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ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:15 AM May 2012

Jasmine Thar Case Draws Comparisons to Trayvon Martin; Why Hasn’t Her Killer Been Charged?

http://www.blackyouthproject.com/2012/05/16-year-old-jasmine-thar-shot-and-killed-gunman-has-not-been-charged/

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Last December, 16 year-old Jasmine Thar was visiting family in North Carolina when a single bullet struck her, as well as her aunt and cousin. While the other two women survived, Jasmine died from her injuries.

The shooter, James Anthony Blackwell, lived across the street. He claimed his 700 model Remington rifle went off by accident. The local police believed him, and Blackwell was released without any charges being filed against him.

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Thar’s family is outraged that Blackwell has not been charged. They point to the implausibility of a single bullet, fired by accident, going through a window and hitting three different people; as well as the fact that Blackwell, a white man, had confederate flags and Nazi readings and memorabilia in his bedroom, as proof that there might have been a far more sinister motive behind the shooting.

According to Forbes Magazine, the FBI is now looking into the case.

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*It is open season on America's black youth... and a lot of people seem okay with that.
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Jasmine Thar Case Draws Comparisons to Trayvon Martin; Why Hasn’t Her Killer Been Charged? (Original Post) ScreamingMeemie May 2012 OP
Not only this JustAnotherGen May 2012 #1
And how many times, when cleaning a gun or moving a gun does one point it out towards a window? ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #7
apparently it's still ok to murder brown people in the US bowens43 May 2012 #2
Mix it with hate and it is a lethal combination. ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #8
Isn't "went off by accident" an admission of negligience? Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #3
I would have thought so. ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #4
If he knew that then that just doubles down on his negligience Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #9
Agreed. ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #11
Last I heard.. sendero May 2012 #19
K&R... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #5
Three times I have posted about this here. The first was a petition drive ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #6
K&R for increased visibility - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #10
I'd venture to say that her being female has a lot to do with it. BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #12
All three victims were FEMALE. FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #13
It seems to me that if nothing else he should have been charged with involuntary manslaughter, Uncle Joe May 2012 #14
The Remington 700 has a long history Meiko May 2012 #15
And this brownshirt KNEW it DiverDave May 2012 #17
I have to agree with you Meiko May 2012 #18
"open season on America's black youth" hfojvt May 2012 #16
Does everyone realize now madokie May 2012 #20
Maybe the bullet just wanted to talk to those three ladies. Nine May 2012 #21
It's always been open season. Media just moves faster now. n/t vaberella May 2012 #22
It won't be long before someone comes out to say he's the victim lunatica May 2012 #23
So who is doing most of the killing? nt hack89 May 2012 #24
It appears Mr. James Anthony Blackwell is, unless, in the FBI investigation, it comes out that ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #25
I was referring to your comment about it being open season on America's black youth. hack89 May 2012 #26

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
1. Not only this
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:20 AM
May 2012
It is open season on America's black youth... and a lot of people seem okay with that.



But as well - someone is going to come along any minute now and say Jasmine really shouldn't have been on the street in the first place. Then another one will come along and say - well as a gun owner he had a right to have three accidental gun shots go off. Then they'll try to explain how this magic bullet worked.

I'm a gun owner. I have NEVER had my gun go off accidently and have one bullet strike three different people. Anyone who tries to tell me that it IS possible a god damned liar. They lie to themselves, they lie to me, they lie to all of us.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
7. And how many times, when cleaning a gun or moving a gun does one point it out towards a window?
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:47 AM
May 2012

To me, that is negligence at the very least. MrG was a gun owner as well. He never had a gun go off by accident either.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
2. apparently it's still ok to murder brown people in the US
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:23 AM
May 2012

but make no mistake...the underlying issue is easy access to weapons and ammunition.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
8. Mix it with hate and it is a lethal combination.
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:48 AM
May 2012

If Remington is looking into faulty gunsmithing, those rifles should be publicly recalled.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. Isn't "went off by accident" an admission of negligience?
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:22 AM
May 2012

The law can't judge him for being a Nazi asshole but it can judge him for allowing a firearm to be loaded and discharging resulting in serious injury and death. Those sorts of charges are filed against people who accidently back-over their own children trying to drive to work.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
4. I would have thought so.
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:30 AM
May 2012

And, in my opinion, from what's been released, the perp (because he is a perp) is using the fact that Remington has had issues with this type of rifle as his defense. So a rifle automatically went off, shoulder high, through a window, across the street and struck three people.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
9. If he knew that then that just doubles down on his negligience
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:53 AM
May 2012

You can't argue improbabilty or speculation in court. You have to have evidence of what did happen.

What did happen was he had a weapon he knew was unsafe and he did not have it properly maintained, unloaded or stored. It's like having a dog you know is prone to bite and then leaving it unchained in an unfenced yard. He knew and did nothing. That's proveable because he admitted as much.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
11. Agreed.
Fri May 18, 2012, 12:10 PM
May 2012

And I would not leave my dog, not a known biter, out in the yard anyway because you just never know.

My husband used to tell the children (he collected WWII rifles), "Always assume a gun is loaded and you will never get into trouble".

Not to assume that is negligent.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
19. Last I heard..
Sat May 19, 2012, 07:35 AM
May 2012

.. that is manslaughter at the very least. These PDs are getting crazy. Do they think they can just get away with this shit forever?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
5. K&R...
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:31 AM
May 2012

And we will hear next to nothing about this in the media. Yet, if her name were name Natalie Holloway, and she were white, you wouldn't be able to escape the story

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
6. Three times I have posted about this here. The first was a petition drive
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:33 AM
May 2012

to get the case looked into by the Feds.

