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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:06 AM Aug 2015

The U.S. electorate overwhelmingly doesn't like candidates with even a whiff

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of intellectualism. The vast majority of voters want "smart" but hate "eggheads". They want smart they can relate to. Intellectually driven people in our culture are considered out of touch no matter how well they actually connect with people. And intellectuals have a history of being associated with communism. That may seem outdated and quaint, but communism is still a big boogeyman here.

In part, this rich vein of anti-intellectual sentiment, explains the popularity of trump. People think, "he just like me, if I was rich."

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Nitram

(22,803 posts)
2. Right on the money.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 10:41 AM
Aug 2015

Other problems with eggheads:

1. Speak in gobbledygook (use difficult words like "nuance" and "metaphor&quot .

2. Think years of intensive study of a particular topic means they know more about that topic than the average person.

3. Sound like they think they are better than everyone else.

4. Read too many books, newspapers, etc. - don't know what's going on in the real world.

5. Don't place love of country above all else.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
3. don't want to get in an argument, but
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:08 AM
Aug 2015

I can't think of any facts to back up this seemingly reasonable sounding statement. Jimmy Carter over Gerald Ford (who was unfairly depicted as a bumbling idiot)? Obama (head of Harvard Law Review) over McCain? You have to go all the way back to Adlai Stevenson, who was depicted as an egghead, to support your thesis but even then, the guy who was chosen as the leader of the Free World's army in WW2 could hardly be called an intellectual lightweight.
While there is a strain of anti-intellectualism in America, I think most people want the smartest person in the room to be the one in charge.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
9. Reagan was a unique bullshitter who would have beaten anyone
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:21 AM
Aug 2015

Gore beat Bush but then lost 5-4 to the Supreme Court. Neither of these show a trend, although I admit Bush's election is hard to explain in any manner.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
16. Reagan lost to the bumbler Ford in 1976 for the Repub nomination, so RR's
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:32 AM
Aug 2015

bullshit talents were not as all-powerful as you'd have them. Of course, back in 1976, the Republicans had not yet gone full-tilt batshit crazy. That trend started in 1981 with RR's inauguration and we are now seeing its apotheosis in The Donald.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
11. Carter was a nuclear scientist
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:23 AM
Aug 2015

Ford, who actually graduated pretty high in his law class at U of Michigan, was widely depicted as a buffoon.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. yes, there are exceptions, but are you actually going.to argue
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:24 AM
Aug 2015

that there isn't a strong anti-intellectual tradition in this country?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. certainly that sentiment is dominant on the Republican side.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:30 AM
Aug 2015

George W. Bush dumbed down his persona in order to win the Republican nomination.

The real story of Trump is, imo, what David Frum called the "conservative entertainment complex"--Fox News, Breitbart, Limbaugh. He's the logical extension of that.


SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
14. Obama did win a second time
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:25 AM
Aug 2015

and beat a guy who was known to be rich, but was criticized because he did it with inherited wealth and showed no particular intellectual capacity.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
17. The US electorate doesn't like candidates they don't agree with
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:34 AM
Aug 2015

Smart, egghead smart, relatable, robot, communist, whatever, if you agree with them, you'll like them, justify and rationalize anything about them, and might even vote for them. If you don't agree with them, then they're probably the worst person in the world, and you'll justify and rationalize anything against them.

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