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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:39 PM May 2012

Man who fathered 30 kids says he needs a break—on child support

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-fathered-30-kids-needs-break-child-support-140439765.html

Desmond Hatchett, 33, of Knoxville has children with 11 different women, reports WREG-TV.

The state already takes half his paycheck and divides it up, which doesn't amount to much when Hatchett is making only minimum wage. Some of the moms receive as little as $1.49 a month. The oldest child is 14 years old.

Hatchett explains how he reached such a critical mass: He had four kids in the same year. Twice.

Back in 2009 when Hatchett was in court to answer charges that many of the mothers were not receiving child support, he had 21 children. At the time, he said he was not going to father any more kids, but he ended up having nine more in the past three years.


Are these really the genes we want perpetuating themselves?

I love the phrase, "He ended up having nine more"... yes, "ended up". Because there's absolutely no agency on his part here.
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Man who fathered 30 kids says he needs a break—on child support (Original Post) Recursion May 2012 OP
Oh, dear God... Ishoutandscream2 May 2012 #1
I have no pity here Horse with no Name May 2012 #2
He needs a condom.....that doesn't break. marmar May 2012 #3
He needs to get snipped. Arugula Latte May 2012 #14
I remember the first stories about this guy Blue_Tires May 2012 #4
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #6
I agree - where are the eleven pissed off fathers! bluedigger May 2012 #20
sadly many of their fathers are probably absentee Blue_Tires May 2012 #21
/facepalm LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #5
Unfortunately, natural selection favors this particular male strategy maggiesfarmer May 2012 #7
I'll name one son r and the other K Recursion May 2012 #15
Well this guy is really living that out treestar May 2012 #72
And this is why I have no sympathy for men who whine about child support. Odin2005 May 2012 #8
I was on my own with 4 young children and my sister was on her own with 1... Little Star May 2012 #26
He needs to be neutered. catbyte May 2012 #9
What about the women who keep getting knocked up? TLM May 2012 #40
+31 undeterred May 2012 #67
This is nuts Cali_Democrat May 2012 #10
I know a man who is a little older than me. He fathered 5 sons. Poll_Blind May 2012 #11
I can guarantee you that this guy has never ONCE thought of the KatyaR May 2012 #22
Apparently the women aren't thinking of the consequences either. mythology May 2012 #48
high sperm mobility is a bitch tapermaker May 2012 #12
Attention young ladies, do not f*ck this man: LeftinOH May 2012 #13
You mean don't fu*k him AGAIN.... TLM May 2012 #39
This is evolution at work. Unfortunately. mainer May 2012 #16
This is one case where I think the guy should be working three jobs if possible... WI_DEM May 2012 #17
Perfect karma would be him winning the lottery Blue_Tires May 2012 #60
No, perfect karma would be him working his ass of to support these kids. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #69
even if he made $50k a year Blue_Tires May 2012 #71
This fuckwit should be neutered. hifiguy May 2012 #18
I guess that is his reproductive right. ZombieHorde May 2012 #19
Who is he - Bob Marley? Initech May 2012 #23
hardly Marley had the money to support his kids and a cooperative wife azurnoir May 2012 #34
Didn't Bob Marley have like 30 something kids with like 10 different women? Initech May 2012 #47
no he had 12, 2 of which were Rita's but he considered his azurnoir May 2012 #49
Oh my gosh, there's just no excuse for this. MerryBlooms May 2012 #24
I think several neighborhood tomcats have fathered less kittens than him tabbycat31 May 2012 #25
He should keep it in his pants for a while - nt badtoworse May 2012 #27
Come again? Warren DeMontague May 2012 #28
Well, he can't use contraception Shankapotomus May 2012 #29
This puts irresponsibility on a whole new plane. lpbk2713 May 2012 #30
Do you really want to restrict people's reproductive rights? nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #52
They need to invent contraception that women can take. CBGLuthier May 2012 #31
speaking as a woman here I must ask azurnoir May 2012 #32
Exactly.... thank you.... n/t TLM May 2012 #38
Thanks, seemed like someone had to say it azurnoir May 2012 #53
The moms are raising these kids more than likely... cynatnite May 2012 #41
again speaking as a woman and women are the one most likely to shoulder azurnoir May 2012 #50
Which is what I said. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #64
Well they made their beds as the saying goes. dkf May 2012 #56
I wonder how many of them know about each other? treestar May 2012 #73
I'm thinking most of them did know about each other azurnoir May 2012 #76
And the world of Idiocracy moves one step closer to reality. NickB79 May 2012 #33
There was a recent DNA study that concluded that the human genome has unusual number of defects FarCenter May 2012 #35
11 different women.... TLM May 2012 #36
Do you think he would tell her he's got more than 2 dozen other kids? cynatnite May 2012 #42
Well it's on yahoo and in the courts.... TLM May 2012 #45
Thanks. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #46
Did the Mothers Know he was Texasgal May 2012 #55
Deadbeat or not, did they not care about disease? NickB79 May 2012 #65
I can't find any info on the mothers Blue_Tires May 2012 #57
Who is saying they aren't responsible? Darth_Kitten May 2012 #70
Hahahahahaaa... I almost pissed my pants. RagAss May 2012 #37
So, it never occured to him to have a vasectomy after baby number 10 or 15. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #43
He knows where babies come from by now Blue_Tires May 2012 #58
Yo, Desmond! KamaAina May 2012 #44
So I guess a college fund is out of the question. nt Incitatus May 2012 #51
This dude is WINNING the war to pass his DNA on to posterity. Poll_Blind May 2012 #54
WINNING indeed. nt BlueIris May 2012 #62
Indeed. treestar May 2012 #74
Maybe a break from making babies would be a better plan ... nt TBF May 2012 #59
Jesus Christ. BlueIris May 2012 #61
I don't think it was Jesus, actually. Codeine May 2012 #63
What about this jerks kids? All 30 of them... RoadRage May 2012 #66
Uh... maybe he could get rich writing a book on how to woo women? MannyGoldstein May 2012 #68
He's like a one-man Duggar! Nt XanaDUer May 2012 #75
Seems like all the wrong people are outbreeding the rest of society. Marr May 2012 #77

