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SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
Thu May 17, 2012, 10:10 PM May 2012

It all boils down to : Do we take care of them or do we just kill them?

Inside EVERY society you will find:

people who seem to enjoy work, and who willingly look for more to do as they finish tasks

people who work because they fear reprisal if they do not, and who do as little as possible

people who seem capable, but whose personal reasons prevent them from doing much work

young who cannot work (and should not be expected to)

very old who cannot work (and should not be expected to)

handicapped who cannot do much or any work

Regardless of the category, these people ARE in the society. They all have the same basic needs...food.... shelter.... water.... companionship... education...health care... a decent life

We ALL need to realize that these people, in varying percentages, have always been with us, and always will be.

The only variable is in how we "deal" with them.

We can grow up, and figure out that "some" people will need assistance. and yes, occasionally a person/ people "might" take more than we think they should, or may be totally "undeserving" of any help.


Or we accept the fact that we (as a society) have no use for these people, and we might as well "get rid of 'them' altogether." Some might say we are already wandering down that path to some degree. We lock up millions of people who turned to crime. We warehouse old sick people in places we would never want to be.. We accept the malnourishment of poor children we will never meet. We under educate millions of children.

We have the "don't-give-a-crap" part down pat.. Now we are just dithering over how it will play out.

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It all boils down to : Do we take care of them or do we just kill them? (Original Post) SoCalDem May 2012 OP
Exactly right KT2000 May 2012 #1
This is exactly what I think scorpiogirl May 2012 #2
You left out those who never work TexasProgresive May 2012 #3
My favorite part of this Repug meme . . . Brigid May 2012 #4
Almost every repub I've met EC May 2012 #5
Word! Selfish, jealous, small-minded--just some of the qualifiers Surya Gayatri May 2012 #7
Excellent one page exposition of the yawning existential Surya Gayatri May 2012 #6
We have never really taken FDR's Four Freedoms speech to heart GoneOffShore May 2012 #8
It just breaks my heart.. ananda May 2012 #9
There ways to get rid of 'them' & then there ways xchrom May 2012 #10
Republicans are the best practitioners of Darwinism on the planet. Skidmore May 2012 #11
Work will set you free Cerridwen May 2012 #12

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
1. Exactly right
Thu May 17, 2012, 10:17 PM
May 2012

and how are the R's getting away with their self-righteousness when they are really supporting the deaths of so many with their policies. I have decided to insist, in any argument I have with one of them, that they take responsibility for their actions and own the consequences of their political efforts.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
3. You left out those who never work
Thu May 17, 2012, 10:27 PM
May 2012

and yet manage to suck huge (millions, billions) of dollars from the rest of us. I believe they are the .25%

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
4. My favorite part of this Repug meme . . .
Thu May 17, 2012, 10:42 PM
May 2012

Is the implication that caring for "the least among us" is what has brought us to the sorry state in which we find ourselves these days. That was caused by 30 years of Republican policies, plain and simple.

EC

(12,287 posts)
5. Almost every repub I've met
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:35 PM
May 2012

that hated any program that helped anyone, invariably had applied to some program and was refused because they weren't poor enough. So they were complaining that "those people" (they always say those people) got something they couldn't. What really makes this argument stupid is that they are in the party that insists on keeping the incomes really low for qualification...they would prefer the person applying for any help be totally broke and homeless...unless they need the help then they complain that they'd have to be broke and homeless to get any help.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. Excellent one page exposition of the yawning existential
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:48 AM
May 2012

gap between RW and progressive world views...

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
8. We have never really taken FDR's Four Freedoms speech to heart
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:06 AM
May 2012

Freedom of speech and expression
Freedom of worship
Freedom from want
Freedom from fear

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
10. There ways to get rid of 'them' & then there ways
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:19 AM
May 2012

To get rid of 'them'.

I find it hard to deny we are getting rid of 'them'.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
11. Republicans are the best practitioners of Darwinism on the planet.
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:25 AM
May 2012

They have taken "survival of the fittest" to the nth degree.

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