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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThat sound you heard may have been Trump's campaign exploding.
@karentravers:
Trump just now on John McCain: "He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."
Boom goes the dynamite.
Don't like McCain but he was badly hurt and tortured.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)They don't like McCain either. Trump will go up in the republican polls.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)PatrickforO
(14,571 posts)not conservative enough?
JCMach1
(27,556 posts)They won't give a flip...
ToxMarz
(2,166 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,796 posts)McCain is not beloved. Belief in the meme that he was captured and therefore he's a failure is not uncommon, even is it is not widely said in public. Further, he is not seen by many as being sufficiently conservative for the GOP base.
I think Trump said this to ignite another media firestorm and feeding frenzy. Like a roaring fire, he sucks all the air out of the room. I think that's his plan. That's how he keeps on keeping on.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)that McCain suffered for his country. In addition to hitting McCain, it hits ANY soldier who was captured -- in any war.
Not to mention, it is in contrast to the wealthy heir of a NYC real estate fortune who got a series of deferments. Yes, I know this sounds like Bush, but he didn't directly call a whole group of veterans "not heroes".
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...have not served would be well advised to keep their mouths shut about those who have, especially if they avoided serving by deferments.
(4 yrs active duty in AF nurse corps, and 8 yrs in the reserves. Marrried to AF Academy grad who served a full 20 yr career as a pilot. Neither of us are McCain admirers.)
GP6971
(31,144 posts)Trump doesn't care what he says no matter how offensive. A diplomat he isn't.
HFRN
(1,469 posts)and that's the simplest argument against him
daleanime
(17,796 posts)it will take a tousand of these to kill his campaign.
Although his campaign is going to die, it's just a question of when.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)One of my favorite movies.
Gman
(24,780 posts)And Trump ignores him. He won't let Perry get unearned press at his expense.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)And what do these efforts consist of?
(Please enlighten us who have heard less than you. Thanks in advance.)
onecaliberal
(32,850 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Media will squawk, but I don't think Trump gives a shit.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Right.
kartski
(14 posts)so they sent him to the New York Military Academy until he Graduated to the Deferment Division.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)phantom power
(25,966 posts)malaise
(268,967 posts)I'm lovin' this cannibalism. Please proceed ReTHUGs
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)He said something like I love pows
George II
(67,782 posts)HE SAID IT!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2015/07/18/texas-gov-rick-perry-on-donald-trumps-pow-commen/
hatrack
(59,584 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Which camp will Fox hurl monkey feces at is what inquiring human minds want to know?
Will Trump pack up his circus act and slink away to try to salvage his ruined 2% interest business good will and tend to his many lawsuits both filed, and to be defended?
When are the full FEC detailed financials to be released? Withdraw a minute before midnight?
Or will The Ego attempt to soothe the wounds within attempt at forming an American hybrid version of a European new-Nazi racist party?
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Two words: Sarah Palin
jalan48
(13,863 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....that comment is going to hurt Mr. Chump (an Imus/Bernard McGuirk moniker) big time.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Being a good Naval aviator is not.
McCain was not a good pilot or scholar.
Being famous for being a POW is not something to build a career on.
Retire John. Your mission is over.
on you.
This Marine vet does not like the way McCain has screwed my fellow vets!
ann---
(1,933 posts)who disparages ALL those vets who were captured and
thinks The Donald shouldn't like them. He said he likes
those who were NOT captured.
Again - shame on you.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Should we resurrect the Purple Heart bandaids, too?
If you want to criticize McCain, fine. But do it without minimizing the sacrifice of POWs.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Getting shipped off to a war is quite simple.
Getting hit with mortar fire ain't that hard as well.
Getting tossed into a POW camp after your entire platoon was killed was a walk in the park.
Shit the way you talk my buddy Steve took the easiest road in Vietnam. I should probably rethink my opinion of him.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,181 posts)After Trump's prior attacks on Bush's wife and her ethnicity.
Do you have any idea how hard that is, to make me feel sorry for John McCain and especially Jeb Bush? You have to be one special type of asshole to do that.
