Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:16 PM

malaise (244,561 posts)

Oh dear - another theater shooting - this time in Tennessee

WTFF!!!

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63 replies	Author	Time	Post
Oh dear - another theater shooting - this time in Tennessee (Original post)	malaise	Aug 2015	OP
I'll betcha I know the type of person who did it...	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#1
Apparently the only injury was by hatchet.	HooptieWagon	Aug 2015	#4
How many hands did this guy have?	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#42
They were showing "Mad Max, Fury Road"	Warpy	Aug 2015	#27
I'm so disgusted by this country.	Arugula Latte	Aug 2015	#2
Jackass on M$NBComcast saying theaters must increase security - not one fugging word	malaise	Aug 2015	#3
Yes. We can't restrict our preciouses now, can we?	Arugula Latte	Aug 2015	#6
Great point on how they present the problem. nt.	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#9
He also carefully separated mentally ill persons and terrorists	malaise	Aug 2015	#12
Anything except the fact that millions and millions of guns in this country.....	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#18
Sometimes yelling and screaming are necessary	malaise	Aug 2015	#19
Our elected politicians don't seem to care about making it harder for people	B Calm	Aug 2015	#23
Hatchets must be banned, I bet this was the work of some ICP asshole	snooper2	Aug 2015	#25
How common are hatchet killings?	tabasco	Aug 2015	#31
Should a hatchet incident be the base for talking Gunz in GD?	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#35
Apparently no one was killed by the hatchet	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#51
If we don't get some tough gun laws in this country, I think theaters are	Cleita	Aug 2015	#5
Then they win	malaise	Aug 2015	#7
Oh for sure, but these incidents have been going on for decades now and gun	Cleita	Aug 2015	#13
At the same time, though, I am sick of the pat-downs and searches everywhere	alarimer	Aug 2015	#10
Didn't James Holmes get into the Aurora theater through a back door?	Deadshot	Aug 2015	#11
Somebody must have let him in. those doors should have panic hardware which	Cleita	Aug 2015	#17
He bought a ticket then propped the door open	csziggy	Aug 2015	#38
The Georgia Aquarium has had metal detectors for years	KamaAina	Aug 2015	#14
Sad but true	sub.theory	Aug 2015	#24
There were 1.2 billion movie tickets sold last year	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#28
It takes only one bullet to kill you. A bullet that has no place in	Cleita	Aug 2015	#29
Or traffic accident	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#41
Not the same thing. You have to go out in traffic.	Cleita	Aug 2015	#45
I'm not suggesting you take a gun anywhere	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#46
Tell that to the families of the victims of the shootings just this year. eom	Cleita	Aug 2015	#48
So whether something is true, depends on how someone feels?	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#49
Agreed	vankuria	Aug 2015	#37
I live 6 miles from a Nuclear Plant... I ain't scared of NOTHING!! :-)	Ghost in the Machine	Aug 2015	#55
The day I have to pack heat to go to a movie theater...	Initech	Aug 2015	#43
Dueling had rules and formalities. This is just free for all. eom	Cleita	Aug 2015	#44
People like Mark Cuban own movie theaters(not saying that is bad).	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#8
I hope so	malaise	Aug 2015	#16
Gun rights are now messing with corporate America on a weekly basis.	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#20
Something's got to give	malaise	Aug 2015	#21
Unbelieveable!	sub.theory	Aug 2015	#15
Statistically it's not that bad but the media will frighten everyone	malaise	Aug 2015	#32
I feel like moving to a more civilized country	olddots	Aug 2015	#22
Dammit	Aerows	Aug 2015	#26
Standard response from the Gun Enthusiasts: Tough shit.	Paladin	Aug 2015	#30
The shooting was done by the cops, taking out a hatchet wielder.nt	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#33
Actually	fifthoffive	Aug 2015	#34
So noted. Probably SBC.	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#36
H had an Airsoft replica pistol	Crabby Appleton	Aug 2015	#39
And he apparently has three hands	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#47
In his backpack, a "hoax bomb."	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#63
Suddenly my On Demand Offerings on my TV	HipChick	Aug 2015	#40
Except	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#50
This guy had an Airsoft, pepper spray, and a hatchet.	Snobblevitch	Aug 2015	#52
Apparently he opened fire with the Airsoft	Warpy	Aug 2015	#53
Initial reports said there was a gun battle between the dead guy and the cops.	beam me up scottie	Aug 2015	#54
If it's AP, the weapon will be a .50 Browning aircraft machinegun. Or AR 15.	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#60
They reported it was a pellet gun.	Lint Head	Aug 2015	#56
got awful quiet	Duckhunter935	Aug 2015	#57
Deal with the lying SWAT cops and the media	malaise	Aug 2015	#58
Or the normal	Duckhunter935	Aug 2015	#59
Reminds me of the Naval Yard killings when MSM reported...	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#61
I saw that, they did not correct	Duckhunter935	Aug 2015	#62

Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:19 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

1. I'll betcha I know the type of person who did it...

One with a gun.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:32 PM

HooptieWagon (17,064 posts)

4. Apparently the only injury was by hatchet.

that seems to be the most recent report.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:36 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

42. How many hands did this guy have?

He had pepper spray in one hand, a hatchet in the other hand, and a gun in his other other hand?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 04:32 PM

Warpy (102,805 posts)

27. They were showing "Mad Max, Fury Road"

so it could have been another deranged MRA type. All the BBC says is that he's 51 years old and doused the audience with pepper spray first.

There are too many loons out there with grudges and guns. You can't do much about the grudges. All you can do is make sure they can't get guns.

I'm sick of this shit even when the carnage is limited.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:24 PM

Arugula Latte (50,566 posts)

2. I'm so disgusted by this country.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:30 PM

malaise (244,561 posts)

3. Jackass on M$NBComcast saying theaters must increase security - not one fugging word

about guns. The reason there are copycats is because guns are too easy to access.

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:33 PM

Arugula Latte (50,566 posts)

6. Yes. We can't restrict our preciouses now, can we?

That's against FREEDOM.

If you get shot dead and lose not just your freedom but your life, well ... sucks to be you.

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:38 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

9. Great point on how they present the problem. nt.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:43 PM

malaise (244,561 posts)

12. He also carefully separated mentally ill persons and terrorists

They disgust me - they are part of problem

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Response to malaise (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:47 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

18. Anything except the fact that millions and millions of guns in this country.....

ARE RESTRICTING OUR FREEDOMS. Sorry to yell.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #18)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:49 PM

malaise (244,561 posts)

19. Sometimes yelling and screaming are necessary

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:55 PM

B Calm (28,762 posts)

23. Our elected politicians don't seem to care about making it harder for people

to purchase guns. So it makes sense to me that theaters have to increase security.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 04:14 PM

snooper2 (30,151 posts)

25. Hatchets must be banned, I bet this was the work of some ICP asshole

Since we are all speculating!

damn juggalos

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #25)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 08:00 PM

tabasco (22,974 posts)

31. How common are hatchet killings?

What is the basis for your argument to ban hatchets.

Do hatchet killings occur every day in America?

Please explain.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #31)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 08:19 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

35. Should a hatchet incident be the base for talking Gunz in GD?

Do you want to lift the ban on Gunz Talk in GD (it is already a "rolling exception" as evidenced by this OP)? I don't mind Gunz being discussed here if the exception was dropped; there are many posts which can be made about the positive aspects of armed SD, policies too encourage safe and responsible firearms use, home safety recommendations, etc. These could be posted here as well. If you want Gunz to be in GD again full-time (it seems that way de facto), I'll support you.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:29 AM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

51. Apparently no one was killed by the hatchet

good thing he didn't have a gun.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:32 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

5. If we don't get some tough gun laws in this country, I think theaters are

going to have to put in security like in government buildings and airports have with metal scanners and X-ray machines that you put your stuff in plastic trays. As a matter of fact I don't think I will go to the movies again until the theaters do this. I don't don't want to lose my life to a lunatic with a gun and a grudge.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:35 PM

malaise (244,561 posts)

7. Then they win

Time to stop the guns

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Response to malaise (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:44 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

13. Oh for sure, but these incidents have been going on for decades now and gun

laws are getting slacker not tougher. I don't have much choice but to go to plan B.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:39 PM

alarimer (16,245 posts)

10. At the same time, though, I am sick of the pat-downs and searches everywhere

Mostly they've been instituted under a bogus threat of "terrorism" at stadiums and wherever, but it's mostly nonsense. The real threat is from lunatics with guns.

So either the choice is to not leave the house, or be subject to unreasonable searches.

Yet no one talks about banning guns or having very restrictive permit processes. Because we have more to fear from a guy (usually, but not always, a white guy with a gun and some kind of grievance.

So I don't know.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:40 PM

Deadshot (384 posts)

11. Didn't James Holmes get into the Aurora theater through a back door?

But I agree with you. The gun laws need to be tougher in this country.

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Response to Deadshot (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:47 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

17. Somebody must have let him in. those doors should have panic hardware which

opens from the inside in case you need to escape a fire but lock on the outside. There is no lock to pick either. So someone left the door open or let him in deliberately.

