Message to BLM-why didn't you demostrate at the Republican debate?

[Stargazer99]

The lack of that activity in Republican land makes me wonder why? Almost makes me think the demonstration at Seattle Bernie's appearance was Republican approved as I don't see them troubled by the BLM movement...show me I'm wrong

[Dirty Socialist]

1. That's A Damn Good Question

K & R.

[yeoman6987]

24. I don't know how they could have

The first debate was closed to public and the second debate was enclosed in an arena that most likely forbid attendees to get close to moderators which definitely ensured that they didn't get close to nominees.

[Polly Hennessey]

2. You are not wrong.

That is my opinion only. I can tell you that something seems off-center about the group. Can't quite pin it down, yet.

Also, every time I see BLM I think of the Bureau of Land Management and for a split second I wonder---why are they protesting Bernie.

[HassleCat]

3. "Because we can't"

One of the women who disrupted the Sanders event explains it in an interview. She says she disrupts where and when she can, meaning she can't get near Clinton events, or Republican events.

[Cosmic Kitten]

16. They can't gather in front of a republican event?

They can't block traffic at a republican event?

They can't scream at republicans entering their event?

Really?
Weak sauce.

[HassleCat]

21. Specific tactics

I think she has particular ways of going about it, and that doesn't include yelling and waving signs from behind a police barricade. I can see her point on that one.

[erpowers]

32. I Call BS

I do not believe for a second that she could not have gotten to Senator Clinton. People have disrupted, or attempted to disrupt President Obama event on many occasions. At least once President Obama has had to deal with a protester at the White House. First Lady Obama had to deal with a protester at a private house event.

If she really wanted to protest at that Republican debate should could have protested. She could get to other Republican events if she wanted to get to those events. What she did has nothing to do with BLM. What she did has everything to do with this woman not liking Bernie Sanders' politics, wanting attention, and wanting someone to kiss her butt.

[merrily]

4. Because Hillary had a previous engagement on the same night as netroots, even though netroots

schedules a year in advance and the Arkansas Democratic Party wouldn't change its date for her. Oh wait.... Different issue. *Shifting gears*

Excellent question.

Let the racists' events proceed peacefully, but do your damnedest to silence the candidate with an outstanding civil rights record, in and out of Congress.

How does that make sense?

[Egnever]

25. Makes perfect sense if you think about it

Much easier to yell and scream at the soft targets. Your allies will tend to ignore your rudeness and agree on the issues. Doesn't take a lot of courage to come to a democratic board and rail against guns try it on a republican board and the response will be much different.

Many "cause warriors" don't have the intestinal fortitude to fight with the actual opposition. It is far easier to rant to your friends. You see it here every day.

[merrily]

29. Good points.

[Cosmic Kitten]

5. I'm confident the repubs would have them arrested

Then there's bail money, police records,
getting put on a watch list, etc etc.

The risk to reward is too high to address republicans
or Hillary, who has a Secret Service detail.

Picking soft targets, and getting 15 minutes of fame
is what we are seeing.

Bernie isn't responsible for police brutality
or racial bias in the criminal justice system.

[Cosmic Kitten]

9. Not only would repubs have them arrested...

their base would applaud them.

A republican event where BLM protesters were arrested
would give a HUGE popularity spike for that candidate!

It would actually HELP a republican candidate

[guillaumeb]

27. excellent point!! The GOP candidates get points for ignorance. eom

[Egnever]

26. My thoughts exactly

She basically said as much in her interview. Something along the lines of we picked on bernie because he was easy to get to. Not because he was an opponent to their cause but because the push back would be smaller.

[kwassa]

6. Well, this is only the second debate protest ....

and what they are trying to do is to hold Democrats, their traditional supporters, to a higher level of support.

Isn't this thread #8,203 on this subject, by the way?

[Cosmic Kitten]

11. I though BLM was about police murdering black people?

Now it's about influencing elections?

[kwassa]

22. No, it is about racial injustice in the US. Politicians can influence that.

[Vincardog]

7. Because they agenda 26 agitators want to force a wedge between the Democratic party and Black voters

Since that is the purpose of all the screaming children we should just put anyone defending the assaults on Bernie on ignore.

Then alert on them for a TOS violation

. If you are bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for our candidates during election season, we'll assume you are rooting for the other side.

[Kingofalldems]

28. I wish that was enforced.

[LanternWaste]

8. No doubt, the BLM attendees would be required to sign Loyalty Oaths prior to entering...

No doubt, the BLM attendees would be required to sign Loyalty Oaths prior to entering...

[John Poet]

10. There's nothing to be gained by BLM demonstrating

at some Republican event-- other than maybe
to "justify themselves" to us liberal white people
who keep asking
"why don't you demonstrate against Republicans"?

(and why should they have to justify themselves to US?)

Bernie Sander's fairly quick retooling of his campaign message to include their concerns shows they made the right choice, even if some of Bernie's supporters don't approve of the methods.
Republicans would just ignore them, or worse...


The latest demonstrators, however, don't appear representative of the rest of the BLM movement-- but seem to have appropriated that label for their own ends. Please do not blame BLM for their words and actions, it isn't fair.


When it comes time for the general election, I think there WILL be some BLM protests of the Republican candidate...

[Cosmic Kitten]

13. Their stated mission is to get attention

So YES, protesting republicans
will get the movement the attention it seeks!

The risk of arrest and jail is too high attacking republicans

[Brickbat]

12. What would they gain?

Everyone knows Republicans are racist.

[Cosmic Kitten]

14. They would gain more attention, isn't that their MO?

[Brickbat]

15. Protesting supposed allies can get more attention than protesting supposed enemies.

[Cosmic Kitten]

18. Says who? Do you really believe that?

In the history of protest I'm completely
unaware of protesting your own team?

Seriously, your believe what you wrote?

Next time you want a raise or better working conditions,
tell your union to protest or strike against themselves,
see how that works out

[kwassa]

23. The team is not really interested in this particular problem.

Sorry you don't understand that.

[HooptieWagon]

19. Is that why MLK protested in Birmiingham rather than San Francisco?

Did the temperance movement bust up churches or breweries?

[Doctor_J]

31. Calling supposed allies white supremecists is a good move then?

Ah, the illoogic grows hourly among the faithful

[HooptieWagon]

17. At least the crowd would cheer when called white supremacists.

And I'm sure the Palin button would be well received. She just needs a bit of "grooming".

[PoutrageFatigue]

20. Indeed....

...

[Doctor_J]

30. They also haven't protested the white house or the AG (either one)

or any republican congress's office. A pattern emerges.

[Chathamization]

33. A few dozen (including Cornel West) were just protesting the DOJ

Article here (worth following the individuals mentioned there on twitter if you're on there). There was a thread here about it; 4 recs (one of them mine) and 6 replies. There have been a lot of marches and work going on at the local level (we just had a march here, for example). BLM activists have also been helping Democratic candidates with their platforms, and supporting, for example, Sanders' Racial Justice platform and O'Malley's Criminal Justice Reform platform.

The media wants to focus on 2-3 people in Seattle and ignore the vast majority of the movement. I hope that people take a deeper look into what's happening; I think they'll find that the reality doesn't match the narrative that's being pushed.

[Paladin]

34. Donald Trump just threw down the gauntlet, BLM. He wants a fight with you.

Why don't you take him up on it?

[aikoaiko]

35. How would that help HRC?