New CNN poll-->@ScottWalker Falls to 4th place

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New poll-->@ScottWalker Falls to 4th place http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/251338-gop-trump-holds-on-to-spot-atop-gop-field#.VdMjXnvMSc4.twitter … #Walker16 #p2 @Wisdems @wisGop #uniteblue


August 18, 2015, 07:43 am
Poll: Trump strengthens lead atop GOP field

By Jesse Byrnes



Trump is supported by about a quarter of registered Republicans and GOP-leaning independents, 24 percent, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (13 percent) and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson (9 percent) in the CNN/ORC International poll.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (8 percent), Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (8 percent) and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (6 percent) follow, with Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, businesswoman Carly Fiorina and Ohio Gov. John Kasich tied at 5 percent.

Trump picked up 6 points from a similar poll in July, the most of any GOP candidate. Carson and Fiorina saw increases of 5 and 4 percentage points, respectively.

Those figures come a day after another national poll from Fox News also found Trump with a double-digit lead, followed by Carson and Bush. That poll, however, found Cruz and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee among the top five candidate. They place 7th and 10th, respectively, in the CNN poll..............

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1. Jeb Bush and Scott Walker are facing steep challenges in states they need. And it has little to do

he Upshot ‏@UpshotNYT 7m7 minutes ago

Jeb Bush and Scott Walker are facing steep challenges in states they need. And it has little to do with Donald Trump. http://nyti.ms/1UQD7um
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The Most Important Story in the G.O.P. Race Isn’t About Donald Trump

AUG. 18, 2015



Donald Trump is dominating the news media and the Internet. He is leading in the polls. But even as journalists scour those surveys for signs of whether his surge will last, an important story with the potential to decide the race is being overlooked.

The Aug. 6 debate marked the beginning of a new and more volatile phase of the contest: a wave of boomlets. The candidates who can surge — and stay at the top — could define the race. It represents a big test for the candidates who led the polls for much of the first half of the year, Jeb Bush and Scott Walker. Already, it’s one Mr. Walker is struggling to pass.
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Carly Fiorina has made the largest leap in national polls, and Marco Rubio, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz appear to have made gains as well. But where the story really matters is in Iowa and New Hampshire, and in the so-called invisible primary for elite support. These three contests nearly amount to separate campaigns, with Iowa and New Hampshire something like two brackets in a tournament, and with the invisible primary bestowing the resources and credibility that help candidates reach the finals.

Mr. Bush and Mr. Walker appear to have lost ground in all of them......................

[stevenleser]

2. Two things now about Jeb. 1st, as I have been saying since long before this process started, the

vast majority of the grass roots of the GOP do not want him and did not want him from the very beginning. Even when he supposedly was in "the lead" the lead he was polling the teens or so. That's not anywhere near what anyone would expect as a bare minimum from the performance of a presumptive front runner.

Now that Jeb's debate performance was so weak, and I've likened him/it to a wet noodle, you have the anti-Jeb bias from the very beginning augmented by a very weak debate performance. He would need some sort of major miracle to win the nomination now IMHO.

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3. The major miracle may be all the cash he has for campaign ads.

[stevenleser]

4. The problem with that is that people really dislike him. Imagine seeing a ton of commercials for

someone you can't stand. That won't make it better.

Ads work if you aren't sure about someone, or maybe even slightly leaning away.

The GOP base is really turned off by him at this point.

[n2doc]

5. If Rick Scott can win, JE Busn can win

Really, the GOP has a lot of experience getting people to vote for truly loathsome pols. And the ability (Kansas, Cough cough Wisconsin, Cough) to monkey with the vote enough to throw a close race.

[stevenleser]

6. Rick Scott wasn't trying to fend off 16 other similar sounding people who aren't disliked

When facing off against the other party, sure, some folks will just vote the party line just because they don't want someone from the party opposite in power. If Jeb got the nomination somehow, he would be the beneficiary of that.

But we're not there. We're at the stage where he is going to be facing 16 other folks, most of whom are better liked than him who have similar viewpoints.

[WI_DEM]

7. As a Wisconsinite I'd love it if Snotty was an also ran...his ratings are plummeting in WI, too.