I have a question about the BLM protests.

[Are_grits_groceries]

Why aren't they appearing at Hillary rallies or those of the GOP clowns?
Bernie does need to understand their movement and what they are asking for. He should not be given a pass.
However, the others need those lessons more than any other people. It seems they are the ones that are being given a pass.
Bernie tries to live up to what they want. He may have fallen short but he is trying. He is an easy target for the protests because he won't give them a ration of s***. They get publicity of a sort but they do so at the expense of a candidate who is more open to them.
If they want to really protest, they need to walk the walk and take it to all those running. If not, it's sound and fury.

[JI7]

1. she has security so they are not able to get up there and get the attention

hillary has had protestors but they are always at a distance from her .

[stranger81]

98. Her security protects her from disparaging hashtags, too?

Nonsense like #bowdownbernie is only being directed at one candidate, and this singular focus can't be chalked up to better security.

[Tarheel_Dem]

2. "they do so at the expense of a candidate who is more open to them."

[paleotn]

23. Compared to Scott Walker, Marco Rubio....

...damn near anyone with an R in front of their name....yes, I'd say he's more open to them. So is Hillary Clinton and the rest of the Dem field. They're barking up the wrong damn tree protesting either in my opinion and simply wasting their time and energy. That is unless they've become a tool of another campaign. I certainly hope not. That would be pathetic.

[Enrique]

3. yes it seems to me they are giving Hillary a pass for some reason

and it seemed to me they have been giving Obama a pass too.

on edit, I guess I was wrong about them and Obama

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/03/07/3631178/black-lives-matter-protesters-interrupt-obama-selma/

As he spoke, a group of protesters wearing shirts with airbrushed portraits of those killed by police started banging on drums and chanted, “Ferguson is here. We want change!” and “This is what democracy looks like.”

[6chars]

35. Maybe it is because she has spoken up about racism

spoken to varied audiences, has a diverse staff and has in general gotten in front of this

[me b zola]

84. You mean she has given lip service to issues important to Black people

...that is when she is not running against a popular Black Democratic candidate and feels compelled to use racist dog whistles to white voters. Or, how she actually governs by supporting policies that have had horrible consequences to the Black community. But yeah, she has "spoken up about racism". Rand & Ron Paul have also spoken against racism, but you know, their record and history reveal that they don't give a rats ass about the lives and struggles of the Black community.

[restorefreedom]

92. +1000 nt

[City Lights]

95. Great post!

[yardwork]

47. She has better security. /nt

[Katashi_itto]

4. It's a false flag operation. Lay you odds. It's backed by someone who wants Bernie out.

I wonder who...

[MinM]

7. Lisa Pease & Marcy Wheeler (emptywheel) tweeted about this last night..

COINTELPRO? or a version thereof?

[dreamnightwind]

8. Marcy Wheeler is nobody's fool - eom

[peacebird]

32. Soros provides millions to both hillary and the Ferguson protestors

But I get flamed for mentioning that younshould follow the money

[malaise]

14. +1,000

Truth will out

[HooptieWagon]

22. Yes, the truth will come out.

[yardwork]

46. You're saying that BLM is being paid to help Hillary?

That sounds racist and offensive to me.

Got any evidence or are you just assuming that black people can't think for themselves?

[dsc]

48. his evidence is

clenis clenis clenis

[yardwork]

80. lol!

Here comes the all-powerful clenis!!!

[GoneFishin]

63. You think is racist to point out the obvious fact that campaign strategists exist and that HRC

has some on her payroll? And that their job is to look for ways to crash the stock of the other candidates, the strongest of whom is currently Bernie?

[LiberalEsto]

88. It's a form of Swiftboating, IMHO nt

[Travis_0004]

5. I don't get why they don't take up their issues with Obama

He can do something about it now, vs somebody who may or may not be president 2 years from now.