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. I remember the first stories about this guy
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:46 PM
May 2012

IIRC his M.O. is to prey on the gullible teen girls way out in the sticks who don't know any better...

At some point the women involved (or their parents) have to start taking responsibility for themselves in enabling this mess...

Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #4)

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
20. I agree - where are the eleven pissed off fathers!
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:55 PM
May 2012

I think some community involvement is overdue here.

maggiesfarmer

(297 posts)
7. Unfortunately, natural selection favors this particular male strategy
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:55 PM
May 2012

and will continue to do so until women become more selective over who they will breed with. this strategy will lead to numerous offspring, but each individual offspring we would assume has a lower chance of survival.

that's not to say that natural selection doesn't also favor the monogomous, father-stays-around strategy. this strategy leads to less children (capped at 1/9 months) but each child getting more parental attention is more likely to survive and reproduce themselves.

Dawkins discusses this more eloquently than i ever could

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. I'll name one son r and the other K
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:21 PM
May 2012

However, r has never been a selection strategy among primates. Until this guy.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
72. Well this guy is really living that out
Sun May 20, 2012, 05:19 PM
May 2012

But even rock stars don't have this many kids. What's so appealing about this guy? According to this theory, he must be the bomb! Chick magnet.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
26. I was on my own with 4 young children and my sister was on her own with 1...
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:47 PM
May 2012

Neither of us were able to get child support and the laws were pretty strict about that too. There were just too many ways for the fathers to go off the grid with jobs that paid in cash so they always got the sympathy of the courts because they were not employed (ha).

It wasn't easy but we both worked two and three jobs and we supported our own children.

Neither of us bad mouthed the fathers to the kids and they ended up having pretty good relationships with their dads.

What's done is done so it was better for our children to just let sleeping dogs lay. We lived but it wasn't easy.

catbyte

(34,367 posts)
9. He needs to be neutered.
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:58 PM
May 2012


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TLM

(6,761 posts)
40. What about the women who keep getting knocked up?
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:31 PM
May 2012


Should they get their tubes tied as well?

After the 3rd or 4th time, can you still call it a mistake?

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
11. I know a man who is a little older than me. He fathered 5 sons.
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:06 PM
May 2012

With the same wife and he supports them all. He's working his ass off to do it, and his house is crowded. But he's doing it.



PB

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
22. I can guarantee you that this guy has never ONCE thought of the
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:32 PM
May 2012

consequences of having sex. All he wants is to get off, the woman is just a means to do that.