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Response to Deadshot (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:12 PM

csziggy (33,522 posts)

38. He bought a ticket then propped the door open

While he went out to get his protective gear and weapons.

Police said Holmes bought a ticket, entered the theater, and sat in the front row. About 20 minutes into the film, he left the building through an emergency exit door, which he propped open with a plastic tablecloth holder.

<SNIP>

He then went to his car, which was parked near the exit door, changed into protective clothing, and retrieved his guns.[8][9] About 30 minutes into the film, police say, around 12:30 am,[10] he reentered the theater through the exit door. He was dressed in black and wore a gas mask, a load-bearing vest (not to be confused with a bulletproof vest), a ballistic helmet, bullet-resistant leggings, a bullet-resistant throat protector, a groin protector, and tactical gloves.[11] Initially, few in the audience considered Holmes to be a threat. According to witnesses, he appeared to be wearing a costume, like other audience members who had dressed up for the screening.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting#The_shooting

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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:44 PM

KamaAina (78,249 posts)

14. The Georgia Aquarium has had metal detectors for years

I was quite taken aback to discover this. Apparently someone down there has a grudge against belugas.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:58 PM

sub.theory (652 posts)

24. Sad but true

I think you may be right. At this point, people are going to start being afraid to go to a theater and unless the industry starts taking proactive steps people will just wait to see a movie at home where they won't be massacred in the dark. What on Earth is behind all of this anger and violence?

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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 04:48 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

28. There were 1.2 billion movie tickets sold last year

Combined, we less than 20 deaths.

Personally, I'd be scared out of my mind to DRIVE to the movie theater where I will be a lot safer from any harm.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #28)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 05:18 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

29. It takes only one bullet to kill you. A bullet that has no place in

an entertainment complex like a theater. No guns, no bullets equals no deaths by gunfire.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #29)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:35 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

41. Or traffic accident

Which is orders of magnitude more likely to lead to your demise than being shot in a theater.

Last year 30,000 plus people died in car crashes. 12 people were shot in a theater. The math doesn't lie.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #41)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 11:55 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

45. Not the same thing. You have to go out in traffic.

You don't have to carry a gun and ammo with you unless you are a soldier in a war zone or a cop on duty.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #45)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:00 AM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

46. I'm not suggesting you take a gun anywhere

The point is that you, an unarmed person, are safer from harm in a movie theater than you are in the car on the way to or from the theater.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #46)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:11 AM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

48. Tell that to the families of the victims of the shootings just this year. eom

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Response to Cleita (Reply #48)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:25 AM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

49. So whether something is true, depends on how someone feels?

So if a guy says "Black men are dangerous criminals" and I call him a racist, can you tell me what I should say to "Tell that to someone who was the victim of a black criminal!"?

Maybe this is difficult to understand, but fear is an irrational thing.

Yes, out of 1.2 billion theater visits last year, a dozen people were killed by shooting.

Every five days in the U.S. a child dies by choking on their food. Go tell them how healthy it is to eat! What sort of reasoning is that?

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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:04 PM

vankuria (891 posts)

37. Agreed

I'll admit I'm too scared to go to the movies right now, unless some type of security is put in place.

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Response to vankuria (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:35 AM

Ghost in the Machine (14,912 posts)

55. I live 6 miles from a Nuclear Plant... I ain't scared of NOTHING!! :-)

Where in Tennessee did this happen? I have been on the go most of the day & night and haven't heard about it until now. Unless I missed it, or just because I haven't read all of the replies yet, I haven't seen a link yet.

Shootings have been on the rise here recently. Just a few days ago, in the town next to ours, there was a triple shooting that left 2 dead and one wounded. Even odder, one of the dead, who had been shot the most, had just threatened to kill my son a couple of weeks ago. Then he robbed someone else for over $1200.00! He was a well known thief and a violent meth-head. HUGE, too! I'm 6'3" and 215 lbs and he made me look small.

Live by the gun, die by the gun... I guess he pissed the wrong person off this time...

Ghost

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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:42 PM

Initech (91,762 posts)

43. The day I have to pack heat to go to a movie theater...

Is the day I stop going to movie theaters. Let's face it, the gun nuts want to bring back a society where dueling is legal.