[heaven05]

11. The ONLY truth

in your words is I do wish my POTUS would sic the Justice Department on ALL these racist animals like Bundy and the Waller County 'justice department', et al. The only reason I can surmise as to why he hasn't is some kind of legal hindrance preventing the national JD from really pursuing these type of animals and thugs.

[Doctor_J]

41. you really don't understand that?

Open your eyes

[GoneFishin]

65. Because their true goal is to take out Bernie. They have decided that working with Bernie for real

solutions to their grievances is less important than bumping him out of the race.

[jeff47]

71. #BlackLivesMatterButDontDoAnythingFor16Months (nt)

[pnwmom]

6. Because she hasn't been having that kind of rally. She hasn't gone to Netroots

since they protested her several years ago.

And she's been mostly going to small fundraisers, not rallies. Haven't you noticed? The protesters can't get in unless they pay. And the Secret Service wouldn't let them anyway,

[dreamnightwind]

12. Sorry that is not even close to the reason - eom

[McCamy Taylor]

9. I am reminded of 1968, when Blacks admired LBJ and draft age men hated him.

Because Black folks appreciated the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act and young, draft age, mostly white men were afraid of the War in Vietnam. Different groups have different focuses. You can not force a group to share your own focus.

[skepticscott]

17. Well, that's exactly what BLM is doing

They are ripping Sanders up and down because he hasn't immediately and vociferously supported their cause above all others every time there is an incident of an unjustified police killing of a black citizen. They want his primary focus and the focus of all of his supporters to be theirs.

[1StrongBlackMan]

27. Sanders is a candidate for a political office, not a group. n/t

[skepticscott]

31. His supporters are being lumped in with him, so yes, a group IS being targeted

This silly attention grab yesterday had the effect of punishing not just Sanders but the people who had come to hear him, and interfering with their rights.

[1StrongBlackMan]

37. Sorry a group of PROTESTERS interrupted/inconvenience you ...

but that's kind of the point of protesting, isn't it. Well, at least protests that we support.

[aikoaiko]

39. No, interruption/inconvenience are not the point of political protest. Change is the point.

Sadly, I think too many agree with you that interruption is the point.

[1StrongBlackMan]

45. Agreed ...

change is the end goal ... inter/disruption is an interim step to bring/focus attention on the need for change.

But I'm sure (hope) you knew that I do not advocate disruption for interruption's sake.

[aikoaiko]

52. I'm not sure of anyone anymore when I see so much uncritical support of BLM tactics...

...used against a candidate who is trying to make the case for fundamental changes that lead to empowerment in black lives as well as many others.

I know you're not an disrupter for disruptions sake.

[1StrongBlackMan]

57. It would seem ...

the candidate making the case for fundamental change would be the exact candidate to "target" when you believe that fundamental change would leave you out ... No?

[aikoaiko]

59. I wouldn't hurt the people most likely to help me. I would support them and work with them.

Not prevent them from speaking.

[1StrongBlackMan]

60. But that's just it ...

they DO NOT feel these people are most likely to help them/us, because the proposed cure does not address the problem they/we feel is most proximate.

[skepticscott]

40. Why do you assume I was there in person? I wasn't

And the fact that you think the point of protests is simply to inconvenience people just shows how how ham-handed the whole thing is. The ultimate goal of a protest is to bring about change, not to be able to say "look at US..we did something activist!". Which raises the still unanswered question, why weren't these "protesters" targeting either people who are the cause of the problem or people who can directly do something about it? Can you answer that?

[1StrongBlackMan]

50. No what is "ham handed" is all this apologia ...

for condemning a protest ... solely because the protest was directed at a particular candidate.

Which raises the still unanswered question, why weren't these "protesters" targeting either people who are the cause of the problem or people who can directly do something about it? Can you answer that?

While I am not a part of the BLM ... Yes. I can offer an answer that/those question(s).

Because Bernie Sanders is running for the Office of POTUS.

