Lots of handwringing by Joe Scar on Morning Joe today...

[CTyankee]

he and some panel members were bemoaning the fact that the repubs currently in the race haven't learned a damn thing after the last presidential election. Two examples Joe singled out were immigration (specifically birthright citizenship but also trying to throw out "illegals&quot and abortion (specifically, Huckabee's "no exception for rape, incest and life of the woman&quot and how that will go down with Republican women.

Duh, yeah Joe...

[pampango]

1. The GOP's own post-mortem on the 2012 election warned them NOT to do exactly what they ARE doing.

It is lovely to see them ignore their own advice and continue to shoot themselves in the foot.

[Hoppy]

5. The candidates' "sermons" amplify the beliefs of the rank and file Republicans.

Why is this a surprise?

[CTyankee]

17. I dunno...they just don't hear themselves as they go further and further over the edge...

the White HOuse is beyond their reach and will continue to be so until the inmates stop running the asylum...

[summerschild]

12. Doncha love a good GOP foot shooting in the morning?!

[jeff47]

24. The post-mortem neglected to consider their base

and what they have been feeding their base for decades.

[azureblue]

28. one trick ponies

That have only one shtick they use to hide their greed and lies.

[Mike Nelson]

2. He's also determined...

...the Hillary emails being looked at are, indeed, classified. Guess he's read them all! Now, we need to investigate how "Morning Joe" obtained the emails, right?

[CTyankee]

10. well, he's still talking about Benghazi so...

[jeff47]

25. How DARE he think the DNI Inspector General is not lying!! (nt)

[annabanana]

3. heh.. a PRE-postmortem on 2016

Who the hell knows what's going to happen?

[brewens]

4. They really are screwed. FOX "News" and all the hate radio perverts have finally done it.

They have the base so twisted now, that to get to the top in the primary, you have to go full whackjob! Then good luck toning it down and appealing to much of anyone else after you get the nomination. All that crazy talk is out there already, no taking it back.

[Fred Sanders]

13. I am convinced Bill Clinton talked Trump into running, just knowing Trump would remorselessly hold

up a mirror to the GOP for all the world to see clearly who they are and what the voters they are all pandering to also are....pure evil..yet be totally clueless he was being conned into doing exactly that....and then be totally in denial once he did get a clue. The perfect foil.

Clinton went to a Trump wedding, you say? Beside being an obvious HUGE scandal, so fucking what?

Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.....is not just an empty saying in politics.

Clinton, winner; Trump and the GOP, Fox and all of RW co-dependent media, losers.

[Whiskeytide]

44. Oh - The Donald is NOT losing ...

... by any stretch of the imagination. No matter how long he stays in the race, whether or not he gets the nomination, or even if he goes down in glorious flames in the general. He has people paying a lot of attention to him. He loves it. He will be making bank on this fiasco for years to come - and he knows it.

[Fred Sanders]

45. Then we can agree to differ entirely in our opinion..no problem.

[Whiskeytide]

46. Well - I didn't really disagree with you...

... I just noted that it's hard to say Trump is a "loser" when all he really wants is publicity and attention - and he'll get - is getting, actually - plenty of that regardless of the primary/general election results. The fact that he's trampling the repubs and the MSM underfoot??? He doesn't give a shit! "They shouldda stayed out from under my feet"

I've said before that Trump doesn't really want the job. It's too hard and requires to many hours. The Prez can't delegate things quite the way a mogul can, and when you do something stupid/rash/asinine (like Trump does every day), there are real world consequences besides a big lawyer fee bill and possibly another bankruptcy. I think he is smart enough to know that.

But I do think his poll number have even surprised him. I think he wanted to get in the race for some publicity ... and then - WTF? - he started winning, and winning BIG. And it's because he's acting like Trump. So he upped the Trump. MORE Trump! It's like cowbell now. And the show keeps getting more and more outrageous, and he continues to clobber the other "contestants". This is Trump's nirvana!

[Fred Sanders]

47. I hear you. My difference is that there will be real world consequences in America when you

are openly racist and bigoted and xenophobic and your name is plastered al over all your business's.

Golf at a Trump resort? Buy a Trump condo.. Not if the club paid me the green fees and the condo came with a helicopter.....and I am not alone at all in thinking exactly that.

"Trump" may be the cat's meow among the Troll hunting media and the insane GOP Fox brainwashed electorate of BizzaroWorld, but in the real world where so many real, not racists and bigoted and hateful folk live, that name is now mud.

[Enthusiast]

35. I like the term "full whackjob".

[Tommy2Tone]

6. Uh Joe, we hate you too!

[malaise]

7. Please proceed ReTHUGs

try to remove the 14th amendment

[Fred Sanders]

8. How much DO TV "political personalities" get paid anyway to pretend to completely abandon all reason?

[CTyankee]

9. actually the panel members were agreeing with Joe's contention...

the point was that it was the candidates in the primary who were saying all this stuff. My point is that Joe is just now finding out that these repubs are crazy?

[Fred Sanders]

11. Of course Joe did not just find out...it is all in the master script...it is all pretend ignorance

as well as pretend surprise...it is political fictional drama 7 days a week, minute by minute scripted political soap opera as tightly written and planned as As The World Turns.

When you get around to believing that is true, it is all a massive media scam, sure it takes all the fun out of the never ending storyline - which is why I think so many will never get around to believing that.

