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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:37 PM May 2012

Withdrawals at Santander UK amid Spain fears (they own Sovereign Bank in the US)

Customers with large deposits have started withdrawing cash from Santander, the bank has admitted, as it tried to reassure concerned members of the public that their money is safe.
...

On Thursday, Banco Santander, its UK subsidiary and 15 other Spanish banks had their credit ratings downgraded due to their exposure to the struggling Spanish economy. The Spanish banks were hit with more bad news yesterday, as official figures showed bad debts had risen to their highest level in 18 years.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9276164/Withdrawals-at-Santander-UK-amid-Spain-fears.html

USA Santander Private Banking
- Sovereign Bank
- Santander Consumer USA Inc. - www.santanderconsumerusa.com
- Santander Global Banking & Markets
- Roadloans -- www.roadloans.com
- HelpingLoans -- www.helpingloans.com


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santander_Group
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Withdrawals at Santander UK amid Spain fears (they own Sovereign Bank in the US) (Original Post) FarCenter May 2012 OP
Personal savings in the UK arms of such banks are protected up to £85,000 dipsydoodle May 2012 #1
Seems like it's safer than several others in the UK muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #2
Santander UK funds ringfenced under FSA order Eugene May 2012 #3
In London they should be able to do something clever with derivatives to acheive the same effect FarCenter May 2012 #4

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
1. Personal savings in the UK arms of such banks are protected up to £85,000
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:17 PM
May 2012

by legislation here in the UK and similar applies to small businesses too.

I can only assume that the withdrawals are by those with higher amounts or possibly those who overslept on the day they handed brains out.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
2. Seems like it's safer than several others in the UK
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:38 PM
May 2012
He also says 90% of the UK bank's balance sheet is UK-related money. "Sovereign exposures to Europe [excluding the UK] at 31 March 2012 were not significant, at less than 1% of total assets, and primarily related to Swiss government securities," he says. "Total exposure to eurozone periphery countries was less than 0.3% of total assets."

If the parent company wanted to extract money from the UK bank it would have to sell it or pay itself a dividend, but that would only be approved by the FSA if it met strict UK capital requirements. In short, this means if the Spanish part of the bank was in trouble it could not prop itself up with money extracted from the UK bank.

The spokesman says: "Both Santander and Santander UK are strong businesses focused on retail banking with no exposure to toxic financial products. Santander's UK business is strong and has a standalone credit rating which is one of the highest credit ratings of any UK bank."

Ray Boulger of mortgage brokers John Charcol says Santander is "probably the safest bank in the UK" because nearly all its savings and lending is in the UK. "If it gets very messy in Europe the knock-on effect is likely to hit other banks such as Barclays and Lloyds more than it would hit Santander," Boulger adds.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/may/18/santander-is-your-money-safe

Eugene

(61,945 posts)
3. Santander UK funds ringfenced under FSA order
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:22 PM
May 2012

Source: The Guardian

Santander UK funds ringfenced under FSA order

Bank needs regulator's permission to transfer any cash back to its
Spanish parent company


Giles Tremlett in Madrid and Jill Treanor
guardian.co.uk, Friday 18 May 2012 20.14 BST

Santander UK has been prevented from transferring any cash back to its Spanish parent company since December under a voluntary agreement with the Financial Services Authority.

The so-called "regulatory order" means that Santander UK needs the regulator's permission to transfer cash, underlining Santander UK's claim that its assets are ringfenced from its parent company. Concerns about the health of Spain's banks were growing following the mass downgrade by Moody's late on Thursday.

Steve Pateman, head of Santander UK's high-street banking operation, told the Guardian that the UK business had not paid a dividend to its parent company since the first half of 2011 and emphasised the financial strength of the UK business.

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Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/may/18/santander-uk-funds-fsa
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
4. In London they should be able to do something clever with derivatives to acheive the same effect
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:27 PM
May 2012
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