You are not going to friggin believe this!

[William769]

Far-Right Pundits Call for Taking Down LGBT Pride Flag

Perhaps we should have seen it coming — in the wake of calls for Southern states to stop flying the Confederate battle flag after the mass killing at an African-American church in South Carolina, some right-wingers are urging an end to displays of the LGBT pride flag, which they claim symbolizes bigotry toward Christians.

Never mind that many Christians are accepting of LGBT people or are LGBT themselves, or that no one will be convinced by the far right’s rhetoric regarding the flag — these commentators are taking advantage of the moment to spew their homophobic hatred.

On his Focal Point radio show today, Bryan Fischer shared what Right Wing Watch sarcastically called “his typically well-reasoned and insightful thoughts” on the matter.

“If we are going to remove symbols of oppression from our culture,” he said, “if we come to the point where we say any flag that represents bigotry, any flag that represents hatred, any flag that represents slavery or oppression needs to be removed, then I want to suggest to you that the next flag to go ought to be the rainbow flag of the Gay Reich.”

The “gay lobby” has “a flag just like the Nazis had their flag,” Fischer added, and it represents “slavery and oppression and bigotry and prejudice and bias.”

http://www.advocate.com/politics/2015/06/23/watch-far-right-pundits-call-taking-down-lgbt-pride-flag

[boston bean]

1. Racists calling love racism. Nothing new there. Fuckin sickos.

Idiotic creep racists.

[William769]

14. I could not have said it better.

[pnwmom]

98. Something tells me they won't be happy about this then:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026895780

[greatauntoftriplets]

2. Oh ffs!

[JustAnotherGen]

3. What an ignorant ass wipe!

These people - are hateful.

This black woman - stands with you William.

[William769]

6. Thank you kindly.

[Warpy]

101. And that's on the best day of his life, undoubtedly

You've just got to love these right wing "Christians" who whine about being persecuted whenever they're reminded that the rest of us live here, too, and we all have the same rights under the law as they do. They're just so mind numbingly stupid and lack so much insight and sense of irony that they're hilarious.

This glow-in-the-dark-white old atheist stands with you, too.

[Agschmid]

4. Kick.

Ridiculousness...

[gratuitous]

5. I laugh at their impotent rage and hatred

You are invited to join with me.

[Volaris]

33. I think they all want to be liberals.

They see how we do it (as in, when we decide to push and MEAN IT, it generally gets the attention it deserves from the general population) because we're not idiots over on this side. They see it working ( unlike their contrived little astroturf nonsense) and so they emulate the framework of the argument and try apply it to their own ends. They see us succeeding at hammering round pegs into round holes, and think it will work for their square pegs as well.
Yes, their base will buy it because their base is stupid.
The rest of us just laugh at how angry they get when they don't have any pegs left=)

[BlancheSplanchnik]

46. Good one, nicely put!

[passiveporcupine]

45. I like this response!

[Volaris]

64. I also think one of the reasons they get mad is because while they have 'a base',

They ONLY have astroturf, and have to call it grassroots. They would give their own left nut for a Cruz or a Paul to have what Bernie has at this point, and so if Bernie is the nominee, they will fake the hell out of Populism (legal free weed--for monsanto--bootstraps, and look how we have been oh so repressed by the LIBERALS on Wall Street (so yes of course let's cut YOUR taxes, wink wink)).
Every WORD of it will absolute bullshit, but their idiots will swallow that load like it tastes like fucking raspberry sauce.
mark my words they will...

[GoneOffShore]

7. It's Bryan Fischer.

There will be public shaming and unfortunately he doesn't give a toss.

[sheshe2]

8. WTF!

[William769]

12. I keep telling myself counting down the days, counting down the days.

So we can throw it in their damn faces! Then we'll move on to the next battle.

People like you help take the sting out of this crap a little easier.

[sheshe2]

24. Thanks for that William.

You are right about this, it is crap. They are terrorized and lashing out, 'cause you know what, they are a dying breed. I thank Gawd for that.

[jwirr]

9. There is nothing that is unbelievable lately.

[Baitball Blogger]

10. Even the doorknob is embarrassed for them.

They don't understand the concept of cause and effect.