[CTyankee]

14. I think the pundits are just opportunists in it for the "glamor" and the bucks...

or they want their own show or they are just pathetic like David Brooks who has some mental "issues" IMO...

[Fred Sanders]

15. If it was not Joe or David or Megyn, it would be John and Don and Mary.....no shortage of B-grade

actors willing to read scripts and hone their acting skills by pretending to be journalists for money and fame.

Gotta say some of them are very good at their trade.

[Botany]

16. How about not having dead interns on your office floor?

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html

Then, on Friday, July 20th, the body of Lori Klausutis, 28, was found slumped next to a desk on the floor of Florida Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough's Fort Walton Beach office where Lori had served as a constituent services coordinator since May, 1999. Her body was found around 8:00 a.m. on Friday morning by a couple arriving for an appointment. She had been dead for some time. A second employee, who would have normally arrived for work at around the same time, was away on vacation. Police cordoned off the area for investigation, later announcing that there was no reason to suspect foul play, nor were there signs of suicide.

[CTyankee]

20. "Lori who???"

[merrily]

29. ? I had read she was found Saturday morning.

I always wondered why she stayed after hours on a Friday night.

[CTyankee]

21. I love that term...shower bitches...never heard that one before...

[Atman]

23. Ooh...that one is gonna draw out The Outrage Squads!

The prison rape outrage groups, the "bitch is demeaning" groups, the anti-shower groups.

[geek tragedy]

36. Derp. Jury results:

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:34 AM, and voted 6-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: insensitive
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: The reference to prison rape is undeniable. It's OTT.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Ugh, ugh. Ugh. I am not one who takes offense at all uses of the word hitch, but in this context, I sure do. And prison rape jokes are vile.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: shower bitches? alerter is right, prison rape is not funny. HIDE irisblue
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

The people who find prison rape jokes repulsive are not the ones who are the problem.

[cali]

37. I was juror 4. I'd sure like to know who juror 6 is.

[irisblue]

38. rape is not funny, even in prison pal

[Atman]

42. I'm not sure where I said rape is funny

I don't think rape is funny.

I just made a comment about the people currently infesting DU.

[LanternWaste]

39. I used to trivialize the valid and sincere concerns of other people too

I used to trivialize the valid and sincere concerns of other people too. It certainly allowed me to think myself much more clever than was actually warranted.

But sooner or later, we all grow up into adults and are forced realize our petulant behaviors merely advertises those biases we publicly deny.

However, I'm quite certain that your sentiment is quite sincere, and that you are heavily invested in maintaining prison rape memes for whatever reason you justify to yourself, if not to others.

[Atman]

43. You wish to suck the soul out of our society/community

I totally agree that we all must be cognizant of the meaning of the remarks we make. YOU TOO. It is actually possible to be a caring, loving human being and still make jokes. That's why we call them "jokes" and not "The Bible."

I don't want anyone to be subjected to prison rape. I don't want anyone of any race, gender, whatever, to be subjected to rape. But I am a writer and I like words. "Bitch" is not a problem with me. It means so many different things, I don't like a subset of DU telling me I can't use the term because someone doesn't like it.

[One of the 99]

31. But that is what they are.

Both have been spinning and apologizing for Trump for weeks.

[66 dmhlt]

19. Pretty much when Joe has a "Sad" - then I've got a "Glad"!

[CTyankee]

22. The GOP went off the spool a long time ago...Joe is "shocked and saddened" to learn it...

[MillennialDem]

26. The conservative mindset does not lead to self criticism. They're always 100% right on everything -

including their tactics.

This is why you never see a conservative comedian other than one who stays out of politics or his political routine is "hurr hurr, libruls are stoopid!"

How often do you hear liberal comedians self deprecate the democratic party / liberals for being chickenshit on negotiating with republicans, being overly offended/PC, etc?

[fadedrose]

27. I watch New Day on CNN

to avoid Joe and the gang. Am much happier...

[Iggo]

30. Her name was Lori Klausutis.

Fuck you, Joe.

[SpankMe]

32. R's will change their tune next year

Republican mother fuckers are all radical, now, in order to whip up their base and get primary voters at the base engaged. That rhetoric will tone down after they have a nominee in order to draw votes from independent voters. If that "moderation" gets them in office, then they'll revert back to being hardliners and go for their extreme agenda.

[Enthusiast]

33. Joe, you didn't really think Huckabee was a serious canididate , did you?

Thanks for the report, CTyankee. I will not turn on MSNBC because they enable the lying propaganda.

[freshwest]

34. Sure, Morning Joe:

[BigDemVoter]

40. Good Ole Moanin Ho. . . .

He's only wringing his hands because he's worried it will cause them a loss. . . . If their wacko ideas were popular, he'd be right there with them. He has NO integrity. Is that a surprise?

[JHB]

41. Wrong, Joe! They learned all the important lessons:

1) Don't let anyone accuse you of compromising on "principles"
2) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
3) Rewards for running: Fox gigs, speaking gigs, radio gigs, etc.

[wheniwasincongress]

48. Did Joe lie and claim

that most Americans are against abortion? (he always says this when the matter comes up.)

[CTyankee]

49. he was not too subtle during the Planned Parenthood dust up.

It's clear he hates PP and the work it does to prevent abortion in the first place. It was disgusting for several days during that episode.