[skepticscott]

68. That's not why the protest is being condemned

It's being condemned because it had no chance of advancing a rational goal, and because it alienated people who would otherwise have supported your cause. As I said, ham-handed.

And lots of people are running for president, including some who haven't said one word in support of BLM, and are clearly against it and in favor of police killing unarmed black citizens. Why are they not being targeted? And why is a presidential candidate who hasn't even been elected more of a target than the actual president?

So, no, you did not offer an answer to my questions.

[MH1]

87. I'm condemning the accusation of "white supremacist".

That is way over the top. If BLM thinks all white liberals are "white supremacists" then good luck ever getting anything positive done for their cause.

FWIW I have been for many, many years a monthly donor to SPLC, a large and effective organization working against actual white supremacists (as well as other racists). I also work in other ways in my life to support equality and opportunity for people of color. I REALLY don't appreciate the misuse of the "white supremacist" label. Words have meaning and Sanders' supporters are not white supremacists. I suppose there might be one or two in the crowd, possibly, but knowing what ACTUAL white supremacists are usually like, I highly, highly doubt it.

A post on Black Agenda Report is calling for war against the Democratic Party. If that is successful then all it will do is help get a republican elected as president. Can you imagine what will happen to the last vestiges of the Voting Rights Act if there is a 4 year term of both Congress and the Presidency - as well as 3 probably Supreme Court replacements - TOTALLY in republican control? Expect for-profit prisons to get a boost, and a sharp uptick in mass incarceration - exactly what BLM purportedly is against.

Accuse me of "playing the fear card" but it is true, even if Democrats don't move you forward very fast, or at all, the only alternative (in the reality-based world) is the Republicans, who will set you back years if not decades. Your best bet is to find a way to get the Democrats to do more for the cause of equality and reducing racist incarceration. Maybe those BLM activists believe that what they are doing is good strategy towards that end. Or maybe that is not their end at all, but if so I don't know what it is.

(As someone for whom environmental destruction is my #1 issue, believe me I have had to ponder this "lesser of two evils" dilemma many times. But I have studied the system long enough to believe that slow progress, or even no progress, is a helluva lot better than the alternative, which would be a rapid acceleration backwards.)

[GoneFishin]

66. Good point. So they should be interupting Obama's speeches too. He has more power to have

the DOJ address these issues than Bernie.

But that won't happen because the real underlying motive is to smear Bernie.

[1StrongBlackMan]

26. +1.

[heaven05]

10. really? Just sound and fury?

Sound and fury is the sound of the report of a lethal weapon in the hand of a racist pig, like a dylaan roof, darren wilson, george zimpig, or the sound of whites laughing at a black woman choking to death in a jail cell. That's sound and fury. You're right, #BlackLivesMatter is fury at those sounds. And you have no idea what's going on. Bernie the champion of the civil rights movement. My ass. Really hilarious how some privileged and surprisingly, some not so privileged, people have twisted and turned this into poor Bernie being the victim. It's disgusting. Black people have no champion so so far, except #BlackLivesMatter. As much as I know about HRC, I am hoping, more and more, she wins the primary. I really do, and my "champion" can go back to Vermont and represent and be "champion" for his constituency.

[skepticscott]

18. And how did yesterday's farce advance your cause?

How did it amount to anything but a ham-handed attention grab by people wanting to look "activist". Where were the BLM protestors at the Republican debate? Did they have no quarrel with any of those people? Did they consider all of them as totally on their side? And do you consider Hillary Clinton your "champion"? Seriously? And where has Martin O'Malley been on this issue? Has BLM taken him to task as well and disrupted his campaign?

[Lizzie Poppet]

69. They're turning into the new PETA.

Harming their cause more than they help it...

[heaven05]

74. Your words have no importance to

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me. Have a good one, you're dismissed.

