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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 02:20 AM

1monster (11,012 posts)

The Civil War ENDED 150 years, two months, and a couple of

weeks ago! Why are DUers still fighting it? No one living today was alive during that war. There is no way we can change what happened in the past. We can only try to make things better now and in the future.

And we are not going to do that by continuing the sectionalism that helped tear this country apart 154 years ago. It certainly is not going to foster the good will that is needed for all of us to work together to overcome the hurdles that still stand in the way of a equal and just society.

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The Civil War ENDED 150 years, two months, and a couple of (Original post)	1monster	Jun 2015	OP
the South lost and they need to GET THE FUCK OVER IT	Skittles	Jun 2015	#1
This message was self-deleted by its author	1monster	Jun 2015	#2
It's only a bunch of ignorant assholes...	HooptieWagon	Jun 2015	#3
I've lived in the south a long tme	Skittles	Jun 2015	#4
What "Sea of Red"?	kentauros	Jun 2015	#5
think congress	Skittles	Jun 2015	#7
However, "lacking support" is not the same thing as voting for or against.	kentauros	Jun 2015	#8
well just based on my own observations living both north and south	Skittles	Jun 2015	#9
You do know that our biggest problem (voting-wise) isn't simply the repubs in office?	kentauros	Jun 2015	#12
I know all about gerry-mandering and suppression of votes and stolen elections	Skittles	Jun 2015	#15
Okay, good :)	kentauros	Jun 2015	#16
And that isn't limited to the South	pinboy3niner	Jun 2015	#17
Somehow I don't see us coming together with white supremacists	pinboy3niner	Jun 2015	#6
And yet, some folks here ARE fighting us.	kentauros	Jun 2015	#10
like Texas needs their ass kicked	Skittles	Jun 2015	#11
Not as a whole state, no.	kentauros	Jun 2015	#13
I've been kicking Texas repuke ass for decades	Skittles	Jun 2015	#14

Response to 1monster (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2015, 02:27 AM

Skittles (143,881 posts)

1. the South lost and they need to GET THE FUCK OVER IT

we are TIRED of them embarrassing America - ENOUGH ALREADY

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 03:55 AM

HooptieWagon (17,064 posts)

3. It's only a bunch of ignorant assholes...

...they don't represent the rest of us, anymore than Michele Bachmann represents you.

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 03:56 AM

Skittles (143,881 posts)

4. I've lived in the south a long tme

there's plenty of them - that sea of red stands for something

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 04:00 AM

kentauros (29,414 posts)

5. What "Sea of Red"?

I see pink, and I see purple, as well as some isolated islands of red, but not a sea, not an ocean, and not even a Gulf

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 04:38 AM

Skittles (143,881 posts)

7. think congress

SOMEONE is voting repuke

here's a map showing where Obama lacked support, although it is orange

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:09 AM

kentauros (29,414 posts)

8. However, "lacking support" is not the same thing as voting for or against.

That's just one part of the whole. The map I posted was based on population densities per county. That's why so many of them are not deep red.

So again, no "sea" of red

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:15 AM

Skittles (143,881 posts)

9. well just based on my own observations living both north and south

the south wins with repuke bullshit, hands down

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:19 AM

kentauros (29,414 posts)

12. You do know that our biggest problem (voting-wise) isn't simply the repubs in office?

I'd say it's the damage they did in gerrymandering the voting districts to ensure they remained in office and added to their rolls. As I understand the laws/rules surrounding all of that, we've still got to wait until the next census before we can possibly change it, too.

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:24 AM

Skittles (143,881 posts)

15. I know all about gerry-mandering and suppression of votes and stolen elections

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:27 AM

kentauros (29,414 posts)

16. Okay, good :)

Because while we can fight (and sometimes win) against them while in office, our power remains with what's been done to those districts. Get them changed to something that's fair, and we stand a much better chance of winning far more elections in the future.

Maybe then we can find some state money to start building mental institutions again

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:33 AM

pinboy3niner (53,339 posts)

17. And that isn't limited to the South

It also helps to remember that good things also happen in the South, and that SPLC and the Civil Right Memorial are in...Montgomery, Alabama...

The Civil Rights Memorial, designed by Maya Lin, was dedicated on November 11, 1989.
http://www.splcenter.org/civil-rights-memorial

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Response to 1monster (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2015, 04:12 AM

pinboy3niner (53,339 posts)

6. Somehow I don't see us coming together with white supremacists

Much of the fighting is about opposing historical revisionism and the use of the old war emblems to promote racism.

Ken Burns: Confederate flag isn't about heritage. It's about resistance to civil rights.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6903721

White supremacist calls Charleston 'a preview of coming attractions'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026918249

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:15 AM

kentauros (29,414 posts)

10. And yet, some folks here ARE fighting us.

How exactly am I supposed to interpret this post any other way?

Really, that's the kind of attitude the OP (and the rest of us that support it) are talking about. And DU needs to discard that kind of sentiment.

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:16 AM

Skittles (143,881 posts)

11. like Texas needs their ass kicked

WHICH THEY DO

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:20 AM

kentauros (29,414 posts)

13. Not as a whole state, no.

But republicans do, so get cracking and kicking Skittles!

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Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:23 AM

Skittles (143,881 posts)

14. I've been kicking Texas repuke ass for decades

Texas still deserves their reputation but we are working on it

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