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Walmart sued for 'all black people must leave' prank
A black man is suing Walmart for $1 million in damages, claiming he suffered emotional distress while he was shopping at a store in Washington Township, N.J. On March 14, 2010, a voice came over the PA system announcing: "Attention Walmart customers: All black people leave the store now." A manager quickly took control of the microphone and a 16-year-old boy was later arrested for the prank. Donnell Battie's lawyers claim the megastore was negligent and reckless in allowing the incident to occur, and that he suffered from a number of psychological disorders as a result.
http://now.msn.com/now/0516-walmart-black-announcement.aspx
How can Wal-Mart be responsible for something a customer does in the store?
Meiko
(1,076 posts)have controlled the access to their PA system better. It's hard to believe that they don't have any better security than to allow anyone to make announcements unchecked. What if this kid would have yelled "fire" and panicked everyone, possibly causing injuries to someone. This is Walmart's fault.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)They have codes they are supposed to enter. The questions is how did the kid get on the PA.
Forward2012
(14 posts)I worked at Sams Club (which is the country club of Walmarts). We had the same PA system. Basically you pick up one of the phones and hit the 'loudspeaker' button. No codes needed. Im not sure if other stores have a code-system or if there is a company wide standard for phone/PA systems. It could happen though.
Maine-ah
(9,902 posts)this is back in 1992-1995, Maine and Florida, we had codes on the phones. The codes were the same for all the stores. Not that hard to figure out, and many of the phones had the instructions on them for different extensions, and for the intercom system. All these years later, the code is still the same at the Maine store I worked at. I've been tempted many many times.....
randome
(34,845 posts)"For one hour only, everything is FREE!!!"
Something like that?
Ian David
(69,059 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)But it is not a million dollar fault. And 'faults' like this can be corrected. That's the only reasonable outcome.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Walmart should be able to control their assets. I don't think it's a million dollar screw up but it needs to be looked at.
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)Cave_Johnson
(137 posts)A reasonableness standard applies...
The guy who is suing is a scumbag looking for a payout.
Logical
(22,457 posts)lame54
(35,290 posts)fuck walmart - let them be the victim for a change
Logical
(22,457 posts)lame54
(35,290 posts)i don't care if it's walmarts fault
I wouldn't lift a finger to defend those scum-bags - and that includes writing an OP
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Wrong perhaps, but very clear.
Just because a large corporation has no heart, even though they have been declared a person, that does not make them responsible for the actions of mindless person, who is not associated with the company.
lame54
(35,290 posts)it is not my place to publicly defend them
their team of lawyers will probably flick him off like a flea
but - this is their fight - and if they lose it - fuck 'em
with all the people they screw on a daily basis they don't deserve the defense of anybody here
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)And this is a good thing.
lame54
(35,290 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)And all this time I've been told reflexive, uncritical, bumper-sticker argumentation was the exclusive province of conservatives.
lame54
(35,290 posts)whatever the hell it means
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Speaking against a perversion of justice is not defending Wal-Mart, it's speaking out against a perversion of justice.
lame54
(35,290 posts)the defendant is walmart
therefore:
you are standing up for walmart
i agree that you are speaking against what you see as a perversion of justice
but there is no way you can subtract walmart from this equation
there is injustice all around us - we can't possibly fight it all
we have to pick our battles
there is no way I'm picking this one
qazplm
(3,626 posts)its about rule of law and the right result, not who the individual defendant is.
Bake
(21,977 posts)That's what the "rule of law" is all about. Funny, but it seems like it's always the Pukes who cry about the "rule of law."
So let it play out. That's what the rule of law is all about.
Bake
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)Someone once said something mean to me here, and it caused me much "emotional distress," leading to numerous "psychological disorders" and uh... the heartbreak of psoriasis, too. (Yeah, that's the ticket.) Therefore, I'm suing everyone here for a zillion dollars for letting it happen.
randome
(34,845 posts)So we're even.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)Kaleva
(36,298 posts)Bake
(21,977 posts)Buns of fire, indeed!
Preparation H, anyone?
Bake
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)'Attention WalMart Shoppers' Disorder.
LeftinOH
(5,354 posts)takes someone with enough nerve to use it. Wal-Mart is not at fault.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)1. The voice on the PA should have been easily recognizable as a 16-year-old
2. Like 99 percent of 16-year-olds, I don't think he'd even be able to finish the 'announcement' without snickering...
Amaril
(1,267 posts)Walmart will undoubtedly pay the guy -- and his attorney -- something (not a million or even close to a million), because it will cost them far less to make a "nuisance" settlement than to defend it thru trial.
Squeaky wheel.........grease.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)This isn't Wal-Mart's fault.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)the kid doesn't. First rule in hiring a lawsuit lawyer is find one that will go after the cash.
Not only that there's a better chance that a big company will settle before it's realized how idiotic your lawsuit actually is.
lynne
(3,118 posts)- We would feel differently about this case if this occurred at a small mom and pop shop. To want to make Walmart liable and pay for something that was not their fault isn't justice - it's vigilantism.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and I am (1) someone who doesn't make that accusation lightly; and (2) a plaintiffs' attorney.
The standards for infliction of emotional distress are quite high and usually involve things like lying, libel, slander and the like. If I were a judge I would bounce this claim, should it be filed, on Rule 12 grounds - failure to state a claim upon which relief may be granted, and then sanction the hell out of any lawyer dumb enough to bring such a claim. Wal-Mart isn't responsible for the conduct of the public unless it involves something vastly more egregious than this. "Psychological disorders" my ass.
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)Make the kid do a million hours community service in a local soup kitchen and attend ethnic sensitivity training.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)How about you get to lash the kid X amount of times. Until you feel better.
I think that's a fair solution.
-..__...
(7,776 posts)No wonder people are angered and frustrated by the current legal system.
Gimme a break.
I agree "fuck WalMart"...fuck WalMart if they cave in and settle out of court and pay out even one cent.
jp11
(2,104 posts)to shop. This includes having security and employees that aren't mentally unbalanced/dangerous/etc. They are far more limited on their control of other customers but have to have SOME methods to prevent the customers from attacking each other.
As far as this incident walmart is only to blame in so far as they should have had better control of the PA system assuming one of the employees hadn't left it unsecured/easily accessed by anyone.
Now this person is not entitled to 1 million dollars for that outburst of a stupid kid. It would have been nearly identical had the kid brought in a megaphone and said the same thing, or had a personal amplified, or worse if he had said something more offensive and racist. Is Walmart to blame then, when he isn't using their property/equipment no they are not. They should react when employees are aware or informed of that kind of behavior to eject the customer or call the police.
I don't know if the customer suing had issues in another country or was the victim of racial attacks as those are pretty much the only ways I can see claiming emotional distress to the tune of $1 million dollars.