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Response to Initech (Reply #43)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 11:53 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

44. Dueling had rules and formalities. This is just free for all. eom

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:37 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

8. People like Mark Cuban own movie theaters(not saying that is bad).

Get ready for the discussion on guns to get ramped up a little. This is going to start cutting into the profits of the 1%.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:47 PM

malaise (244,561 posts)

16. I hope so

The gun manufacturers are also part of the 1% - they never lose.
Meanwhile all our rights disappear

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Response to malaise (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:49 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

20. Gun rights are now messing with corporate America on a weekly basis.

I don't have much hope with it myself. I'm probably even stretching. A girl can dream.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:53 PM

malaise (244,561 posts)

21. Something's got to give

This cannot continue - bet no one asks the ReTHUG clowns about guns tomorrow night

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:45 PM

sub.theory (652 posts)

15. Unbelieveable!

Well, it looks like we are now risking our lives by going to a movie theater. Simply unbelievable. What in the heck is wrong with this country?!

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Response to sub.theory (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 08:06 PM

malaise (244,561 posts)

32. Statistically it's not that bad but the media will frighten everyone

It suits them - more guns all around

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 03:54 PM

olddots (10,237 posts)

22. I feel like moving to a more civilized country

face it America is doomed by ignorance and greed .

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 04:23 PM

Aerows (39,961 posts)

26. Dammit

Not again!!!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 05:33 PM

Paladin (25,203 posts)

30. Standard response from the Gun Enthusiasts: Tough shit.

And that goes for the next dozen armed invasions of movie theaters, and all the carnage involved. Our deaths don't trump Gun Enthusiasts' rights. Just ask them.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 08:11 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

33. The shooting was done by the cops, taking out a hatchet wielder.nt

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #33)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 08:19 PM

fifthoffive (382 posts)

34. Actually

He shot at a police officer in the theater building. The cop returned fire, and fled out the back. The perpetrator was apparently shot by the Swat team. Unsure whether he was inside or outside at the time.

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Response to fifthoffive (Reply #34)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 08:34 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

36. So noted. Probably SBC.

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Response to fifthoffive (Reply #34)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:38 PM

Crabby Appleton (5,231 posts)

39. H had an Airsoft replica pistol

not a real gun.

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Response to Crabby Appleton (Reply #39)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:02 AM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

47. And he apparently has three hands

One to hold a hatchet, one to hold pepper spray, and one to hold an airsoft pistol.

He was obviously down to his level one melee weapons.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #47)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 04:58 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

63. In his backpack, a "hoax bomb."

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:54 PM

HipChick (25,369 posts)

40. Suddenly my On Demand Offerings on my TV

are looking real interesting..

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Response to HipChick (Reply #40)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:28 AM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

50. Except

The marginal disadvantage of remaining sedentary at home versus walking to your car and across a parking lot is more likely to kill you from the lack of exercise.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:34 AM

Snobblevitch (1,958 posts)

52. This guy had an Airsoft, pepper spray, and a hatchet.

How is this classified as a theater shooting? (Other than the cops doing their job.)

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Response to Snobblevitch (Reply #52)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:12 AM

Warpy (102,805 posts)

53. Apparently he opened fire with the Airsoft

after spraying women with pepper spray and smacking some guy in the arm with his hatchet.

This guy wasn't playing with a full deck. Thank goodness he didn't have a real gun, a lot of people would have been dead.

Too many other guys with stupid imagined grudges have real guns these days and you know it.

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Response to Snobblevitch (Reply #52)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:13 AM

beam me up scottie (57,349 posts)

54. Initial reports said there was a gun battle between the dead guy and the cops.

Local channels are still calling it a theater shooting, not sure about the msm.

Vincente Montano was mentally ill and had a criminal record.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #54)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 02:57 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

60. If it's AP, the weapon will be a .50 Browning aircraft machinegun. Or AR 15.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 06:36 AM

Lint Head (15,064 posts)

56. They reported it was a pellet gun.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 06:41 AM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

57. got awful quiet

when it turned out he did not have a gun at all. Seems like some in this thread should take back their postings when the real facts came out.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #57)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 07:13 AM

malaise (244,561 posts)

58. Deal with the lying SWAT cops and the media

who reported a shootout.

Nothing changes the fact that guns kill - notice no one died but the man who was shot by the cops

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Response to malaise (Reply #58)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 07:34 AM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

59. Or the normal

People here that do not wait for the facts and once again have been proven to be wrong in their assumptions.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #57)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 03:04 PM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

61. Reminds me of the Naval Yard killings when MSM reported...

the weapon was an AR 15. Reading through Google topics, it was AR 15, AR 15, one after another.

Later in the day came the report the weapon was a hoary Remington pump shotgun.

Google topics MSM corrected, MSM corrected, one after another.

When the media is so locked into a Narrative™ it's just too much to let go. But it's still good enough for this forum!

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #61)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 03:47 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

62. I saw that, they did not correct

Themselves either.

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