[skepticscott]

82. Feel free to dismiss as unimportant all of the people

who were put off by yesterday's debacle. You'll get a lot more responses of "fine, fuck you" than "I still want to help any way I can", even among people who would like to be on your side, trust me. Then see how well your cause does.

[heaven05]

86. I don't care

you were NEVER there in the first place. You talk the talk, but as usual, stumble when it comes to walking the walk. And the same back at you in how youc couched that "fuck you" statement. There has been no real help from those who have cared for 300+ years. Who do you think you're kidding? Shot, killed, hanged, castrated, for 250 years, where is the help? Please.....all I can do is.... Don't give a damn how many are put off by #blackLivesMatter.

[skepticscott]

93. Well, I am so fucking sorry for not being around

300 years ago to "help". But please, feel free to blame all the people you might want help from now for what happened back then and since. That will advance your cause even further. Go right on not caring, and get a dose of reality when you get more of the same. People have lots and lots of things in their lives to worry and to care about. If you want your cause to be on anybody's list who is not directly affected, this isn't the way to achieve that...not remotely.

And you know nothing, absolutely NOTHING about what "walk" I walk.

[fasttense]

20. It's Not the BLM movement that people are questioning

It's the protesters themselves. Who are those people on stage interrupting Bernie? Are they BLM members? Are they who they claim to be? The group has no formal organization and can easily be coopted by big money. It is something a RepubliCON would do. It's something the corporate media has discussed.

[heaven05]

79. if you say so

I'll believe it when your words are proven beyond a doubt. Till then....

[RoccoR5955]

21. I feel sorry for you

if you think that Mrs. Clinton has done more for civil rights than Sanders. You have been well indoctrinated.

[irisblue]

70. Alert Results

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"I feel sorry for you"
"You have been well indoctrinated"

Nasty passive aggressive personal attack.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:13 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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[John Poet]

81. LAME Alert, that. eom

[heaven05]

78. I feel for BS

[Are_grits_groceries]

25. It's not about Bernie in the end.

It's about getting people to understand BLM. Many don't because they say well "All lives matter." Then they get dumped on. I understand why that's a problem. It dilutes the point of BLM and ignores the fact that Blacks are disproportionately the focus of lethal force and LE.

Bernie will be fine if he has to return to Vermont. He has never been a victim and I never said so. Whatever he does, what has been accomplished? People have to understand the sound and fury you speak of and they don't.

I am not asking anybody in the BLM movement to wait. Nor am I asking for them to stop. They damn well better figure out some effective way of crossing the barrier of disconnect between them and the rest of apathetic America.

As odd as it sounds, they need a 'Trump.' Somebody who has enough cred to draw people in. Trump's cred is his money and his mouth. Then that person needs to hijack the debate for real. That could be one with facts that sound outrageous but aren't concerning people who are affected. If Warren Buffet entered the race and went on a tear, I can guarantee you that BLM would become an issue.

As it is now, it's an issue but not in a good way. And Bernie could make it his centerpiece. He would be dismissed even more. His cred is in populism. He does need to address the concerns of the BLM. However, he has only so much reach to be the standard bearer for BLM and it's not far.

Do you know what helped change the tide some in the 1960's? Bull Connor and his dogs and fire hoses. Those images gave people a real look at what was happening. The media is so fractured that capturing that attention again may be impossible. However, there are ways.

Somebody in the BLM movement needs to step out of the sound and fury and look at this as a tactical matter. As dispassionate as it sounds, a clear path and plan can probbly not be formed in too much heat. The Tea Party is an example. They were sound and fury. Then their energy was harnassed to challenge the usual candidates. They became a force to be reckoned with.

I have worked in campaigns since the 1970s. I have watched good and bad efforts. In the end, this is a campaign and one on which lives depend. Don't waste energy and collateral on futile gestures. Plan, plan, plan. Read Sun Tzu. He's good for a lot of things.

Rail and dismiss me all you want. I do care and do what I can. I know it's not a whole lot. Ignore all of this at your peril.

