Kalidurga May 2012 #31
Leading that half-blind professor into a closed door and then giggling about it was disturbing.n/t monmouth May 2012 #50
I only caught the end of the program and Joe was snappyturtle May 2012 #37
Especially for Independents and people not yet engaged or "in the middle." n/t monmouth May 2012 #41
One of the workers in the ad looks like riverbendviewgal May 2012 #43
That add hits home, man....wow...if you didn't dislike rMOney before that add it might change uponit7771 May 2012 #46
Bob Newhart AlbertCat May 2012 #52
Very powerful ad! tilsammans May 2012 #51
Great to see them getting out ahead of Rmoney and his dastardly flamingdem May 2012 #55
I saw that. It was a VERY GOOD ad. It upset Joey. nt Honeycombe8 May 2012 #63
No transcript, sadly nxylas May 2012 #66
If you go to MSNBC.com and click on Morning Joe they very possibly have it up..n/t monmouth May 2012 #69
I did nxylas May 2012 #76
Since Joe did look like an idiot, smarter heads prevailed...LOL.....n/t monmouth May 2012 #77
a supporter yelled out "Give 'em Hell, Harry!". Truman replied, "I don't give them Hell. I just tell yellowcanine May 2012 #67
Here's the deal... Aviation Pro May 2012 #68
Joe's only attacks? Nevernose May 2012 #72

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. Did Scum look sour? Was that smirky squint-eyed grin wiped off his face?
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:22 AM
May 2012

If it was, then good. Any time he looks sour means something good is happening.

Moosepoop

(1,922 posts)
4. He looked and sounded like he wanted to cry.
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:33 AM
May 2012

He was positively whining... and whining... and whining...

It was great.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
12. He's STILL whining.
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:47 AM
May 2012

He's SHOCKED! "What if Karl Rove did something like this? WHAAA!"

Uh, Joe, you fucking idiot...Karl Rove practically invented this. It goes back to Lee Atwater and beyond. Poor, poor Joe...Democrats are finally playing GOP-style hardball, and Joe is beside himself.

It's quite humorous to watch, because every one of the usual-suspect GOP panelists is telling him "get over it...it's politics." Mark Halperin even closed the last segment with a very sarcastic "let's just go down to the park and play beanbags."



Joe HATES getting beat up on his own show!

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
25. If Karl Rove did something THAT honest I'd ask him if he was feeling alright, or if he'd
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:29 AM
May 2012

been standing too close to George W. on the golf course and been beaned by a stray golf ball.

No Jo, you can not draw a false equivalence between THIS and Rovian tactics. Feel free to draw an equivalence when Obama's operatives ask some billionaire asshole to start a SWIFTBOAT campaign against Romney, telling a bunch of lies, and then when his reputation is in ruins, appoint the son of a bitch to be Ambassador to Belgium during a recess as payola.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
32. Yeah, I especially enjoyed Halperin handing
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:13 AM
May 2012

Scar his ass on a platter.

Joe looked and sounded genuinely shocked that his usual coterie of sycophants (Geist & Halperin) would come down on the side of "all's fair in war and politics".

PatSeg

(47,621 posts)
56. I usually don't care much for Halpern
Mon May 14, 2012, 01:44 PM
May 2012

but he was spot on this morning. I was really impressed.

Meanwhile, Scarborough was acting like this was a new political attack, but its been around forever and he knows it. It was used against Romney when he ran for governor and again in 2008 primaries. Joe seemed to be very alone in his opinions this morning.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
62. Agree (Geez Pat, we seem to agree on so much..LOL). Halpern can be very wishy-washy
Mon May 14, 2012, 02:27 PM
May 2012

most of the time and carries water for the right, but I think they all tire of Joe's drama. I love when Donnie Deutsch is on, he gives it to Joe often and with a smile on his face..

PatSeg

(47,621 posts)
64. Joe often acts like "Morning Joe"
Mon May 14, 2012, 02:46 PM
May 2012

is his own little boys club and treats Mika like she's a female infiltrator, putting her down or ignoring her. Meanwhile, she is the one who tries to keep the show on track. Joe is so lazy, he doesn't care if they have to go to break or introduce the next guest because he knows she will do it. Mika gets a lot of crap from viewers, but she is quite a different person when the bully isn't there.

Oh yes, the Deutsch/Scarborough face-offs are such fun to watch. Joe often walks right into it, forgetting he's not king of all he surveys!

Of course we agree a lot - we're the cool kids!



newspeak

(4,847 posts)
59. yeah, well rove was atwater's protege
Mon May 14, 2012, 01:49 PM
May 2012

and the lies, the touched up photos and every other dirty trick, down to voter fraud, was on the table. So, joe, telling the truth what bain did is like those rovian tricks? I don't think so, but please go on about how rove, the mastermind of dirty, lying tricks is some honest, upright comparison.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
75. a BIG effin crybaby is what he is! Man, if you can dish it out but can't take
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:05 PM
May 2012

it, well tough shit, buddy!

Did he know how LAME he sounded? It was kinda embarrassing...