Stupidity at its best.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
48. Apparently the women aren't thinking of the consequences either.
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:40 PM
May 2012

It's stupidity all around and unfortunately the kids are going to be the ones to pay for it.

 

tapermaker

(244 posts)
12. high sperm mobility is a bitch
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:06 PM
May 2012

maybe if he was branded on the forhead with big capital letters DANGER. Women would think twice about letting him into their bedrooms .Then again that might just turn them on more.

LeftinOH

(5,354 posts)
13. Attention young ladies, do not f*ck this man:
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:08 PM
May 2012

Because he will get you pregnant, then split, and you will get no financial assistance from him.
Becoming just another one of some irresponsible asshole's many "baby mamas" is not a goal worth pursuing.

Seriously.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
17. This is one case where I think the guy should be working three jobs if possible...
Fri May 18, 2012, 02:38 PM
May 2012

he helped bring all these kids in with 11 different women. He should make sure that they are getting enough support. Maybe he should consider a vasectomy?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
60. Perfect karma would be him winning the lottery
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:59 PM
May 2012

all the mothers get paid, and he ends up spending his meager share on lawyers trying to fight the court judgements

Darth_Kitten

(14,192 posts)
69. No, perfect karma would be him working his ass of to support these kids.
Sun May 20, 2012, 12:38 PM
May 2012

Sorry, losers and the pathetic women who mate with them deserve to have a hard time of it.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
71. even if he made $50k a year
Sun May 20, 2012, 02:21 PM
May 2012

each kid would get less than $100 a month...

so there is ZERO incentive whatsoever for him to work harder or advance his career--He earns just enough to live, and the moms get pennies...

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
34. hardly Marley had the money to support his kids and a cooperative wife
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:06 PM
May 2012

who at one time or another took all of them in and BTW they had an understanding marriage because reputedly Rita had a kid by another man while she was married to Bob

Initech

(100,062 posts)
47. Didn't Bob Marley have like 30 something kids with like 10 different women?
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:39 PM
May 2012

I know there's a few that are Marley's true offspring but I remember reading that in a Rolling Stone article a few years back that he said he wanted to "have as many children as there were rays of the sun".

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
30. This puts irresponsibility on a whole new plane.
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:11 PM
May 2012



There should be a law against such deliberate and negligent stupidity.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
31. They need to invent contraception that women can take.
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:48 PM
May 2012

So they too can share the blame for being irresponsible.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
32. speaking as a woman here I must ask
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:58 PM
May 2012

at what point do the 'baby mama's' bear some responsibility? I ask because I see quite a bit of condemnation here for Hatchett and it's deserved but little or nothing about the women involved, 30 kids by 11 moms averages to 2.72 kids per mom meaning he had more than 1 child by several of the women involved, so they did not figure out that he was a 'bad bet' to put it mildly?

IMO the responsibility should be shared and BTW I have no idea if welfare is involved or to what degree but it should be noted that in most states when the mother is on welfare child support is in reality remuneration to the state and does little to nothing to improve the child's life

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
41. The moms are raising these kids more than likely...
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:37 PM
May 2012

So, I would say they are taking responsibility. Of course both he and the women could have used a little thing called contraceptives to avoid the side-effect of pregnancy.

So, neither didn't. A pregnancy resulted. Mothers exercised their right to choose by having the babies. The mothers are raising them and he is required to pay child support as would anyone else.

Shared custody is an option, but he may not be able to make enough time in the month to give these 30 children any kind of quality time.

I do wonder if he was honest with these women about his numerous other children.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
50. again speaking as a woman and women are the one most likely to shoulder
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:16 PM
May 2012

the greatest responsibility for the children in these kind of situations not to mention the pregnancy and child birth women should take some responsibility for their reproductive rights IMO

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
56. Well they made their beds as the saying goes.
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:50 PM
May 2012

It's not much of a big deal to him. Whatever he makes just gets divided a little bit more.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
73. I wonder how many of them know about each other?
Sun May 20, 2012, 05:21 PM
May 2012

You'd think news would get around that you're having someone's 20th kid.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
76. I'm thinking most of them did know about each other
Sun May 20, 2012, 05:39 PM
May 2012

even the ones where the relationships were concurrent, you'd be surprised (maybe), not that they tend to be complaicent about it though they usally go after each other rather than the guy involved

years ago I worked with a guy that could have been this guys 'big brother' so to speak, but the guy I worked with used to bring a photo album to work with him, he was 24 at the time and had like 10 kids by 7 different women, he was rather good looking and tried to use this as part of his come on, I had to ask wtf is this a breeding book or what? he claimed it was to show he was a "good dad" to his kids and dependable too and again

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
33. And the world of Idiocracy moves one step closer to reality.
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:59 PM
May 2012

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna watch "Ow My Balls!", go get a handjob at Starbucks and a burger at Buttfucker's.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
35. There was a recent DNA study that concluded that the human genome has unusual number of defects
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:24 PM
May 2012

Due to the rapid expansion of the population over the last 10,000 years.