[heaven05]

77. all lives matter

is an attempt to diminish #BlackLivesMatter. It's a tried and true tactic of the privileged. period.

[giftedgirl77]

30. Well said...

They are just fuckin clueless. I've gotten a few hides lately so I'm kind of layin low.

[heaven05]

75. yep

that's all they have to fight the truth...meaningless because this place is not the end all, be all. BS will find that out on primary day

[Vinca]

13. The irony is that Bernie has probably done more for civil rights in his lifetime than

the disrupters can even imagine. They should be going after the party that is making it policy to stop them from voting at all.

[kacekwl]

16. Correct

seems odd yes ?

[maindawg]

15. These women were barking up the wrong tree

They stole Bernies crowd. I thought Bernie handled it very well.He was respectful to them. They looked bad though and did not help their cause. Preaching to the choir.
So while Bernie has rallies, Hillary is quietly hording cash.

[B Calm]

19. I agree, those disrespectful women hurt their cause.

[Paka]

24. By making this political and targeting one particular candidate,

they are turning off a lot of us who are lifelong civil rights activists and sympathetic to their issues.

[McKim]

28. Persistent Rumors that Senator Sanders Does Not Care about BLM are False

I attended a BLM event in Portland last Friday. Someone on a panel put Senator Sanders down. There are persistent and false rumors in BLM that Senator Sanders doesn't care about BLM. Someone started these rumors and someones keep them going. We must ask who benefits from this disruption and we must say: "By their fruits you shall know them". Senator Sanders was working for their civil rights before these young ladies were even born. These people are dupes or agent provacateurs.
I will continue to support BLM and ignore this event. The killing of Black Americans by our police and the support of this in our corrupt justice system is the greatest threat to our civil rights.

[Bonhomme Richard]

29. Whose campaign would be hurt the most if Bernie started to attract....

black voters?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist.

[MinM]

34. There's another possibility too..

What group (say in the top 1% or so of something or other) would have the most to lose if Bernie Sanders became the POTUS?

[paleotn]

33. It seems very Roveian....

....do all you can to eliminate the wild card, who appears to be able to actually bleed off support or at least sympathy from some the Rethugs normally consider safe votes. The less risky route is to insure the general is against the one every right winger hates instinctively and who they've been planning to run against since 2008.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

36. Is it working?

The way to judge any given tactic is simply to ask if it's effective or not. Is the response what BLM sought? Are they getting what they want from these particular protests?

To my point of view, there appear to be trade-offs in play, some things that help BLM and some that hurt them. But maybe it all looks helpful to those with other points of view. I can't tell until they tell us.

[jeff47]

73. You can't measure "working" unless you have a truthful view of the goal.

If the goal is to stop the abuse of blacks by law enforcement, storming the stage yesterday is not "working".

If the goal is different, it may have worked nicely.

[AngryAmish]

38. I have trouble remembering BLM is not Bureau of Land Management

I should drink less.

[jberryhill]

42. Seriously

Some headlines make me think something new is brewing at the Bundy ranch.

[yardwork]

43. You win the thread!

[yardwork]

44. This happens a lot with activist groups, actually.

It's always easier to pick on the nicest guy. That's one reason. Another reason is that the nicest guy has less security around him, partly because he's nice and partly because he's new to national politics and hasn't learned the sad realities about what happens when you let people get too close to the stage.

Are the Clintons paying BLM to knock Bernie out of the race? That strikes me as s deeply racist suggestion. in fact, that sounds like white liberal racist talk. No reason not to believe that the BLM activists are sincere. Misguided, maybe, but probably sincere.

[Shankapotomus]

55. "It's always easier to pick on the nicest guy."

Bingo. And that is exactly what a lot of liberals do to other liberals.

[Shankapotomus]

49. Bernie doesn't need to understand shit

And neither does any other liberal.