[misterhighwasted]

11. They want to ban Crayolas? The Rainbow?

Whaaa?




Wadda bunch of whiners, already.

[Quackers]

108. Not at all! They want to ban Skittles!

[misterhighwasted]

109. Ok now they are taking on the Candy Corporation! hhaaaa

Only ones left in their camp will be the KKK & the NRA.
BFF's Forever.

[Skittles]

111. I WILL KICK ANTI-RAINBOW THEME ASS

YES INDEED

[TheCowsCameHome]

13. That's as good as DOA.

They're wasting precious oxygen with that losing idea.

They're always whining about something. They have nothing else.

[William769]

15. True, but when you have lived it your whole life

Ay some point, you just have to say enough is enough.

[niyad]

16. two questions, bribri--what the HELL are you on? and, do you share???

[herding cats]

17. Sadly, I do.

I'm not even surprised by it.

[leftofcool]

18. Why am I not surprised?

Bryan Fischer is an asswipe who represents, well, asswipes.

[riderinthestorm]

19. Are there gay pride flags flying over ANY capital grounds anywhere on a daily basis?

dumbfounded this guy finds any equivalency...

[SusanCalvin]

25. There ya go

Being logical.

[leftofcool]

27. Now that is an idea I might could get behind.

Just think, rainbow colors all over the US.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

56. Seriously, what would be wrong with that? Still wouldn't equate with flying the racist confederate flag.

[Spazito]

20. Geez...

Disgusted but not surprised. A racist homophobe.

[Takket]

21. oh STFU

did anyone ask this scumbag which GOVERNMENT institution is flying the rainbow flag??????????

[Moonwalk]

62. Well, gay cities are flying it, of course....

...You know, like West Hollywood. But even so, I think we should hold off on the comparison of rainbow flags to confederate flags until and unless such a city separates from the U.S. to be their own country, and asserts that the rainbow flag represents a new nation devoted to taking away certain people's right and freedoms while exploiting them for financial gain.

[freshwest]

22. Fraudulent Libertarian Bryan Fischer is still digging a hole for himself straight to hell. n/t

[progressoid]

23. Yeah, sadly, I believe it.

[AuntPatsy]

26. I can believe it, persecution tactics used pay excellent dividends in their chosen umm faiths

[still_one]

28. Bigots won't stop being bigots, and the world will move forward while they stay behind

[LuvNewcastle]

29. Yeah, I always carry a rainbow flag

with me when I go burn a cross in a Christian's yard. I also like to display it so that I can show the world that I believe in gay supremacy.

[Kalidurga]

30. Wholly Carp

dah fawk, was there a time when gay people owned straight people and sold them into slavery separating them from their children, beating them when they slowed down work, not treating them for illness when they were sick, not setting bones that were broken, starving them at times or even most the time, working them literally to death, raping the women even if they were married to someone else and forcing them to have children who they would see mistreated? When was this time. Oh, then to top things off forcing them to fight in their armies to keep their people oppressed. Then flying the flag of oppression over the government buildings that are supposed to serve the needs of all citizens.

[Martin Eden]

31. How many people actually nod their heads in agreement with Bryan Fischer?

If he's being paid to host a show, the number must not be insubstantial.

Absolutely boggles the mind how anyone can be so stupid as to swallow such nonsense.

The symbol for LGBT folks insisting they should be allowed to love each other without being discriminated against is somehow analogous to the symbol for waging war to keep a race of people enslaved?

In essence, by asserting a gay pride flag oppresses Christians Bryan Fischer is asserting that Christians are ignorant bigots.

[Jamastiene]

32. And exactly what government property has LGBT Pride flags hanging

on it? I can't think of any.



Those people are the hatemongers.

[Initech]

34. Hey Bryan Fischer, the floor of a cave called! It wants its batshit back!

[Coventina]

39. LOL! Good one!!

[Initech]

41. I stole it from Bill Maher.

But still it is a good one!