TLM

(6,761 posts)
36. 11 different women....
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:25 PM
May 2012

So 11 different women made the choice to have sex with this known deadbeat.

And 11 different women made the choice to have this known deadbeat's kids... some repeatedly.

At what point do these 11 different women have to be responsible for their choices?

At what point does having sex with Desmond Hatchett, become essentially the same acts as taking a trip down to the sperm bank?


I'm not saying this loser has no responsibility to pay for his brood.

But if your baby mama number 11 and you know he’s a deadbeat who hasn't been paying for the last 29 kids... 3 of which are yours... and you decide to get knocked up again... who is to blame when, surprise surprise, he doesn't pay for number 30?

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
42. Do you think he would tell her he's got more than 2 dozen other kids?
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:41 PM
May 2012

I'm not saying the women have no responsibility here. Of course, they do. More than likely they're the ones that are doing the raising of the children. He is expected to fulfill his end of the deal by paying child support.

Of course, the man and the women involved should have used some kind of contraceptives.

I would think after baby number 10 or 15, the man would have asked himself if he should get a vasectomy.

TLM

(6,761 posts)
45. Well it's on yahoo and in the courts....
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:49 PM
May 2012


So it isn't exactly a secret.

And this report says they knew back in 2009 when he only had 21 kids.


NickB79

(19,233 posts)
65. Deadbeat or not, did they not care about disease?
Fri May 18, 2012, 11:27 PM
May 2012

Even if they didn't care about getting pregnant, what about getting herpes, HIV, etc?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
57. I can't find any info on the mothers
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:54 PM
May 2012

But I swear in the stories from 3-4 years ago, I read some of them were really young when he first met them...It's much easier to smokescreen an under-or uneducated teenage girl living out in the country...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
58. He knows where babies come from by now
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:57 PM
May 2012

I think this is something he wants to be known for, for better or worse...Besides, it's not like the state can take more of his crummy paychecks...

Just pray to god some jerkoff reality TV producer doesn't start getting ideas

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
54. This dude is WINNING the war to pass his DNA on to posterity.
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:26 PM
May 2012

Why...the fuck did I get a vasectomy after one child?



PB

treestar

(82,383 posts)
74. Indeed.
Sun May 20, 2012, 05:23 PM
May 2012

This guy must be the sexy, that's for sure. Maybe mothers 10 and 11 figure they want their kids to have whatever it is more than they need the money for child support.

RoadRage

(4,398 posts)
66. What about this jerks kids? All 30 of them...
Sun May 20, 2012, 12:11 PM
May 2012

I realize a large portion of the population doesn't have a father figure in their life.. but this jerk seems intent on having 30 kids, and not giving a SHIT about any of the kids he's fathering and not planning on being around to watch them grow up.

At what point can you call this gross neglect, and arrest him for this? Especially since some of the "women" he's knocking up are 19 - 20 years old. Sure.. they "SHOULD" know better.. but to be fair, they are having 1 - 4 babies.. he's having 30.

I have always thought that forced sterilization is not something that the government should ever be involved in... but then I read stories like this and wonder if there shouldn't be exceptions to a rule.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
68. Uh... maybe he could get rich writing a book on how to woo women?
Sun May 20, 2012, 12:24 PM
May 2012

Or have some sort of a home-study course? It'd make a great infomercial. Jerry Springer could emcee it.

I'm guessing he'd need some help with the writing, but WOW is he good at what he does well.

The proceeds could be used to help raise his spawn.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
77. Seems like all the wrong people are outbreeding the rest of society.
Sun May 20, 2012, 05:57 PM
May 2012

Religious kooks and morons.

Give it a few generations and the country will be nothing but religious zealots with their "WWJD" baseball caps on sideways.

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