BML are not teachers and other liberals are not their students!

[PeaceNikki]

51. My question is for Sanders' campaign.

Why aren't they reaching out to BLM BEFORE events to discuss their concerns and aligning with them? I don't think Sanders is a racist, and that he's deeply concerned about racial issues, but he definitely has a problem with the way he's *perceived* in addressing their issues. This isn't the first time he's been disrupted and it won't be the last. In my opinion, he and his campaign are fucking this up royally.

[Shankapotomus]

54. Why didn't BLM reach out to him

before they blind-sided him?

[PeaceNikki]

56. They weren't "blind-sided", if they didn't see this coming, they're wearing blinders.

[Shankapotomus]

58. Again, why didn't BLM reach out to the Sander's campaign?

Why pull a "Gotcha!" on an opponent of the GOP?

[tazkcmo]

61. In this instance

"Why aren't they reaching out to BLM BEFORE events to discuss their concerns and aligning with them?"

Sen. Sanders was invited to come talk about SS and Medicare. A very specific agenda. This was not a campaign event organized by Bernie Sanders Campaign Committee. Should Sen. Sanders contact BLM before every one of his appearances and coordinate his message?



"I don't think Sanders is a racist, and that he's deeply concerned about racial issues, but he definitely has a problem with the way he's *perceived* in addressing their issues."

We agree here (Somewhat. I'm sure he's not a racist.) and I'm at a loss at to explain this. If one goes back and listens to his speeches, he's been bringing up incarceration rates of PoC, unemployment rates, etc. for most of his career, not just campaign. Since the NN protest he's adjusted his speeches to include the issues that BLM advocates for. Add to this that he's the only person, not just candidate or office holder, but person that they've targeted. Where's the O'Malley protest? Clinton protest? Any other protest aimed at shutting down a public figure? Puzzling.



"This isn't the first time he's been disrupted and it won't be the last. In my opinion, he and his campaign are fucking this up royally."

This takes me back to my question. Should Sen. Sanders call BLM before any and all appearances and coordinate his speeches (Talking Points?) no matter the subject matter of the appearance? Would you allow an activist group to dominate your political campaign that needs to appeal to ALL Americans? Does BLM have any responsibility, at all, to cooperate with Sen. Sanders or is all the onus on him and his campaign to coordinate with BLM?

[demmiblue]

91. Good points, though you will probably not get a response. n/t

[nc4bo]

53. Seems BLM and the NAACP could benefit from each other.

I'm not hearing as much as I'd like from these 2 unifying.

http://www.naacp.org/news/entry/naacp-announces-americas-journey-for-justice

Broad coalition of partners including the Democracy Initiative, Communications Workers of America, Common Cause, NAACP Legal Defense Fund, Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, 1199 SEIU, The Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, Sierra Club, National Bar Association, and Black Women’s Roundtable Announce 860-mile March from Selma, AL to Washington, DC featuring nationwide demonstrations, teach-ins, and #JusticeSummer campaign

OUR LIVES, OUR VOTES, OUR JOBS, OUR SCHOOLS MATTER
[IMG][/IMG]

BLM and the NAACP should be walking and working together. Why are they not?

Disconnect.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/darrensands/the-naacp-and-black-lives-matter-are-talking-past-each-other#.yaOBzw8Vn

And an attempt to unify.


http://blacklensnews.com/naacp-update-black-lives-matter/

http://bringmethenews.com/2015/05/04/black-lives-matter-activist-law-professor-elected-president-of-naacp-minneapolis/

I have ALWAYS felt there was power in numbers. Here we have what some as described in the articles; a gap between the young and the older. Different groups utilizing and depending on different modes of communication, both are experts.

Perhaps its time work was done to unify these two. BLM has the youth and protesting down but the NAACP also has valuable experience.

BLM is so on point with their message but they also take the risk of losing their significance with inefficient messaging. The NAACP is an excellent t vehicle to do this but could use a short visit to Pimp My Ride.