The second was an update (and I kicked the first), and now this one.

I doubt we'll see it here, on the front page, 20 minutes from now.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
12. I'd venture to say that her being female has a lot to do with it.
Fri May 18, 2012, 12:31 PM
May 2012

I was talking about sexism vs. racism in a reply on another thread, that tells the Trayvon Martin story, only with the victim as a GIRL of UNSPECIFIED RACE:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002700580

I have noticed that on those rare occasions when public attention is directed at racism AND sexism against a Black woman or women, the focus is on the racist aspects, while the sexist part is generally completely ignored! Ever noticed that?

I was just comparing the fact that murder of women, of any color--overt hate against women, and public victim blaming of women--does not ever seem to stir up a grassroots movement protesting hate and violence against women, while the parallel situation in a male, racist context DOES.

It is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT that racism and violence capture public outcry (in case anyone thought I was complaining). What I am trying to say is, I want the SAME MASSIVE PUBLIC DEMAND for WOMEN.


On Edit: I ALSO am noticing a trend in this thread. Many posters are seeing this through a Racism filter---that it was written as a metaphor examining Racism, because it parallels Trayvon Martin's murder. Many people are missing the point that this kind of victim blaming and normalization of FEMICIDE is the accepted norm in REAL LIFE stories like the OP's. -------------

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
13. All three victims were FEMALE.
Fri May 18, 2012, 12:45 PM
May 2012

They also happened to be African American.

Poor Jasmine and her family.

Too many sexist, and/or racist idiots with guns in this country.

Uncle Joe

(58,361 posts)
14. It seems to me that if nothing else he should have been charged with involuntary manslaughter,
Fri May 18, 2012, 12:52 PM
May 2012

this looks highly suspicious.

Thanks for the thread, ScreamingMeemie.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
15. The Remington 700 has a long history
Sat May 19, 2012, 04:34 AM
May 2012

of accidental discharges due to a bad trigger design. It was CNBC I believe that did an hour long report about it. The shooter may have been negligent, I don't know or he could be a racist who killed this young girl on purpose, I don't know that either but the shooting is certainly worth an in depth investigation considering the circumstances.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
17. And this brownshirt KNEW it
Sat May 19, 2012, 06:42 AM
May 2012

and is only using it as an excuse to get away with murder.

If the investigation is anywhere near competent, trajectory will show he had to aim at this woman

It was deliberate.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
18. I have to agree with you
Sat May 19, 2012, 06:58 AM
May 2012

It is unlikely that anyone who owns a Remington 700 would not be aware of their trigger problems. The whole thing stinks.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
16. "open season on America's black youth"
Sat May 19, 2012, 05:39 AM
May 2012

I cannot believe you wrote that and people are buying into it.

http://homicide.kansascity.com/news/kansas-city-community-leaders-seek-answers-to-surge-in-homicides/

"The scene Thursday was tragically typical:
The quiet of a residential street on Kansas City's east side is disturbed by several rapid-fire popping sounds. A car speeds away as someone calls 911. Police arrive and find a 20-year-old black male dead on the sidewalk, bleeding from the head."

...

"Two of this year's homicide victims were 16-year-old girls, shot to death in separate incidents that escalated from verbal arguments.
On March 16, Jalisa Reed was with a group of people at an apartment complex in the 7600 block of Monroe Avenue when another young woman exchanged words with a young man. He left, then returned with a gun and fired toward the group. Jalisa was killed and another young woman was wounded. No charges have been filed."


http://www.examiner.com/article/trayvon-martin-story-is-sad-but-blacks-have-bigger-issues


"When the reports are released later this year, similar homicidal numbers are expected in 2010 and 2011. Also, FBI studies have shown murder victims are three times likely to be black. And the assailants are typically that of African descent. In other words, black-on-black crime couldn’t be more chronic.

Yet, we become livid when another race or color deem our lives utterly useless and expendable.

The past few days, yours truly covered the tragic deaths of two 16-year-old girls in Kansas City – both reportedly slain at the hands of black men. Jalisa Reed, a student at Schlagle High School and Renesha Jones, a student at Center High School, are no longer with us. They’ll never be wives and they’ll never be mothers because ruthless killers chose to extract those dreams away from them."

madokie

(51,076 posts)
20. Does everyone realize now
Sat May 19, 2012, 07:43 AM
May 2012

Why our President has to walk so softly.
There is a lot of stupid racist people here in America yet and we can't ever relax until they are gone.

Nine

(1,741 posts)
21. Maybe the bullet just wanted to talk to those three ladies.
Sat May 19, 2012, 07:53 AM
May 2012

Who knows what really happened in that house? Maybe that bullet just came over to ask them a question and they all lunged their bodies toward the bullet violently and maliciously.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
23. It won't be long before someone comes out to say he's the victim
Sat May 19, 2012, 11:04 AM
May 2012

I'm sure Jasmine's character will be thoroughly trashed in any way it can be to make her look like she deserved it. And he'll be thoroughly characterized as the victim, probably forced to have the weapon for self defense against his neighbors.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
25. It appears Mr. James Anthony Blackwell is, unless, in the FBI investigation, it comes out that
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:54 PM
May 2012

Jasmine had some secret life outside of her life that we know of. Or are you suggesting collateral damage? Which would be very interesting on a progressive board.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
26. I was referring to your comment about it being open season on America's black youth.
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:57 PM
May 2012

I thought you were talking in the general sense and that this particular killing was part of a pattern - hence my question. My apologies if that was not your intent.

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