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
21. While he was ranting, Mika had her head down a little with a sly smile on her face. I think
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:22 AM
May 2012

that drove him over the brink after the ad. Halperin and Geist weren't much help either, both stating the ad was powerful. Poor Joey, and this is only Monday..LOL.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
6. If Joe was angry about it...
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:36 AM
May 2012

Then the Obama campaign should spend another $25 million and run it for another month.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
74. The ROMNEY-GEKKO video with Reaganesque theme music:
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:02 PM
May 2012


Ah, if only Americans had stopped Reagan. Going to be a hard road to turn this around. Don't give up, it's only the present and future you're fighting for...

blm

(113,101 posts)
8. It's not healthy capitalism, Joe - it's PREDATORY crony capitalism.
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:44 AM
May 2012

Big effin difference.

How about doing an entire week of shows explaining the difference?

cindyperry2010

(846 posts)
9. That is what I have always said
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:44 AM
May 2012

Teddy Kennedy did it to him in the senate campaig just use those ads. Killer stuff go for the jugular we aren't playing nice folks nor should we

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
10. He's also very upset that the super wealthy can't buy
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:45 AM
May 2012

campaigns without scutiny from other campaigns seeking to expose wealthy campaign buyers. The horror!

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
14. I can't believe that piece of dung is still on the air
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:57 AM
May 2012

Turn off the TV, folks. ALL OF IT is propaganda.

Ghost of Tom Joad

(1,356 posts)
15. This is a great ad
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:02 AM
May 2012

Joe doesn't like the truth, wanted to see Rmoney on a yacht instead!!! He was also having a hard time getting any real support for his position. Hope the campaign continues to show the truth about Bain capital and the damage they did.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
22. Did you notice Mika with her head lowered and a smile on her face. Geist and Halperin were no help.
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:24 AM
May 2012

Poor Joe was pretty much on his own and Ratner was getting on his nerves. What a great Monday morning....

avebury

(10,952 posts)
27. I also noticed that Mika was subtly rolling her eyes at one point as
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:33 AM
May 2012

she listened to to Scarborough.

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
73. Rat ner said the ad was unfair, I lost respect for him.
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:02 PM
May 2012

David Faber put him in his place when he said Wall Street insiders which was a reference to RATner, were out for themselves. Bain Capital is a success because, they made mucho money for themselves and stockholders, by looting companies. That is there primary job, not creating jobs.

dash_bannon

(108 posts)
16. I think it's too early...
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:03 AM
May 2012

it's too early to bring out the weapons against Mitt Romney at this point.

It's May. Most people are thinking about the summer, cook-outs, summer movies, and trying to get jobs or about vacations.

Attacking Romney about his labor issues on Labor Day would be more effective.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
35. But, as somebody on Joe Scar said, now is
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:23 AM
May 2012

when the defining memes are being created.

Better to begin defining Rmoney in Dem. terms than to allow him to do it himself.

New and even more hard-hitting "predatory capiltalist" ads will certainly appear during the fall race to the finish line.

lark

(23,160 posts)
58. Americans for Prosperity is hitting Nelson really hard here in FL
Mon May 14, 2012, 01:46 PM
May 2012

I swear, that and a specifically anti-Obama ad are the almost the only commercials showing during prime time for this past week. My mute button is going to be broken from over-use if this crap doesn't slow down soon.

Bring some of that O Super Pac money to FL to fight the early Repug $$.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
60. yes, when I see "americans for prosperity"
Mon May 14, 2012, 01:55 PM
May 2012

knowing who's really funding the ads-I just tell everyone, those aren't really americans. corporate interested greedheads who'd go for hitler himself if it allowed them more piece of the dwindling american pie.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
61. True.
Mon May 14, 2012, 01:59 PM
May 2012

If Rmoney and his hedge fund mafia are allowed to define Obama, Obama will have a hard time winning in this current climate.

Pirate Smile

(27,617 posts)
38. The plan is to define him NOW. Don't let him define himself.
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:28 AM
May 2012

His business experience is supposed to be his strength. The Obama Campaign intends to turn it into his weakness.

Define Romney early and never let him off the mat.

The Bain Vampire Capitalist theme does fit quite well with the Romney as bully boy from last week.

Romney excels at preying on the weak and vulnerable and protecting the wealthy and privileged - along with enforcing conformity to what he finds acceptable.

Some US workers had hair that was "too long" - pensions too big, wages too high, union or worker protections too strong - so Romney and the Bully Boys at Bain Capital just held them down and cut their hair. Now they want everyone to call them heros for it. Not going to happen.

mwb970

(11,367 posts)
47. No. You are suggesting giving Romney an inch.
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:36 AM
May 2012

He'll take a light-year if we do. Hit him early, hard, and often.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
53. Maybe even AFTER Labor Day
Mon May 14, 2012, 12:25 PM
May 2012

Labor Day they will still be partying... then involved getting kids off to school. Then it she should be perfect time.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
17. Uhh, Joey, why doesn't capitalism work for the finance industry?
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:06 AM
May 2012

Riddle me that.