All candidates should be pressured relentlessly whether at a rally or on the public sidewalks in front of the homes where fundraisers and private parties are held.

These are just my private thoughts that come to me just before I go to sleep.


**C&P from a response in AA.

[Hydra]

62. BLM SHOULD be linking to other groups to support their movement

The fact that they are not interested in being part of a broader coalition is telling. In my work, I'm always looking for allies, converts, new information and workable goals.

BLM, on the other hand, seems to have enough support from somewhere undisclosed that they feel like they are well enough armed to go it alone.

[nc4bo]

64. It bothers me too that's why I thought it should be brought up

And put out there.

It's such simple commonsense! I look for "allies, converts, new information and workable goals." <-- especially this!

[Hydra]

67. Elizabeth Warren talked about that in setting up the Consumer Bureau

How everyone she talked too thought it was a good idea, and needed, but that it was too dangerous to try and enact. She found allies in 2s and 3s, and then went for groups like AARP and others that probably wouldn't have worked together normally, but they saw it as a worthy goal and something they had in common with other groups.

And she got it done.

[jeff47]

76. That presumes BLM is being truthful about their goals.

And after yesterday, I'm not sure they are. But given the disorganized nature of BLM, it is also entirely possible for one subgroup of BLM to want one thing, and another subgroup to want something else.

[shenmue]

83. "He is an easy target for the protests because he won't give them a ration of s***."

Turning on the BLM protesters will lead to your failure.

It's incredibly unprofessional and unpresidential for him to leave every time they confront him.

He should have said something, anything, even a brief response to them. He shouldn't have run away and made a statement on his website.

If you can't take constructive criticism, how will you govern?

Can you just maybe say to yourself Sanders was wrong and he needs to change the way he deals with people?

If he acted like that in front of the United Nations, or a joint meeting of Congress, he wouldn't last five seconds.

If you never admit you are wrong, if you always insist the problem is with other people, you will fail.

Sanders is, at best, handling this the wrong way.

BLM are not wrong.

If many of his supporters, as they do on this site, turn and heap scorn on BLM, it will backfire big time.

It's already happening.

You could turn it around, but I don't think you will. I don't think you can accept compromise. Purists usually don't.

[skepticscott]

85. Is there any point in asking

which candidate you support for president?

And you might want to direct these words of wisdom at the BLM protesters and their apologists: "If you never admit you are wrong, if you always insist the problem is with other people, you will fail."

[upi402]

90. The right wing is using your same meme

congrats and thanks for playing along!

BLM 100% wrong. Good luck with saying they were right here.
Bernie would have fed the Main Stream Media if he had grabbed the mic from the mentally ill women.

The record crowds and Bernie's message was ignored in the local media. They said he was met with a mixed reception, called him weak. Nice work BLM. The one candidate that would has actively fought for black rights, marched w/ Dr King, and has been jailed for civil disobedience. Yeah, next time do a simple Google search.

He did the rational thing if he wants to win, which he will.

[George II]

96. If Sanders and Trump get the nominations, it's frightening how he'll do in a debate next fall.

[Turin_C3PO]

89. I don't think the Hillary campaign is behind this.

I do think she, in general, has more "goodwill" built up in the black community (possibly due to Bill Clinton? This is not an insult to him though, I generally liked him as president). Maybe that's why she's getting a free pass for the moment? And maybe they know the GOP candidates are simply lost causes? I'm putting these statements in question form because I truly am not sure what's behind the targeting of Sanders.

[Deadshot]

94. Protesting someone who's been fighting for your rights is a boneheaded move, IMO.

And it won't buy them any supporters.

Why not go after the actual racists, you know, like Trump, et al.?

[awoke_in_2003]

97. He's an easy target

To get into GOP events you have to sign loyalty oaths. To get into the anointed one's events you have to be a big money donor and get past the Secret Service.