[shenmue]

35. Go f yourself, Bryan Fischer

[pogglethrope]

36. I don't know about anyone else here, but

I have absolutely no use for Christians and their holier-than-thou Bible-based self-righteousness. Who's more intolerant as a class than Christians, especially fundamentalists? While I'm not exactly a bigot (definition: a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own), I certainly don't care for the opinions of many of those who claim to be Christians.

Do many of those who post here seem to be Christians? Or any other religion?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

38. I'm a Pastafarian myself.

[pogglethrope]

42. Good for you.

What day of the week does your denomination hold church services?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

47. That's a bit old school, don't you think?

That's the beauty of the FSM, there is no requirement to go to church, to pray, nor is there original sin, Hell, or the Devil. Plus you can do all the drugs you want!

[pogglethrope]

55. Not so good at recognizing sarcasm, are you?

[graegoyle]

65. Not meaning to offend you, but Pastafarianism, in case you don't know...

And the Flying Spaghetti Monster, are a spoof of religion, in general. That poster is, most likely, on your side. As am I.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

66. You never know. Most people in this country never heard of the FSM or Pastafarianism.

Plus - you didn't use the sarcasm "thingy".

[LondonReign2]

75. You failed to mention the most important benefit: the beer volcano

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

88. I use the Scotch Volcano.

[LanternWaste]

77. Non-biblical based self-righteousness is however, a most noble and wonderful thing....

Non-biblical based self-righteousness is however, a most noble and wonderful thing...

No doubt, those whose self-righteousness is predicated on the secular often fail to see it in themselves too-- which leads me to believe any relevant distinction between the two is alleged at best, more probably fictional.

However, as we do feel compelled to point, blame and pretend an objective sum exists rather than finding solutions, it's most likely merely a moot point rationalized away.

[YOHABLO]

37. Because rainbows, that naturally occur in the sky are a symbol of hatred. Says so in the bible.

.

[silverweb]

40. RWNJs are really good at false equivalencies, aren't they?

[AlbertCat]

69. It's all too complicated for their pointed little heads

Any ex-confederate state can fly a flag to symbolize and remind people of their history and how they got where they are. All 13 states that seceded have their own flag.

NONE of them is the rectangular St Andrews Cross thing most people think of as "the confederate flag" I believe a TN regiment used it.... but otherwise it was invented (from the battle flag, which has several forms..... none of which are that "confederate flag" thing) by the KKK.

Indeed.... if confederate states flew correct flags, someone might actually learn something useful about the very important time in our history.

But they don't.

The rainbow flag has no history or symbolism remotely similar. Nor does...oh.... the Eco flag




Shall we take them down (if you can find one!) because they insult big oil companies????

[silverweb]

86. All too true.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Actually, I'd dearly love to have an eco flag - and always do my best to insult fossil fuel companies.

[Bluenorthwest]

97. The rainbow flag was intentionally adopted to replace the pink triangle symbol which had been the

only actual symbol of political community around to make use of. Goes back to June 1978, the first two hand made by a couple of dozen volunteers for a Pride Parade, three months later Harvey Milk was killed and the banner took hold in the community.

[Cha]

43. I do believe it because nothing is too low for that sick bunch of hate propaganda pushers.

William

[Jack Rabbit]

44. No, I didn't see that coming

Only if I were paying more attention, I might have. But, I am not terribly concerned these day for the right wing's fake outrage over the presumed persecution of groups not being persecuted.

Or is it groups who think they're being persecuted because it is no longer fashionable to persecute somebody they'd like to persecute.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

48. what idiotic fuckwaddery.

I'm glad I'm not one. A fuckwad, I mean. Man, it must suck to be a stupid, hate-bloated fuckwad.

Obviously it doesn't hurt, since that would cause the sufferer to seek help, but.... it must be so...ugly in there.

Yecch.

[AtheistCrusader]

49. Come and take it.

[calimary]

50. Such frickin' INFANTS!!!

Well, then YOU have to give up THIS.

SHEESH. What is this, the battle of the three-year-olds????? This is pre-school shit. HE started it! No SHE did! I can't have this? Well, then YOU can't have THAT! What a bunch of infants.