NJCher
(35,661 posts)the circumstances McCain was in were violent and unpredictable. Who can say what a wise choice is in such a situation?
Trump is so appalling to say this. He is implying it was McCain's on-the-spot decision that got him captured! This could have happened to anyone in such a situation.
The only kind of person it wouldn't happen to is someone who refused to be in those circumstances. So that is what Trump is saying? You're a fool to be a soldier?
Wow, just wow. I really cannot believe this @$#@ a$$hole.
Cher
ann---
(1,933 posts)he will disappear soon.
brooklynite
(94,517 posts)barbtries
(28,789 posts)must be a nightmare to be near.
ann---
(1,933 posts)Can't imagine his wife - or ANY woman - sleeping
with him. Yuck Yuck Yuck
He's ugly inside and out especially with that puckered
lips look. What's that all about?
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...bedhead version of that comb over -
Matrosov
(1,098 posts)Ideally, when Trump finally goes go off, he'll take a large part of the GOP with him. It's still too early for that, however.
MattP
(3,304 posts)En Garde
(94 posts)I am having too much fun rubbernecking the train wreck that is the Republican POTUS race.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)That statement, if true, is indefensible and abhorrent.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)The rabid racist fucks that are eating up Trump's spiel hate McCain anyway.
democrank
(11,094 posts)John McCain served his country and suffered greatly for it. Trump, like Cheney, got several deferments.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)get rid of Jeb AND Hilary we are all going to be in the EXACT SAME PLACE WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW. WHY DON'T PEOPLE WAKE UP.....????????????????????????????????????????????????
If CHANGE doe NOT happen...neither will our illegal congress.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am ashamed of our country letting these crooks run it.....High time people GOT MAD...and had some guts to say things Trump is saying AND THINGS THAT ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE THINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)However, Selective Service records reveal that Trump, the fortunate son of a multimillionaire real estate baron, took repeated steps to avoid serving in Vietnam.
By the time his number (356) was drawn during the December 1, 1969 draft lottery, Trump had already received four student deferments and a medical deferment, according to military records on file with the National Archives and Records Administration. An extract of Trumps Selective Classification record, seen here, was provided in response to a TSG records request.
In fact, the December 1969 draft lottery occurred about 18 months after Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania, where he studied business at the Wharton School. So, while claiming that he would never forget being at Wharton watching the draft numbers being drawn, the 64-year-old Trump seems to have misremembered, as candidates are fond of saying.
Trump obtained his first two Class 2-S student deferments in June 1964 and December 1965, when he was student at Fordham University in the Bronx. He was briefly reclassified as 1-Aor available for military servicein late-November 1966, but that classification was switched back to 2-S three weeks later.
See the rest of his glorious military record here: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/44826_Donald_Trump-_The_Most_Militaristic_Person_in_the_Room_Avoided_Military_Service_Himself
onecent
(6,096 posts)of the 10 last presidents and see where they stand.
Ha thats a laugh.
Bush was a failure, Clinton was in school
Reagan movie star WHAT EVER...
and none of their sons or daughters EXCEPT Biden ever went to war
Awww...so it was really terrible that Trump obtained a defermenets......I am so ashamed of him.
ha what a joke.
I don't know one congressmen that didn't want to send some poor dude from Arkansas or Georgia...get real
Warpy
(111,254 posts)The Angry White Man's Angry White Man has just stepped in it, since he's going to piss off everybody who served in the military, peacetime or wartime.
Expect to see him called a candy assed rich boy who doesn't know what he's talking about very soon, whether or not they've had any use for McCain.
I think your reaction will be typical. Somebody needs to cork him quickly if they want him to last more than another week as the Angry White Man's standard bearer.
doc03
(35,328 posts)reasonable sometimes.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)installed, and die immediately -- leaving us with Pres. Sarah Palin. Big Fail.
olddots
(10,237 posts)It isn't out of the realm of possability .
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)For fuck's sake.
I'm sure Trump- had he not avoided the war entirely- would have held off the North Vietnamese with his mighty combover.
What an idiotic thing for trump to say.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)bankrupted that bridge out of existence.