I think we need a message that profit is not an entitlement for any business.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
23. Yeah that's powerful stuff.
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:27 AM
May 2012

I'm sure the Obama campaign could make dozens of these and that's exactly what they should do. Hammer the bastard on his Bain record. He's got some nerve standing up there and talking about how he cares about the unemployed.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
29. Yep, that's the one.
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:49 AM
May 2012

Hell, the Obama campaign doesn't have to PAY to have it shown on the show -- they're doing it for FREE!

When the company did well, Bain made money. Fair enough.

When the company did poorly, or went bankrupt, Bain STILL made money. That's where the dissonance comes in.

When Bain took control, they'd wind up taking out loans to pay dividends to themselves, first and foremost. Then, when the company couldn't deal with the debt load, Bain would just let it go bankrupt. Hey, they got THEIRS.

Romney the Parasite.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
26. If Mitt didn't want ads about how he and Bain destroy jobs, pension and entire industries for a buck
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:30 AM
May 2012

Then maybe he should never have done it?

Did he really think all the millions of people he and Bain impoverished and devastated would never say a word when he ran for political office?

malaise

(269,193 posts)
28. Joe Scum spews the meme for the day
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:41 AM
May 2012

He was pathetic this morning - even supporting J.P. Morgan's madness.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
30. What? Isn't he Proud of Mittens?
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:57 AM
May 2012

Isn't this what they are all about? C'mom, Joe, be loud and be proud!

Atman

(31,464 posts)
44. That was an entire other level of crazy!
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:58 AM
May 2012

"But...but...but...JP Morgan made $39 bil in profits...what's $2 billion? It's inconsequential.

Once again, you fucking idiot, Joe. It has NOTHING to do with whether or not the "loss" was X percent or Y percent...it was about that "teaching moment" you all said the Wall Street meltdown was, in the face of Wall Street lobbyists trying to eviscerate (and succeeding) any reform measures or regulations. So if that was a "teaching moment," what the hell were they taught? Looks like NOTHING...just try to be more secretive.

.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
31. I can't wait til it gets really heated up if this is how they come out swinging.
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:12 AM
May 2012

I didn't think Rmoney could do anything worse than the dog on the roof, but he proved me wrong. Cutting a classmates hair against his will, worse. This, this is so bad that only finding out that Rmoney had actually committed a homicide could top it.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
50. Leading that half-blind professor into a closed door and then giggling about it was disturbing.n/t
Mon May 14, 2012, 11:11 AM
May 2012

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
37. I only caught the end of the program and Joe was
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:24 AM
May 2012

whining then. Wish I had seen the entire program....so glad
the President's re-election team put this ad out there. Up
thread it was mentioned this is too early in the campaign
to do this sort of ad. I say, "No". Go after Romoney everyday
and hard. There's that saying, "Give them an inch and they'll
take a mile"....no inches for Romoney!

riverbendviewgal

(4,254 posts)
43. One of the workers in the ad looks like
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:54 AM
May 2012

Bob Newhart....and everyone loves him in America

what a powerful ad.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
46. That add hits home, man....wow...if you didn't dislike rMOney before that add it might change
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:36 AM
May 2012

...ones mind.

I can see why Joey Scar is whining

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
52. Bob Newhart
Mon May 14, 2012, 12:23 PM
May 2012

Forget Bob Newhart! (well, actually, don't forget him. He's hilarious!)

The men in that ad look like REPUBLICANS. They look like the kind of people who sometime vote against their best interest. They ain't "bleeding heart libruls".

Good work.

tilsammans

(2,549 posts)
51. Very powerful ad!
Mon May 14, 2012, 11:15 AM
May 2012

The Obama campaign needs to keep the ball rolling. I'm sure they could do ad after ad featuring folks whose livelihoods were destroyed by Romney's/Bain's greed.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
66. No transcript, sadly
Mon May 14, 2012, 04:54 PM
May 2012

I want to enjoy his suffering, but not if it means sitting through over 15 minutes of video.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
67. a supporter yelled out "Give 'em Hell, Harry!". Truman replied, "I don't give them Hell. I just tell
Mon May 14, 2012, 05:19 PM
May 2012

the truth about them and they think it's Hell."

Harry S. Truman would approve.

Aviation Pro

(12,191 posts)
68. Here's the deal...
Mon May 14, 2012, 05:47 PM
May 2012

...the President brings the fight to the front, it's why he greenlighted the SEALs. Lurch the Fucking Stiff doesn't have backbone for this fight, which is why this is only the beginning salvo of what will be a landslide victory for the Obama campaign.

The fuckwit richie rich boy is a fucking coward and a walking asshat.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
72. Joe's only attacks?
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:53 PM
May 2012

At least that I saw, his only criticism of the ad was "But that's how capitalism works! Someone's gotta get screwed!" and "Romney didn't do anything illegal!"

He seems to believe that saying "Bain Capital did x, y, and z" is somehow unfair. He also feels sorry for the workers -- not the ones that Romney fired, because, hey, that's just capitalism -- bit that they were "used" by the Obama campaign for cheap political "demagoguery."

His last screw is seriously loose.

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