They really should be ashamed of themselves. But they won't be.

[csziggy]

76. I just wish they would take their balls and go home!

I'm tired of playing with them (the idiots, not their balls - never wanted to play with their balls).

[calimary]

83. Oh no. The unruly infants have to focus on "getting even."

Like the infants they are.

[barbtries]

51. it's so absurd.

almost pathetic but no...contemptible. these are contemptible people.

[Half-Century Man]

52. This one is a gold medalist in mental gymnastics.

Logical pulpit parkour punditry.

Are fundies so seeped in their dogma of wrongfully oppressed moral supermen, that they say the most insane, hurtful, and vile projection they can in hopes of getting a violent response form anybody, in order to prove their oppression?

[Starry Messenger]

53. Ngh!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

54. They're children....

"If we have to take down one of our flags you have to take down one of yours!!! It's not fair!!!! WAAAAAAAHH!!!!"

[WheelWalker]

57. I fart in their general direction...

[Gregorian]

58. Pay no attention to the throwers of tantrums.

[hollysmom]

59. here's the thin,g for people my age, I assume it is because

we did not have sesame street and never learned what 3 things are the same and which one is different.
I find that conservatives are woefully unable to see what is comparable,like the guy on TV today who said that Hillary is like Nixon because of scandals, yes hers a little ones - but her husband had affairs? Pat Nixon had affairs? the comparisons are just crazy.

[RiffRandell]

60. We should call for his resignation!

You're good at that! Do it!

[Behind the Aegis]

61. Oh, I believe it.

Yet one more reminder for us not to get too comfortable.

[davidpdx]

63. No, sadly I believe it

There are some sick sick people in our country.

[NCTraveler]

67. I am so sorry at all of the hate being throw out at some of the best this country has to offer.

What really sucks even more is that these people have children that are being taught this hate. A new generation. Progress is being made and many of their children will grow up with more common sense than their parents. Some will hold onto and embrace the hate.

William, I have nothing but hugs for you and complete disdain for these cold and callous people. I'm sorry I had to read this today. I'm sorry you had to read this today. I'm sorry we all had to read this today. I'm just tired of the hate. It really makes no sense at all. From a religious or societal standpoint.

[AlbertCat]

68. which they claim symbolizes bigotry toward Christians.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


It symbolizes a VICTORY over the bigotry OF Christians.

[Indepatriot]

70. Next the Gay Stormtroopers will be redecorating State Houses and

forcing lawmakers to submit to makeovers...Mien Fabulous Kampf....

[ismnotwasm]

71. Fucking Creeps

The have brain melt from mental contortions.

[Gormy Cuss]

72. We're going to hear a lot of last, desperate pleas like this

because change is hard on closed minds.

[Bradical79]

73. You're wrong!

I totally believe it We have a rather large and noisy segment of Christianity in America whose prejudices and hatred have overwhelmed whatever capability for rational thought these people had to begin with.

[LondonReign2]

74. When some gay men sporting raindow flag emblems

attack another man because they don't like the fact that he is Christian so they drag him behind their pick up truck to his death-- THEN they will maybe begin to have the slightest bit of a leg to stand on.

Stupid fucking conservative hate mongers.

[HassleCat]

78. Those darn gay Nazis!

I guess the notion of irony is completely lost on someone who would compare gay people to Nazis.

[Glassunion]

79. He should come visit one of our little towns here along the Delaware River...

He'd take an atomic doodie at the sight...

[Prism]

80. Bryan Fischer says some asshole thing?

Strangely, I believe this.

A headline reading, "Brian Fischer uses logic, displays kindness" would be met with immediate skepticism, however.

[MisterP]

81. this is their reading material BTW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pink_Swastika

[Donald Ian Rankin]

82. What do you expect from a man who can't even spell "Brian Fisher" right? N.T.

[lark]

84. Don't you just love how it's always just about them!

They show such arrogant, narcissitic, stupidity. People don't fly LGBT or rainbow flags to "diss" anyone or anything, they fly them in support of their own beliefs. Guys and guys and women and women aren't getting married to spite the teahadist, they are in love and want to officially join together. It's like that blather that gay marriage will lead to fewer straight marriages, as if! There might be a few fake marriages that don't happen, but that's probably a good thing. My son marrying his partner of 8 years certainly doesn't diminish my 34 year marriage with my husband.

[Panich52]

85. Matter and anti-natter destroy one another. Makes perfect sense.

Because a symbol of denial of rights & equality is being villified, of course one that's stands for rights and equality should also be eliminated.

We've come to expect 'anti-logic' of that sort from the likes of fake-fired-from-hate-group Fischer. I suspect he's quite welcome at Westboro's bigot fests, too.

[TlalocW]

87. The government doesn't normally fly flags of nations that "lost" to us in one form or another

We don't put the Mexican, Spanish, French, English, etc. flag up. The Confederacy was essentially another country that USA beat so while citizens can display whatever flag they want to, the government shouldn't... Especially since it was put up in 1962 as a symbol of resistance to desegregation/civil rights.

We never fought the non-existent nation of, "Gaylandia," so the rainbow flag point makes no sense.

TlalocW

[FreedomRain]

89. They love to play that victim card don't they

nt

[awoke_in_2003]

90. 40% of our country is batshit crazy

One flag is flown by people who want the right to be hateful bigots, and the other is flown by people who want the same rights the rest of us enjoy.

[LeftishBrit]

91. Disgusting and ridiculous. Haters have to hate, I suppose.

[Zambero]

92. Condoning slavery vs. promoting equallity

The two messages conveyed are direct opposites of one another. This is one of the worst attempts ever at false equivalency.

[PeaceNikki]

93. The "Gay Reich"??

Wtf?

[B Calm]

94. I have never seen gays enslave Christians. .

[PatrynXX]

95. that would be called getting out the new book

and going up to them and point where Jesus is against gays.? If they can't they have no grounds

[KamaAina]

96. Because so many heteros have been lynched under it.

[47of74]

99. Ugh.

Just fucking ugh. I wish Fisher would go away.

[Jeb Bartlet]

100. Typical stupid comments

coming from typically stupid right wing idiots. Yes lets equate a flag that represents equal treatment of lgbt persons with the Nazi flag because you are butt hurt that your racist confederate flag purposely flown to unit the southern racist slave states flag is finally being shown for what it is. We should be hunting down these racist right wing terrorists and locking them up.

[riversedge]

102. the pride flag does not hang from a pole at state houses. what an idiot!

[HoosierCowboy]

103. Except

the Rainbow Flag isn't officially sanctioned. The Stars and Bars are...

[edhopper]

104. I see no difference between this

and posters here who say because there are monument to Columbus or US Grant the ones to Lee or Davis should not be questioned.

[uppityperson]

105. Do I understand this correctly? Openness and tolerance equal bigotry and hatred?

Jesus, having out with a group of mostly men preaching and teaching tolerance and love would view seeking the same as.... bad?

[SCantiGOP]

106. I love his comments

Every time some bigoted jackass makes a statement like this it turns more people into voters, and into liberal voters. The only people who agree with bullshit like this are going to vote against us till they die anyway.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

107. I just saw a guy in a clip equate this with taking the cross off of MLK's church....

http://videos.al.com/al/2015/06/mike_williams_and_jamel_brown.html

[King_Klonopin]

110. On the route to work, every day I see the rainbow flag displayed at 2 churches.

Those churches have not renounced God or religion, as far as I can tell.

The rainbow flag is not the symbol of an antichrist. It's not intended to be
anti-church, anti-religion, or "anti" anything. Only a right-winger frames his
belief system in terms of the things and the people which he is against.

The flags that I see are at churches in Massachusetts, so it's not such a bold
move here. I believe they are an Episcopal and a Unitarian church.

Many hate-filled assholes claim to be religious or Christian. That does not make
ALL believers of God, no matter their denomination, people to be loathed or brow-
beaten into submission. Having faith in a God is not the problem; evil people who
twist that faith and pervert it for their own personal gain (antichrists) are the
problem. Bryan seems like a perfect example.

I really really wish I never heard of Bryan Fischer.